The simple fact that all of you clowns are here proves how envious you are of the AAC.

(12-18-2016 10:43 PM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  bwahahahaha....

Think your win yesterday will give you a shot at a Cusa invite?

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:48 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lets be honest...every single one of you little G4ers would JUMP for JOY if the AAC extended you an invite.

That's the cold hard truth of a G4er

no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

(12-18-2016 10:05 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:51 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:47 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:41 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:32 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  The Massey composite rankings say it all.

Also what rtaylor said.

So then do you all agree that WMU is BETTER than EVERY AAC team? The BEST G5 in the country? And by a long shot? That's what Massey says. Lets hear it boys......

Yes. I also believe your conference schedule is easy and that you wouldn't have finished undefeated in the American, but your team is having a special year. I just hope you guys aren't the reincarnation of the 2012 NIU team. You guys would definitely have been in our upper third and competed for the conference championship.

....so, in other words, you don't think the Massey is actually accurate. .....unless it fits the AAC agenda.

No I said you guys were better this year, just that you play in an easy conference. If you played in AAC you would inevitably have to play some tough road games so I don't think you would go undefeated. Think about like this. BSU imo was the best team in the MWC but they played Wyoming on the road and lost by 2 points. Therefore they didn't get the chance to play for their championship. Imo the MAC didn't have another noteworthy team. Do you disagree?

You guys don't have the best resume but you won out and thats hard to do. I also look at the margin of your victories and see a team that was clearly much better than the weak competition it played. As long as you guys play tough in the Cotton bowl than my perception of y'all isn't going to change. If y'all get smacked down then that would throw everything for a curve.

Ultimately I base my assessment of teams in what they do on the field but the composite rankings are nice to use as a reference.

Why do you have to qualify your response with respect to WMU being better than every team in the AAC, when you dont do the same regarding "conference strength"? Massey figures strength of schedule in its calculations, which are essentially a compilation of many computer, or objective rankings. If you can say that the AAC is the best G5 conference, and even better than the B12, because Massey says so, why cant you simply say WMU is better (actually much better) than every AAC team, based on your same reasoning? Why must you add all your garbage about weak schedule or suggest that WMU wouldn't win the AAC outright?

This is what you AAC folks do. you jump all over the logic wagon, and end up sounding as silly as you are.

I need G4 bug spray.

(12-19-2016 01:40 AM)airtroop Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:05 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:51 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:47 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:41 PM)brovol Wrote:  So then do you all agree that WMU is BETTER than EVERY AAC team? The BEST G5 in the country? And by a long shot? That's what Massey says. Lets hear it boys......

Yes. I also believe your conference schedule is easy and that you wouldn't have finished undefeated in the American, but your team is having a special year. I just hope you guys aren't the reincarnation of the 2012 NIU team. You guys would definitely have been in our upper third and competed for the conference championship.

....so, in other words, you don't think the Massey is actually accurate. .....unless it fits the AAC agenda.

No I said you guys were better this year, just that you play in an easy conference. If you played in AAC you would inevitably have to play some tough road games so I don't think you would go undefeated. Think about like this. BSU imo was the best team in the MWC but they played Wyoming on the road and lost by 2 points. Therefore they didn't get the chance to play for their championship. Imo the MAC didn't have another noteworthy team. Do you disagree?

You guys don't have the best resume but you won out and thats hard to do. I also look at the margin of your victories and see a team that was clearly much better than the weak competition it played. As long as you guys play tough in the Cotton bowl than my perception of y'all isn't going to change. If y'all get smacked down then that would throw everything for a curve.

Ultimately I base my assessment of teams in what they do on the field but the composite rankings are nice to use as a reference.

The NFC East (a.k.a., the "NFC Least") has been considered the "easiest conference" in the NFL of late. Before that, we had the NFC Central ("the black and blue conference". Funny thing is, both of those conferences have won a great deal of national championships (a.k.a., the Super Bowl). Funny how that works, eh?

Awesome but we're talking about this year. This year outside of WMU the MAC has no one else. Toledo is the next best thing at 9-4. Our conference has about 5-6 Toledos. I'm really not stayin anything unreasonable. I understand that the power scale moves but this isn't a discussion about where will be in 5 years. It's a discussion about this year.

The sunbelt, cusa, and Mac would be better off in FCS. The budgets and crowds are similar.

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:05 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:51 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:47 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:41 PM)brovol Wrote:  So then do you all agree that WMU is BETTER than EVERY AAC team? The BEST G5 in the country? And by a long shot? That's what Massey says. Lets hear it boys......

Yes. I also believe your conference schedule is easy and that you wouldn't have finished undefeated in the American, but your team is having a special year. I just hope you guys aren't the reincarnation of the 2012 NIU team. You guys would definitely have been in our upper third and competed for the conference championship.

....so, in other words, you don't think the Massey is actually accurate. .....unless it fits the AAC agenda.

