RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:28 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: Dumb stuff like this and the fact that people are dumb is the reason Donald Trump is going to be president.
FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:19 PM)bigzit Wrote: You are an idiot! I have it on pretty good authority, they knew Strong was black when they hired him and paid him millions as he went under. 500 and lost to Kansas!!!
Moron....
Hahaha.... No way UT knew Charlie was black when they hired him!!!!! Great post.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:11 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:00 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: Talk about race baiting. ECU freakin hired a black dude to replace Ruff and Strong went 16-21 at a school that is #1 in revenue.
Then this guy steps further into the mud by then claiming the hiring of a black guy at ECU was to avoid looking racist. Holy cow.
I grew up in the north, went to UMass undergrad, raised in a very liberal family then worked in Boston for 5 years. Went to grad school in the deep south and still live in the deep south. I work in finance with about 80% republicans. What I am saying is that I have had a very diversified political experience and it blows my mind how nutty people on the far left and far right can be. It's either everything is racist or nothing is racist. Crazy stuff.
Look dude, I was just posting an article. I never claimed that ECU hired a black guy at ECU to avoid looking racist. I said that they "possibly" did. This is a debate based on an article and not necessarily my personal opinion.
Learn basic reading comprehension before you spout your drivel next time. Anyway, it amazes me how absolutely whiny white men get when the topic of race comes up. Boo hoo. Get over it.
Your original premise was so absurd with Strong that any other thought on this matter is useless.
Don't give me this passive aggressive crap regarding race, you have no clue. You can't just make a statement on Texas without addressing the fact that they are a multi billion dollar entity with a coach posting 16-21 (12-15). So what's the excuse for Oregon looking at firing Helfrich for going 37-16 (24-12)?
Oh for reference, I am on the board of a group that provides homes to african american families in tough areas and my wife teaches in an all black school. But I am just a whiny white guy, right? Like I said, far left/right people are nutty, not only in their thought process but their statements and arguments. (Now I know what comes next in your fruity mind, I am racist cause I have to show how I am not racist, I know how this works, deal with you fruit cakes all the time).
So now I am far left? That is comedic! Also, it is so noble of your and your wife to offer help to the black man and then essentially demand credit for doing so here. I don't think that that makes you racist, but it certainly does reek of privilege and superiority due to you having to even bring it up. Those who are REALLY helping people usually don't require a pat on the back or an "Atta boy?" But, seeing as you seem to have a fragile ego, I will bite. Atta boy!
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:21 PM)PaulDel2 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
Talk about stereotyping. So if a school in a southern state fires an African American coach is because of race? Dude have you ever been south of Manhattan? And I don't mean Manhattan Kansas.
The recruiting Ruff did between 2012 and 2016 is probably the biggest reason why he was fired. Do you notice how many did not make it to school or didn't last?
(This post was last modified: 11-29-2016 04:08 PM by Rowdydowdy.)
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:28 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: Dumb stuff like this and the fact that people are dumb is the reason Donald Trump is going to be president.
FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
I hate Trump but OP's point is dumb
My "point" was a link to an article (I am not the author) which stated that Texas boosters never liked Charlie Strong because he is black. Did they have reason to fire him regardless? Maybe (probably after the Kansas loss). However, I stand by my assertion after reading that article that Strong and Ruff likely would have had a few more games in them if they weren't so dark.
Sorry if my opinion interferes with your normal thought process. Either way, it isn't a strong opinion on my end. I don't really have a horse in this race as I am not black or a head coach. LOL.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:06 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:11 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:00 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: Talk about race baiting. ECU freakin hired a black dude to replace Ruff and Strong went 16-21 at a school that is #1 in revenue.
Then this guy steps further into the mud by then claiming the hiring of a black guy at ECU was to avoid looking racist. Holy cow.
I grew up in the north, went to UMass undergrad, raised in a very liberal family then worked in Boston for 5 years. Went to grad school in the deep south and still live in the deep south. I work in finance with about 80% republicans. What I am saying is that I have had a very diversified political experience and it blows my mind how nutty people on the far left and far right can be. It's either everything is racist or nothing is racist. Crazy stuff.
Look dude, I was just posting an article. I never claimed that ECU hired a black guy at ECU to avoid looking racist. I said that they "possibly" did. This is a debate based on an article and not necessarily my personal opinion.
Learn basic reading comprehension before you spout your drivel next time. Anyway, it amazes me how absolutely whiny white men get when the topic of race comes up. Boo hoo. Get over it.
