(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a self-image the size of Texas?

Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

(11-28-2016 12:16 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:12 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  https://twitter.com/joshryantaylor1/stat...3312624640

Joshua Ryan Taylor
‏@joshryantaylor1
#WVU and #danaholgorsen have agreed to an extension, this I can confirm. The details I can not....yet. #collegefootball #mountaineers

Scratch him off the list

Lol its a fake account.

(11-28-2016 12:16 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:12 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  https://twitter.com/joshryantaylor1/stat...3312624640

Joshua Ryan Taylor
‏@joshryantaylor1
#WVU and #danaholgorsen have agreed to an extension, this I can confirm. The details I can not....yet. #collegefootball #mountaineers

Scratch him off the list

(11-28-2016 01:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:16 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:12 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  https://twitter.com/joshryantaylor1/stat...3312624640

Joshua Ryan Taylor
‏@joshryantaylor1
#WVU and #danaholgorsen have agreed to an extension, this I can confirm. The details I can not....yet. #collegefootball #mountaineers

Scratch him off the list

Don't know why you attacking me. I was just respomding to the tweet

(11-28-2016 01:32 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:31 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:16 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 12:12 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:  https://twitter.com/joshryantaylor1/stat...3312624640

Joshua Ryan Taylor
‏@joshryantaylor1
#WVU and #danaholgorsen have agreed to an extension, this I can confirm. The details I can not....yet. #collegefootball #mountaineers

Scratch him off the list

Don't know why you attacking me. I was just respomding to the tweet

Because its beh...

(11-27-2016 05:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-27-2016 05:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  why in the world would Holgorsen leave WVA for UH? lol

Same for Leach.

Only way either do that is if they are about to get canned (see Tommy Tuberville at Texas Tech)


That's comical.

Supposedly the WVU AD and Dana hate each other.

But Dana is so likeable...

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a self-image the size of Texas?

Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

I believe Houston has more people than the state of Worst Virginia.

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a self-image the size of Texas?

Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

(11-28-2016 12:25 AM)M1T4 Wrote:  Hire Major Applewhite

Grand slam

Then hide your coeds, unless of course he wins big, then line 'em up.

(11-28-2016 01:40 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(11-27-2016 05:42 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(11-27-2016 05:35 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  why in the world would Holgorsen leave WVA for UH? lol

Same for Leach.

Only way either do that is if they are about to get canned (see Tommy Tuberville at Texas Tech)


That's comical.

Supposedly the WVU AD and Dana hate each other.

But Dana is so likeable...

Plus he has trouble feeding them at wvu

In a seriousness do we have to hear about every possible candidate for a middling school like Houston. Is there a Houston board?

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a self-image the size of Texas?

Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

Nonsense.

Listening to Mike and Mike talk about Herman today, they said something I'd like to ask UH fans about:

"UH has multiple 4 and 5 star kids that never would have committed to UH without Tom Herman, and now they are stuck while he moves on to UT. Specifically Ed Oliver."

My perception was that the Herman hire helped, but you guys were on those local kids long before Herman got there. While he is undoubtedly a great recruiter, you guys have a history of landing some pretty high profile guys no matter who is coaching. Agreed?

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a
Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

(11-28-2016 01:49 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  Listening to Mike and Mike talk about Herman today, they said something I'd like to ask UH fans about:

"UH has multiple 4 and 5 star kids that never would have committed to UH without Tom Herman, and now they are stuck while he moves on to UT. Specifically Ed Oliver."

My perception was that the Herman hire helped, but you guys were on those local kids long before Herman got there. While he is undoubtedly a great recruiter, you guys have a history of landing some pretty high profile guys no matter who is coaching. Agreed?

Herman's best players were Levine recruits (Ward, Farrow, Elandon Roberts, Jackson III, Taylor, etc)... including his most important player, Marcus Oliver - brother of Ed, who was a strong lure for the 5* DT.

Our current highly-rated commits just created the hashtag "#Ban17ofBrothers" to show that they didn't commit because of Herman... but because of Houston.

Mike and Mike are fools.

(11-28-2016 01:49 PM)Carolina Stang Wrote:  Listening to Mike and Mike talk about Herman today, they said something I'd like to ask UH fans about:

"UH has multiple 4 and 5 star kids that never would have committed to UH without Tom Herman, and now they are stuck while he moves on to UT. Specifically Ed Oliver."

My perception was that the Herman hire helped, but you guys were on those local kids long before Herman got there. While he is undoubtedly a great recruiter, you guys have a history of landing some pretty high profile guys no matter who is coaching. Agreed?

Deontay Greenberry was a 4 or 5 star.

(11-28-2016 01:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a
Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

This should help...
What sort of jobs have successful WV coaches left for? Michigan, Florida State
What sort of jobs have successful UH coaches left for? TAMU, UT, Baylor

This shows a) you relative place in the TX football pecking order and b) that WV coaches don't historically leave WV for non-marquee schools.

