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Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Ben Carson: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ben-...be1467634f
"Ben Carson made his debut as secretary of Housing and Urban Development Monday by telling agency employees about the virtues of the “can-do” American society. Carson said this value system was best exemplified by slaves, whom he characterized as immigrants who came to the United States with very little and worked very hard.
“That’s what America is about,” Carson said. “A land of dreams and opportunity. There were other immigrants who came here in the bottom of slave ships, worked even longer, even harder for less. But they too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land.”
What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
It was his turn among the Cabinet members and Trump staffers to make an incredibly stupid comment and take off some heat on the boss.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:22 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: It was his turn among the Cabinet members and Trump staffers to make an incredibly stupid comment and take off some heat on the boss.
LOL......
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:32 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
Excuse me? Thats because it is offensive. I didn't post it because its connected to his administration. If so I would of said look at what Ben Carson who was picked by Trump said. That's the problem with you cons. Always trying to twist something around. And I will complain about what the hell i want to complain about, starting with this nonsense this man just stated. What amazes me is how you can even open your mouth to say what you just said. You're irrelevant for even trying to turn this post into something that its not. How about you wake your a** up and walk out of this thread. If you don't like it then get the hell on!
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Putting on my Trumper cap (similar fit to the Obama cap, but with weirder embroidery):
So what? One of his cabinet members teetered upon absurdity again. I realize this and know that it's going to happen over and over. Luckily, we as Trump supporters are in a position to never have to acknowledge it. We'll just call you whiners and move on to a more tasteful thread that praises him.
Taking it off:
I don't find much offense in this. It's just another loopy statement by a loopy person. If he says that the Pyramids were for storing grain and that Joseph was in charge of that, then this is a statement that I would expect him to make. We all know a person like him. Smart as a whip, but you really hang around him to hear the impending dumb statement. Complete a surgery in the morning and talk about the earth being flat in the afternoon.
Those slaves on ships, while they DID eventually start to hope that the future generations could live better than them through the groundwork they were laying, were on their second transaction and were about to go through at least one more in the coming weeks. I think lumping them in with other immigrants is dumb.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Are just a as offended by the African's which sold their brethren into slavery for some Hooch?
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 10:39 PM)South Carolina Duke Wrote: Are just a as offended by the African's which sold their brethren into slavery for some Hooch?
They weren't brethren. It might be the most diverse continent in the world and this was before colonialism. They had no reason to care. Guns and supplies in exchange for enemies that you have almost zero in common with was a good deal. They ended up paying dearly for it at the end of the day when they were in turn made slaves on their own land.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:32 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
Excuse me? Thats because it is offensive. I didn't post it because its connected to his administration. If so I would of said look at what Ben Carson who was picked by Trump said. That's the problem with you cons. Always trying to twist something around. And I will complain about what the hell i want to complain about, starting with this nonsense this man just stated. What amazes me is how you can even open your mouth to say what you just said. You're irrelevant for even trying to turn this post into something that its not. How about you wake your a** up and walk out of this thread. If you don't like it then get the hell on!
Flex those keyboard muscles, son. Flex 'em!!
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
He should've said, slaves in the americas were much better off than they were prior as slaves in Africa, and left it at that.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 11:18 PM)DexterDevil Wrote: He should've said, slaves in the americas were much better off than they were prior as slaves in Africa, and left it at that.
I agree. Or just not bring slaves in it.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
What a ******* stupid statement. Period.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 11:44 PM)fsquid Wrote: What a ******* stupid statement. Period.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: I didn't realize slaves came to America on their own freewill.
They didn't. The problem here is the idea that "immigration" refers ONLY to a voluntary/autonomous act on the part of an individual person. I don't understand where that idea came from, but I disagree with it.
Quote:And worked hard for less? I didn't realize they got paid.
Some slave-owners would use cash-payments or other material rewards as a way to try and incentivize more productivity. That is not to say that the payments reflected market-value.
Quote:Is a slave an immigrant?