Your original premise was so absurd with Strong that any other thought on this matter is useless.
Don't give me this passive aggressive crap regarding race, you have no clue. You can't just make a statement on Texas without addressing the fact that they are a multi billion dollar entity with a coach posting 16-21 (12-15). So what's the excuse for Oregon looking at firing Helfrich for going 37-16 (24-12)?
Oh for reference, I am on the board of a group that provides homes to african american families in tough areas and my wife teaches in an all black school. But I am just a whiny white guy, right? Like I said, far left/right people are nutty, not only in their thought process but their statements and arguments. (Now I know what comes next in your fruity mind, I am racist cause I have to show how I am not racist, I know how this works, deal with you fruit cakes all the time).
So now I am far left? That is comedic! Also, it is so noble of your and your wife to offer help to the black man and then essentially demand credit for doing so here. I don't think that that makes you racist, but it certainly does reek of privilege and superiority due to you having to even bring it up. Those who are REALLY helping people usually don't require a pat on the back or an "Atta boy?" But, seeing as you seem to have a fragile ego, I will bite. Atta boy!
There it is.....the patented comeback. Was not looking for a pat on the back (but using the term "demand" was particularly enjoyable), was responding to your equally predictable statement that white men (you don't know I am white btw) get bent out of shape when talking race as clearly I am comfortable with anyone based on the small history I tried to show. It's damned if you do damned if you don't with you nut jobs. You will figure out anyway to slant things to your ingrained POV.
(This post was last modified: 11-29-2016 04:30 PM by wavefan12.)
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:12 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:28 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: Dumb stuff like this and the fact that people are dumb is the reason Donald Trump is going to be president.
FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
I hate Trump but OP's point is dumb
My "point" was a link to an article (I am not the author) which stated that Texas boosters never liked Charlie Strong because he is black. Did they have reason to fire him regardless? Maybe (probably after the Kansas loss). However, I stand by my assertion after reading that article that Strong and Ruff likely would have had a few more games in them if they weren't so dark.
Sorry if my opinion interferes with your normal thought process. Either way, it isn't a strong opinion on my end. I don't really have a horse in this race as I am not black or a head coach. LOL.
You baited a race conversation. Then tried to make it political at the same time.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:21 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:06 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:11 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:00 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: Talk about race baiting. ECU freakin hired a black dude to replace Ruff and Strong went 16-21 at a school that is #1 in revenue.
Then this guy steps further into the mud by then claiming the hiring of a black guy at ECU was to avoid looking racist. Holy cow.
I grew up in the north, went to UMass undergrad, raised in a very liberal family then worked in Boston for 5 years. Went to grad school in the deep south and still live in the deep south. I work in finance with about 80% republicans. What I am saying is that I have had a very diversified political experience and it blows my mind how nutty people on the far left and far right can be. It's either everything is racist or nothing is racist. Crazy stuff.
Look dude, I was just posting an article. I never claimed that ECU hired a black guy at ECU to avoid looking racist. I said that they "possibly" did. This is a debate based on an article and not necessarily my personal opinion.
Learn basic reading comprehension before you spout your drivel next time. Anyway, it amazes me how absolutely whiny white men get when the topic of race comes up. Boo hoo. Get over it.
Your original premise was so absurd with Strong that any other thought on this matter is useless.
Don't give me this passive aggressive crap regarding race, you have no clue. You can't just make a statement on Texas without addressing the fact that they are a multi billion dollar entity with a coach posting 16-21 (12-15). So what's the excuse for Oregon looking at firing Helfrich for going 37-16 (24-12)?
Oh for reference, I am on the board of a group that provides homes to african american families in tough areas and my wife teaches in an all black school. But I am just a whiny white guy, right? Like I said, far left/right people are nutty, not only in their thought process but their statements and arguments. (Now I know what comes next in your fruity mind, I am racist cause I have to show how I am not racist, I know how this works, deal with you fruit cakes all the time).
So now I am far left? That is comedic! Also, it is so noble of your and your wife to offer help to the black man and then essentially demand credit for doing so here. I don't think that that makes you racist, but it certainly does reek of privilege and superiority due to you having to even bring it up. Those who are REALLY helping people usually don't require a pat on the back or an "Atta boy?" But, seeing as you seem to have a fragile ego, I will bite. Atta boy!