No I said you guys were better this year, just that you play in an easy conference. If you played in AAC you would inevitably have to play some tough road games so I don't think you would go undefeated. Think about like this. BSU imo was the best team in the MWC but they played Wyoming on the road and lost by 2 points. Therefore they didn't get the chance to play for their championship. Imo the MAC didn't have another noteworthy team. Do you disagree?

You guys don't have the best resume but you won out and thats hard to do. I also look at the margin of your victories and see a team that was clearly much better than the weak competition it played. As long as you guys play tough in the Cotton bowl than my perception of y'all isn't going to change. If y'all get smacked down then that would throw everything for a curve.

Ultimately I base my assessment of teams in what they do on the field but the composite rankings are nice to use as a reference.

Why do you have to qualify your response with respect to WMU being better than every team in the AAC, when you dont do the same regarding "conference strength"? Massey figures strength of schedule in its calculations, which are essentially a compilation of many computer, or objective rankings. If you can say that the AAC is the best G5 conference, and even better than the B12, because Massey says so, why cant you simply say WMU is better (actually much better) than every AAC team, based on your same reasoning? Why must you add all your garbage about weak schedule or suggest that WMU wouldn't win the AAC outright?

This is what you AAC folks do. you jump all over the logic wagon, and end up sounding as silly as you are.

Why? Because we're discussing football and I'm giving you my thoughts. The strength of your conference matters when talking about how good a team is, because it makes up 70% of your schedule. All I'm saying is I feel like you guys have an easier path to 13-0 than you would if you played in the AAC. It's fine to disagree, you can even tell me why. That's how a discussion works. I have no problem with you coming to our board to talk football but if the only reason you're here is to get a rise out of us, then just leave. No need to create bad blood.

(12-19-2016 10:50 AM)EDLUVAR Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:48 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lets be honest...every single one of you little G4ers would JUMP for JOY if the AAC extended you an invite.

Not all of us. Well most of the mwc said no thanks and bsu and sdsu actually backed out because of loss of power status and tv $ but I'm sure cusa, Mac, and sun belt teams would love to join up.

Every single school in CUSA, Sun Belch and MAC plus UMASS would join the AAC. San Diego St out of the MWC would probably join if they could convince one or two or their MWC brothers to go with them. Does any one from Maction, CUSA or the Belch disagree with that?
Cheers!

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:48 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lets be honest...every single one of you little G4ers would JUMP for JOY if the AAC extended you an invite.

That's the cold hard truth of a G4er

no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

I warned y'all. They aren't right in the head. Insane in the membrane. Cousin Eddies

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:05 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:51 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:47 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:41 PM)brovol Wrote:  So then do you all agree that WMU is BETTER than EVERY AAC team? The BEST G5 in the country? And by a long shot? That's what Massey says. Lets hear it boys......

Yes. I also believe your conference schedule is easy and that you wouldn't have finished undefeated in the American, but your team is having a special year. I just hope you guys aren't the reincarnation of the 2012 NIU team. You guys would definitely have been in our upper third and competed for the conference championship.

....so, in other words, you don't think the Massey is actually accurate. .....unless it fits the AAC agenda.

No I said you guys were better this year, just that you play in an easy conference. If you played in AAC you would inevitably have to play some tough road games so I don't think you would go undefeated. Think about like this. BSU imo was the best team in the MWC but they played Wyoming on the road and lost by 2 points. Therefore they didn't get the chance to play for their championship. Imo the MAC didn't have another noteworthy team. Do you disagree?

You guys don't have the best resume but you won out and thats hard to do. I also look at the margin of your victories and see a team that was clearly much better than the weak competition it played. As long as you guys play tough in the Cotton bowl than my perception of y'all isn't going to change. If y'all get smacked down then that would throw everything for a curve.

Ultimately I base my assessment of teams in what they do on the field but the composite rankings are nice to use as a reference.

Why do you have to qualify your response with respect to WMU being better than every team in the AAC, when you dont do the same regarding "conference strength"? Massey figures strength of schedule in its calculations, which are essentially a compilation of many computer, or objective rankings. If you can say that the AAC is the best G5 conference, and even better than the B12, because Massey says so, why cant you simply say WMU is better (actually much better) than every AAC team, based on your same reasoning? Why must you add all your garbage about weak schedule or suggest that WMU wouldn't win the AAC outright?

This is what you AAC folks do. you jump all over the logic wagon, and end up sounding as silly as you are.

The 0 in the L column causes the models to vastly overvalue WMU. If we played Texas State 13 weeks in a row and went 13-0, we'd have a higher Massey rating than we do from going 9-4 against our actual schedule, even though our 9-4 (with wins over OU and Louisville) is obviously a stronger resume than 13 straight wins over Texas State.

Massey does about as good of a job as is possible, but that doesn't mean there aren't anomalies. It is an imperfect science.

(12-19-2016 11:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  That's the cold hard truth of a G4er

no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

I warned y'all. They aren't right in the head. Insane in the membrane. Cousin Eddies

LOL

(12-19-2016 10:27 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Does anybody else laugh on the inside when they hear "Arkansas State" ?