It depends if they spend their whole life in one country, or not.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Ben Carson is raciss.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Obviously...It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know how stupid that comment was.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
Looks like he corrected himself via social media. He's a smart man but don't let the guy ad lib or you get facepaln comments like that.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-06-2017 09:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:32 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
Excuse me? Thats because it is offensive. I didn't post it because its connected to his administration. If so I would of said look at what Ben Carson who was picked by Trump said. That's the problem with you cons. Always trying to twist something around. And I will complain about what the hell i want to complain about, starting with this nonsense this man just stated. What amazes me is how you can even open your mouth to say what you just said. You're irrelevant for even trying to turn this post into something that its not. How about you wake your a** up and walk out of this thread. If you don't like it then get the hell on!
You sound angry. And that's the problem with progressives. You are desperately floundering around for something to make you angry. I suggest you look up the definition of immigrant. Slaves, whether they were African or Irish, fall into the definition.
What the comment really reminded me of was a speech some guy gave, "I have a dream..."
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-07-2017 08:08 AM)bullet Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:32 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
Excuse me? Thats because it is offensive. I didn't post it because its connected to his administration. If so I would of said look at what Ben Carson who was picked by Trump said. That's the problem with you cons. Always trying to twist something around. And I will complain about what the hell i want to complain about, starting with this nonsense this man just stated. What amazes me is how you can even open your mouth to say what you just said. You're irrelevant for even trying to turn this post into something that its not. How about you wake your a** up and walk out of this thread. If you don't like it then get the hell on!
You sound angry. And that's the problem with progressives. You are desperately floundering around for something to make you angry. I suggest you look up the definition of immigrant. Slaves, whether they were African or Irish, fall into the definition.
What the comment really reminded me of was a speech some guy gave, "I have a dream..."
And that's the problem with cons, always assuming. You assume I am angry at what Ben said but if you would take the time to read my post, you will clearly see I am upset with the poster and his response on what I said about Bens comment.
You see I don't have to go floundering around to find things to make me angry when it is presented to me on a silver plate. And if his speech reminds you of Dr. Martin Luther King then i highly recommend you reread both speeches for a better understanding.
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RE: Slaves Were Immigrants Who Came Here And Worked Really Hard ‘For Less
(03-07-2017 08:44 AM)pcm0103 Wrote: (03-07-2017 08:08 AM)bullet Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:39 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:32 PM)LeFlâneur Wrote: (03-06-2017 09:15 PM)pcm0103 Wrote: What kind of nonsense is this? I don't know where to begin. I did't realize slaves came to America on their on freewill. And worked hard for less? I didn't realized they got paid. Is a slave an immigrant?
What amazes me is how the progressives will find anything connected to the Trump administration as offensive. Damn, you people just can't find enough things to complain about.
Really, you lost. You're irrelevant. You need to wake the **** up.
Excuse me? Thats because it is offensive. I didn't post it because its connected to his administration. If so I would of said look at what Ben Carson who was picked by Trump said. That's the problem with you cons. Always trying to twist something around. And I will complain about what the hell i want to complain about, starting with this nonsense this man just stated. What amazes me is how you can even open your mouth to say what you just said. You're irrelevant for even trying to turn this post into something that its not. How about you wake your a** up and walk out of this thread. If you don't like it then get the hell on!
You sound angry. And that's the problem with progressives. You are desperately floundering around for something to make you angry. I suggest you look up the definition of immigrant. Slaves, whether they were African or Irish, fall into the definition.
What the comment really reminded me of was a speech some guy gave, "I have a dream..."
And that's the problem with cons, always assuming. You assume I am angry at what Ben said but if you would take the time to read my post, you will clearly see I am upset with the poster and his response on what I said about Bens comment.
You see I don't have to go floundering around to find things to make me angry when it is presented to me on a silver plate. And if his speech reminds you of Dr. Martin Luther King then i highly recommend you reread both speeches for a better understanding.
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You are using ****. You WERE angry.
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