There it is.....the patented comeback. Was not looking for a pat on the back (but using the term "demand" was particularly enjoyable), was responding to your equally predictable statement that white men (you don't know I am white btw) get bent out of shape when talking race as clearly I am comfortable with anyone based on the small history I tried to show. It's damned if you do damned if you don't with you nut jobs. You will figure out anyway to slant things to your ingrained POV.
Odds are high that you are white. LOL. Are you?
So, I am a nut job because I posted a link to an article that stated that a guy "may" not have gotten a fair shake by Texas boosters due to his race? When trying to figure out who is the radical nut job here, you may want to locate the nearest mirror. I am still not sure why race being a "possibility" threatens you so much.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:12 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:28 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote: Dumb stuff like this and the fact that people are dumb is the reason Donald Trump is going to be president.
FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
I hate Trump but OP's point is dumb
My "point" was a link to an article (I am not the author) which stated that Texas boosters never liked Charlie Strong because he is black. Did they have reason to fire him regardless? Maybe (probably after the Kansas loss). However, I stand by my assertion after reading that article that Strong and Ruff likely would have had a few more games in them if they weren't so dark.
Sorry if my opinion interferes with your normal thought process. Either way, it isn't a strong opinion on my end. I don't really have a horse in this race as I am not black or a head coach. LOL.
See that's what you don't get because you are so biased and set that what you believe is true. People can in fact think your premise is absurd and actually not be the least bit racist. You should really step back and think about what I just said and how it applies to yourself. I see this everyday in my discussions on race. It almost always involves people on the further side of both political parties.
(This post was last modified: 11-29-2016 04:41 PM by wavefan12.)
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:18 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:25 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:12 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
I hate Trump but OP's point is dumb
My "point" was a link to an article (I am not the author) which stated that Texas boosters never liked Charlie Strong because he is black. Did they have reason to fire him regardless? Maybe (probably after the Kansas loss). However, I stand by my assertion after reading that article that Strong and Ruff likely would have had a few more games in them if they weren't so dark.
Sorry if my opinion interferes with your normal thought process. Either way, it isn't a strong opinion on my end. I don't really have a horse in this race as I am not black or a head coach. LOL.
You baited a race conversation. Then tried to make it political at the same time.
Truth be told, I did bait the race conversation out of curiosity just to gauge the mentality of the board. However, I didn't try and make it political. Those who pointed out my signature and the nut job UMass/Tulane guy who called me a liberal made it political.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 03:14 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:56 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:48 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Couple of references to this topic:
Tyrone Willingham was fired from Notre Dame in 2004, after 21-15 tenure and a 6-5 season. When he was dismissed, the media immediately pointed to race as the deciding factor as to why he was dismissed (despite the high national expectations at a school like Notre Dame). Willingham immediately gets hired at Washington and proceeds to go 11-37 in four years, including a golden 0-12 in his final year.
Joker Phillips had the same situation in 2012, after posting a 2-10 record at Kentucky (and 13-24 record in three years). Not once did he have a winning record, but that didn't stop the race discussion from popping up.
How about Sylvester Croom at Mississippi State? First SEC African American Head Coach in history. He goes 21-38 in five seasons, including just one winning season and losing 25% of SEC games. When he was dismissed, race was brought up.
Darrell Hazell was just fired at Purdue, after going 9-33 in four years - including just three wins in B1G play. I saw at least one news story that referenced race in his dismissal.
Turner Gill was fired just after two years at Kansas, but he went 5-19 in those two years there, and he went 1-16 in Big 12 play. (And he never beat Texas!). Again, race is used.
Bottom line, it an easy accusation to blame race on why a head coach gets canned. It gets clicks on the internet, it gets people talking and, most of all, it gets the public divided and riled up. Coaches get fired for wins and losses, period. If you don't win, or more importantly, meet the fans expectations at your school, you won't have your job for long.
To say that Charlie Strong was fired over race is absurd. He just lost to a Kansas football team that hadn't beat Texas in over 75 years. Texas is a power football program, and they didn't once play like it under his tenure.
Willingham posted the exact same 21-15 record as Charlie Weis, who succeeded him, in their first 36 games. Weis was rewarded with a contract extension. That was BS. I think that Croom resigned, right?
I don't know if it is so much about race but if you are "one of us" the boosters might give you an extra year to prove yourself. If you aren't, then you won't. .ie Will Muschamp, Derek Dooley, Houston Nutt,
Charlie Weis received his extension while reaching two consecutive BCS bowl game appearances, and because Notre Dame thought that he would bolt to the NFL. Everyone in hindsight thinks that was a terrible move, but - even in today's standards - if you get a great coach you want to lock them up for a long time.