Probably not a good year for a cincy fan to make this kind of comment...I mean...you did lose to UCF about a month or so ago...Arkansas State didn't have much problem with them...just sayin'

(12-19-2016 12:38 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 10:27 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Does anybody else laugh on the inside when they hear "Arkansas State" ?

Probably not a good year for a cincy fan to make this kind of comment...I mean...you did lose to UCF about a month or so ago...Arkansas State didn't have much problem with them...just sayin'

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/12/americas-...-2016.html

I like the part where they talk about Arkansas' strengths

(12-19-2016 12:27 PM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 11:38 AM)shere khan Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

I warned y'all. They aren't right in the head. Insane in the membrane. Cousin Eddies

LOL

Hey...when do you think you'll get your own stadium? seeing you guys only fill about a third of the Eagles stadium kind of looks bad for a team of such stature...

(12-19-2016 12:38 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 10:27 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Does anybody else laugh on the inside when they hear "Arkansas State" ?

Probably not a good year for a cincy fan to make this kind of comment...I mean...you did lose to UCF about a month or so ago...Arkansas State didn't have much problem with them...just sayin'

Probably would have gone undefeated in that crap conference you play in. Just sayin.....

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:48 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lets be honest...every single one of you little G4ers would JUMP for JOY if the AAC extended you an invite.

That's the cold hard truth of a G4er

no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

Wait---the Sunbelt Champion was matched up against the 7th place AAC team?

(12-19-2016 01:02 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 12:38 PM)kb325 Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 10:27 AM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  Does anybody else laugh on the inside when they hear "Arkansas State" ?

Probably not a good year for a cincy fan to make this kind of comment...I mean...you did lose to UCF about a month or so ago...Arkansas State didn't have much problem with them...just sayin'

Probably would have gone undefeated in that crap conference you play in. Just sayin.....

You'd probably go 4 and 4 in conference at best...I'm thinking you could not come close to beating stAte, Troy, UL, App State...maybe wait until next year sparky...

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:05 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:51 PM)brovol Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:47 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 09:41 PM)brovol Wrote:  So then do you all agree that WMU is BETTER than EVERY AAC team? The BEST G5 in the country? And by a long shot? That's what Massey says. Lets hear it boys......

Yes. I also believe your conference schedule is easy and that you wouldn't have finished undefeated in the American, but your team is having a special year. I just hope you guys aren't the reincarnation of the 2012 NIU team. You guys would definitely have been in our upper third and competed for the conference championship.

....so, in other words, you don't think the Massey is actually accurate. .....unless it fits the AAC agenda.

No I said you guys were better this year, just that you play in an easy conference. If you played in AAC you would inevitably have to play some tough road games so I don't think you would go undefeated. Think about like this. BSU imo was the best team in the MWC but they played Wyoming on the road and lost by 2 points. Therefore they didn't get the chance to play for their championship. Imo the MAC didn't have another noteworthy team. Do you disagree?

You guys don't have the best resume but you won out and thats hard to do. I also look at the margin of your victories and see a team that was clearly much better than the weak competition it played. As long as you guys play tough in the Cotton bowl than my perception of y'all isn't going to change. If y'all get smacked down then that would throw everything for a curve.

Ultimately I base my assessment of teams in what they do on the field but the composite rankings are nice to use as a reference.

Why do you have to qualify your response with respect to WMU being better than every team in the AAC, when you dont do the same regarding "conference strength"? Massey figures strength of schedule in its calculations, which are essentially a compilation of many computer, or objective rankings. If you can say that the AAC is the best G5 conference, and even better than the B12, because Massey says so, why cant you simply say WMU is better (actually much better) than every AAC team, based on your same reasoning? Why must you add all your garbage about weak schedule or suggest that WMU wouldn't win the AAC outright?

This is what you AAC folks do. you jump all over the logic wagon, and end up sounding as silly as you are.

Cuz its not. WMU is a mirage. Its beaten what---2 teams with a winning record? And it had to claw and scratch for dear life in the CCG against a 5-loss team that dropped a game to Texas State. WMU is going to lose by 30 on New Years.

(12-19-2016 01:04 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 11:06 AM)TforTempleU Wrote:  

(12-19-2016 01:07 AM)StAteRedWolf Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:57 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  

(12-18-2016 10:52 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  That's the cold hard truth of a G4er

no doubt...they come in here talking crap and every one of them would be thrilled to get an AAC invite.

We make more money, we have more fans in attendance (by a long shot), we have better tv exposure, we have more ranked teams...of course they would jump at an invite.

That's why is high comedy to see them on our board talking crap...smh

There is no denying most of the G5 teams would like to be in the AAC from their current conference. But the FACT is.....even were they to get an invite and join they would STILL be in what the NCAA calls a G5 conference. No matter how much you AAC quacks want to think otherwise and call it a P6.

Ark St. beats our 7th place team in a meaningless bowl game and then their fans come here to run their mouths. Happy for you though, glad you guys won your super bowl.

Wait---the Sunbelt Champion was matched up against the 7th place AAC team?

And our 8th place team beat SDSU...what was your score this past Saturday???