(11-28-2016 02:00 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a
Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

This should help...
What sort of jobs have successful WV coaches left for? Michigan, Florida State
What sort of jobs have successful UH coaches left for? TAMU, UT, Baylor

This shows a) you relative place in the TX football pecking order and b) that WV coaches don't historically leave WV for non-marquee schools.

Briles leaving for Baylor was a decade ago. We paid Briles less than $1 mil/year and played in Robertson Stadium at the time. We weren't the same program then as we are now.

I'd put TAMU and UT up against FSU and Michigan, so I fail to see your point there other than that WVU to Houston would be a lateral move. If Dana simply doesn't want to be in West Virginia anymore (I'm not saying that is the case), he could see it as an upgrade.

Remind me, are you that 1 Navy fan that now hates Houston because we "forced" you to sit in the same section that every other visiting school's fans sit in? If so, that is precious.

Did you catch the tOSU/Michigan game on Saturday? Did you see where Michigan fans were "forced" to sit?

(11-28-2016 02:00 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 10:46 AM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  I'm interested to see how this shakes out. Is UH really as attractive of a program/location as y'all make it out to be or do you just have a
Personally, I can't see a P5 coach voluntarily leaving to play "4th fiddle" within the state in a G5 conf.

Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

This should help...
What sort of jobs have successful WV coaches left for? Michigan, Florida State
What sort of jobs have successful UH coaches left for? TAMU, UT, Baylor

This shows a) you relative place in the TX football pecking order and b) that WV coaches don't historically leave WV for non-marquee schools.

Dana has a long history with the city of Houston beyond his term as OC at the University of Houston. His most prized pupil, Case Keenum, just had his number retired.
Like all coaching moves, this situation involves a lot of "fit" principles that go beyond a rudimentary concept like "pecking order"..
It's cute you're so passionate about it though. Perhaps you should email Dana.

(11-28-2016 02:05 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 02:00 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

This should help...
What sort of jobs have successful WV coaches left for? Michigan, Florida State
What sort of jobs have successful UH coaches left for? TAMU, UT, Baylor

This shows a) you relative place in the TX football pecking order and b) that WV coaches don't historically leave WV for non-marquee schools.

Dana has a long history with the city of Houston beyond his term as OC at the University of Houston. His most prized pupil, Case Keenum, just had his number retired.
Like all coaching moves, this situation involves a lot of "fit" principles that go beyond a rudimentary concept like "pecking order"..
It's cute you're so passionate about it though. Perhaps you should email Dana.

Like I said at the beginning, it'll be interesting to see if your program is as great as you think or if this is just a case of Texas sized self-worth.

We saw how the "we're better a better job than UT" and the "we are ready to win a bidding war" turned out.

(11-28-2016 02:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 02:00 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:51 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:42 PM)USNA9t8 Wrote:  

(11-28-2016 01:16 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  Herman wasn't playing 4th fiddle. He's been a rockstar.

Greg Ward was on SI. Houston has actually had their fair share of the spotlight. G5 has nothing to do with it. Texans back a winner.

Holgorsen would get more recognition at Houston than he's gotten at WV. Is that even a controversial statement?

He was playing 4th fiddle (and I'm being generous because it may self-image the size of Texas?
actually be 5th fiddle) because UH is not UT, TAMU, TT, Green Baylor, or Purple Baylor.

In my experience, the Texas college football pecking order goes something like this...
1) UT
1a) TAMU
3) Regional perfence Baylor/Tech/TCU
4) Baylor/Tech/TCU choice that didn't apply above
5) UH
6) Rice, San Marcus, and others

No. I think WVs coach would only voluntarily leave WV for a substantially bigger job at a more prestigious P5 program (Michigan, Texas, USC, ND type jobs).

It's fine that you think that way...
If you want to compare television viewership numbers, I'm open to having my opinion changed.

This should help...
What sort of jobs have successful WV coaches left for? Michigan, Florida State
What sort of jobs have successful UH coaches left for? TAMU, UT, Baylor

This shows a) you relative place in the TX football pecking order and b) that WV coaches don't historically leave WV for non-marquee schools.

Briles leaving for Baylor was a decade ago. We paid Briles less than $1 mil/year and played in Robertson Stadium at the time. We weren't the same program then as we are now.

I'd put TAMU and UT up against FSU and Michigan, so I fail to see your point there other than that WVU to Houston would be a lateral move. If Dana simply doesn't want to be in West Virginia anymore (I'm not saying that is the case), he could see it as an upgrade.

Remind me, are you that 1 Navy fan that now hates Houston because we "forced" you to sit in the same section that every other visiting school's fans sit in? If so, that is precious.

Did you catch the tOSU/Michigan game on Saturday? Did you see where Michigan fans were "forced" to sit?

Seating section?!? Who cares about seating sections?