Willingham never went to a BCS Bowl with Notre Dame, and had two very underperforming seasons to close out his tenure. Heck, Willingham by the end of his tenure at Notre Dame (not even including Washington) only went to a bowl game in 5 of his 10 seasons as a head coach.
One coach reeked of averageness, while the other's stock was soaring. It's no wonder why one received a massive extension and the other didn't.
No. Charlie Weis received his contract extension 7 games into coaching at Notre Dame. 7 games. Willingham had a better record the first year. After 3 years, they had the same record. http://www.espn.com/college-football/new...id=2207478
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
So racist boosters were responsible for all the play calling, recruiting, hiring of all asst coaching staff...that lead to a 12-15 Big 12 conf record and a 16-21 overall record?
Then those same racist boosters forced the UT Players/Coaches to lose to lowly Kansas...something that had never happened in most of our lifetimes.
Dang...now that is POWER!
PS. A Martian (with super natural powers) could have been coaching Texas and if the Martian's team lost to Kansas, he would have been fired too. I laughed at did UT have reasons to fire Strong...and after the loss to Kansas...you (or someone else) said "probably". LOL!! Probably???
(This post was last modified: 11-29-2016 04:56 PM by KnightLight.)
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:37 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:12 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:03 PM)M1T4 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:32 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:29 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: FIFY
First you call people racist, and now you call millions of Americans dumb. You continue to prove my point. You falsely accuse people and put them down and they're probably not going to like you, and they definitely won't vote for you.
I hate Trump but OP's point is dumb
My "point" was a link to an article (I am not the author) which stated that Texas boosters never liked Charlie Strong because he is black. Did they have reason to fire him regardless? Maybe (probably after the Kansas loss). However, I stand by my assertion after reading that article that Strong and Ruff likely would have had a few more games in them if they weren't so dark.
Sorry if my opinion interferes with your normal thought process. Either way, it isn't a strong opinion on my end. I don't really have a horse in this race as I am not black or a head coach. LOL.
See that's what you don't get because you are so biased and set that what you believe is true. People can in fact think your premise is absurd and actually not be the least bit racist. You should really step back and think about what I just said and how it applies to yourself. I see this everyday in my discussions on race. It almost always involves people on the further side of both political parties.
No offense, but you don't seem all that bright to me when it comes to debate. Once again, your reading comprehension is terrible. I never said he was "racist" for not agreeing with my premise. I said that him calling my point dumb apparently "interfered with his thought process." This was meant to mean that it made him have to think about something that he didn't want to think about. Nowhere did I call him "racist" - not sure where you are getting that.
Your comments show YOUR bias as you have the pressing need to paint me as a liberal and a nut job when I already told you that I don't have a horse in this race. You are the one who is biased and set that what you believe is true. Pot meet kettle.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:43 PM)KnightLight Wrote:
(11-29-2016 02:09 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: I think that this article nails it correctly when the author states that Texas boosters were never behind Charlie Strong because he was black. Ruffin McNeill can probably relate as most of us would agree that his firing at ECU was not fully warranted (and he would almost have certainly been given an additional season to prove himself if he were white). The fact that there is truth behind this racial bias at the head coaching level is totally messed up.
So racist boosters were responsible for all the play calling, recruiting, hiring of all asst coaching staff...that lead to a 12-15 Big 12 conf record and a 16-21 overall record?
Then those same racist boosters forced the UT Players/Coaches to lose to lowly Kansas...something that had never happened in most of our lifetimes.
Dang...now that is POWER!
It is hard to argue against his firing based on the Kansas loss. However, the article mentioned that the boosters never liked Strong from the start. It didn't really defend his current results.
Once again, does anybody read anymore? As I said, I have no horse in this race. I just ask that people here read before commenting. Is that too much to ask? (Apparently it is.)
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:37 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:21 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:06 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:11 PM)UConnHusky Wrote: Look dude, I was just posting an article. I never claimed that ECU hired a black guy at ECU to avoid looking racist. I said that they "possibly" did. This is a debate based on an article and not necessarily my personal opinion.
Learn basic reading comprehension before you spout your drivel next time. Anyway, it amazes me how absolutely whiny white men get when the topic of race comes up. Boo hoo. Get over it.
Your original premise was so absurd with Strong that any other thought on this matter is useless.
