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OT More Racist Vandalism at Rice
Some Moron tagged Willy in the Quad.
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"Swastika found at Rice University -- third vandalism case in a month"

Way to go, kids.

http://www.chron.com/local/education/cam...909625.php
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(02-05-2017 06:31 PM)WoodlandsOwl Wrote:  Some Moron tagged Willy in the Quad.

Agree with your post, but confused about the title of it.

The Swastika counts as racist vandalism I suppose, but per the article also had the name Trump next to it, so it seems as likely to me that it was, or could be interpreted as, an insult to/protest of, Trump.

On the Berlin Wall section, I thought the graffiti was "Trump 2016" and "Aloha"? Vandalism? Definitely! Racist? Need a lot more that "Trump" and "Aloha"

I certainly am not condoning the graffiti/vandalism, but the thread topic "More Racist Vandalism" might be more accurate as either:

"More Vandalism at Rice", or

"Swastika chalked onto Rice founder's statue, along with a reference to Trump"

I would be interested to get the viewpoint of the perpetrator, but I doubt that will happen.

The protest posters hung in Anderson Hall (in the photo gallery that accompanied the Chronicle article) did not rise in my mind to the level of racism (obviously, based on the message), or graffiti (a poster, not a defacement of a permanent structure or piece of art (or a rail car for that matter)).

The three propaganda posters also referenced, and placed at various spots around the campus perimeter (I'm assuming at points along the jogging trail by the description in the article) WERE racist in the sense they were touting a white supremacist organization, however, as they were posters they were not really graffiti, and were vandalism only at the same level of a garage sale poster or a poster promoting a band playing at a local venue, placed somewhere where a poster is prohibited.
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As Dean Hutchinson referred to in his communication over the weekend, "Rice has experienced a number of acts of vandalism recently, including last night the drawing of a swastika and words on the plinth of the statue of William Marsh Rice. I have had it with this behavior."

Regardless of the Trump "tie-in" if you will, this was the second anti-Semitic happening to show up on campus in just over a month - the other within a book at the Fondren Library - so "more racist vandalism at Rice" is accurate assessment.
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(02-07-2017 05:53 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  As Dean Hutchinson referred to in his communication over the weekend, "Rice has experienced a number of acts of vandalism recently, including last night the drawing of a swastika and words on the plinth of the statue of William Marsh Rice. I have had it with this behavior."

Regardless of the Trump "tie-in" if you will, this was the second anti-Semitic happening to show up on campus in just over a month - the other within a book at the Fondren Library - so "more racist vandalism at Rice" is accurate assessment.

Just sayin' that there are two ways you could interpret a graffiti Swastika drawn by Trump's name . . . . . .
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It's not anti anything. Spray paint a swastika and you rile people up and get media attention.
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(02-07-2017 10:08 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  It's not anti anything. Spray paint a swastika and you rile people up and get media attention.
Think the article said the swastika was in chalk.

and putting the name "Trump" next to a swastika means one thing if you're a neo-Nazi, and another if you're an anti-Trump demonstrator.

It can be taken as a repudiation of Trump, as well as an attempt to tie Trump to an ideology held by the vandal.
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A swastika is a swastika no matter how you spin it

Considering there has been a uptick locally and nationally of anti Semitic activities, plus this being the second such Swastika activity at Rice in weeks (previous one had nothing to do with Trump), I think it is hard to make light of situation. Doing so would be a mistake, one many agencies impacted by hate issues directly or by association as of late are not willing to take.
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The key is that it doesn't matter what the person's motivations were with the swastika and Trump combo, and it doesn't need to be debated. No matter who/what this person was trying to support, their actions were classless and would only further divide our small community.

Hutch's remarks were spot on and he provided a very clear and articulate reason as to why it doesn't matter. If you haven't read his Facebook post, I urge you to do so: https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/story.php...6460575445
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(02-08-2017 08:35 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  The key is that it doesn't matter what the person's motivations were with the swastika and Trump combo, and it doesn't need to be debated. No matter who/what this person was trying to support, their actions were classless and would only further divide our small community.

Hutch's remarks were spot on and he provided a very clear and articulate reason as to why it doesn't matter. If you haven't read his Facebook post, I urge you to do so: https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/story.php...6460575445

From the Facebook post it seems anyone found participating in this Stupidity gets expelled from the University. I'd like to see criminal charges filed as well.
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Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.
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(02-08-2017 12:06 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.

Depends on what you're drawing and what you're drawing it on.
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(02-08-2017 12:17 PM)JSA Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:06 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.

Depends on what you're drawing and what you're drawing it on.

It's as serious a crime as burning someone else's United States flag without their consent.
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(02-08-2017 12:17 PM)JSA Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:06 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.

Depends on what you're drawing and what you're drawing it on.

Yes, it does.

I exaggerated a little. In this case it's equivalent to a speeding ticket (Class C Misdemeanor).
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(02-08-2017 12:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:17 PM)JSA Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:06 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.

Depends on what you're drawing and what you're drawing it on.

It's as serious a crime as burning someone else's United States flag without their consent.

Depends on the value of the flag, but yeah.
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(02-08-2017 12:34 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:28 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:17 PM)JSA Wrote:  
(02-08-2017 12:06 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Drawing on something with a piece of chalk is almost as serious a crime as speeding.

Depends on what you're drawing and what you're drawing it on.

It's as serious a crime as burning someone else's United States flag without their consent.

Depends on the value of the flag, but yeah.
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Maybe there are leftist on campus or people on campus spreading hate about the President and this is just the students reaction who are pro government since the University does not do anything about the government haters.
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(02-08-2017 12:59 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  Maybe there are leftist on campus or people on campus spreading hate about the President and this is just the students reaction who are pro government since the University does not do anything about the government haters.

It's not a crime to hate the government.
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(02-08-2017 12:59 PM)OldOwl Wrote:  Maybe there are leftist on campus or people on campus spreading hate about the President and this is just the students reaction who are pro government since the University does not do anything about the government haters.

Leftist. Is that what YOU call anyone who remembers the horror of the Holocaust now? Leftist? So I suppose the men who liberated the concentration camps were all Leftists. Interesting theory, brother. I guess I'm a Leftist then. What are you?
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