Don't give me this passive aggressive crap regarding race, you have no clue. You can't just make a statement on Texas without addressing the fact that they are a multi billion dollar entity with a coach posting 16-21 (12-15). So what's the excuse for Oregon looking at firing Helfrich for going 37-16 (24-12)?
Oh for reference, I am on the board of a group that provides homes to african american families in tough areas and my wife teaches in an all black school. But I am just a whiny white guy, right? Like I said, far left/right people are nutty, not only in their thought process but their statements and arguments. (Now I know what comes next in your fruity mind, I am racist cause I have to show how I am not racist, I know how this works, deal with you fruit cakes all the time).
So now I am far left? That is comedic! Also, it is so noble of your and your wife to offer help to the black man and then essentially demand credit for doing so here. I don't think that that makes you racist, but it certainly does reek of privilege and superiority due to you having to even bring it up. Those who are REALLY helping people usually don't require a pat on the back or an "Atta boy?" But, seeing as you seem to have a fragile ego, I will bite. Atta boy!
There it is.....the patented comeback. Was not looking for a pat on the back (but using the term "demand" was particularly enjoyable), was responding to your equally predictable statement that white men (you don't know I am white btw) get bent out of shape when talking race as clearly I am comfortable with anyone based on the small history I tried to show. It's damned if you do damned if you don't with you nut jobs. You will figure out anyway to slant things to your ingrained POV.
Odds are high that you are white. LOL. Are you?
So, I am a nut job because I posted a link to an article that stated that a guy "may" not have gotten a fair shake by Texas boosters due to his race? When trying to figure out who is the radical nut job here, you may want to locate the nearest mirror. I am still not sure why race being a "possibility" threatens you so much.
Nah, you're just a nutjob because you think if Charlie Strong were white he'd get a 4th season.
No coach at Texas will get a 4th season if the team performed as bad as Strong's. He posted the worst win/loss record of any Texas coach in history and the team looked like it was getting worse with time.
RE: Charlie Strong and Ruffin McNeill - different school, same problem (skin color)
(11-29-2016 04:55 PM)Insane_Baboon Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:37 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:21 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:
(11-29-2016 04:06 PM)UConnHusky Wrote:
(11-29-2016 03:25 PM)wavefan12 Wrote: Your original premise was so absurd with Strong that any other thought on this matter is useless.
Don't give me this passive aggressive crap regarding race, you have no clue. You can't just make a statement on Texas without addressing the fact that they are a multi billion dollar entity with a coach posting 16-21 (12-15). So what's the excuse for Oregon looking at firing Helfrich for going 37-16 (24-12)?
Oh for reference, I am on the board of a group that provides homes to african american families in tough areas and my wife teaches in an all black school. But I am just a whiny white guy, right? Like I said, far left/right people are nutty, not only in their thought process but their statements and arguments. (Now I know what comes next in your fruity mind, I am racist cause I have to show how I am not racist, I know how this works, deal with you fruit cakes all the time).
So now I am far left? That is comedic! Also, it is so noble of your and your wife to offer help to the black man and then essentially demand credit for doing so here. I don't think that that makes you racist, but it certainly does reek of privilege and superiority due to you having to even bring it up. Those who are REALLY helping people usually don't require a pat on the back or an "Atta boy?" But, seeing as you seem to have a fragile ego, I will bite. Atta boy!
There it is.....the patented comeback. Was not looking for a pat on the back (but using the term "demand" was particularly enjoyable), was responding to your equally predictable statement that white men (you don't know I am white btw) get bent out of shape when talking race as clearly I am comfortable with anyone based on the small history I tried to show. It's damned if you do damned if you don't with you nut jobs. You will figure out anyway to slant things to your ingrained POV.
Odds are high that you are white. LOL. Are you?
So, I am a nut job because I posted a link to an article that stated that a guy "may" not have gotten a fair shake by Texas boosters due to his race? When trying to figure out who is the radical nut job here, you may want to locate the nearest mirror. I am still not sure why race being a "possibility" threatens you so much.
Nah, you're just a nutjob because you think if Charlie Strong were white he'd get a 4th season.
No coach at Texas will get a 4th season if the team performed as bad as Strong's. He posted the worst win/loss record of any Texas coach in history and the team looked like it was getting worse with time.
Nah, I don't think that. Even a white guy would probably have gotten canned. They just may have thought about it for one more week before pulling the trigger. Either way, I dislike the Longhorns and hope that they continue to circle the drain. However, Tom Herman will likely bring them back to prominence. The dude is a coaching stud (plus the players love his soft soft kisses). LOL