I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment. At least our current system has checks and balances. All Trump has is....checks from the Mercers, the Russians, and the Chinese. And Trump is really unbalanced.

(05-19-2017 09:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment. At least our current system has checks and balances. All Trump has is....checks from the Mercers, the Russians, and the Chinese. And Trump is really unbalanced.

As I said, I know the liberals won't get it.

(05-19-2017 10:02 AM)banker Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment. At least our current system has checks and balances. All Trump has is....checks from the Mercers, the Russians, and the Chinese. And Trump is really unbalanced.

As I said, I know the liberals won't get it.

Oh we get it. You guys can't convince a majority of the American people of anything (or even a pluarality) so you guys want to remove democracy and the rule of law from our system.

(05-19-2017 10:06 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 10:02 AM)banker Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment. At least our current system has checks and balances. All Trump has is....checks from the Mercers, the Russians, and the Chinese. And Trump is really unbalanced.

As I said, I know the liberals won't get it.

Oh we get it. You guys can't convince a majority of the American people of anything (or even a pluarality) so you guys want to remove democracy and the rule of law from our system.

and once we do that, we are going after the alphabet community first....

GOOD!

Trump is begging for an excuse to step down. He accomplished more than he could ever dream of. His name will always be in the history books as an elected POTUS. He won the election, and they can never take that back.

And he's done a tremendous service for his family's brand.

Plus he hates the job, and how much more difficult it is than he thought it would be.


Mr. Trump, do the right thing: STEP DOWN

(05-19-2017 09:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT, that must be why Republicans, Democrats, news media and intelligence community hates him.

(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, because you guys want to remove any accountability for your supreme leader....and we rightly point out that the advocacy of removing the democratic process enabled Chavez/Maduro and Hitler.

What specific crimes, including what specific acts, are you accusing Trump of? You don't ever say, because this is all bullshite.

But please, go on, continue with your comparison of the democratically elected President of the United States to Socialists and Nazi, and see how many new votes liberals pick-up in the next election.

(05-19-2017 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  But so long as we are talking about elections.....it is YOUR side that wants to make voting more difficult.

Difficult? I don't want to make it difficult. I want to make it impossible

Impossible for illegal aliens to vote in any election for any position for any party. Sorry if that rubs liberals the wrong way but I am pretty sure that a popular opinion among Americans of all stripes.

A--*******--MEN!!!

(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, because you guys want to remove any accountability for your supreme leader....and we rightly point out that the advocacy of removing the democratic process enabled Chavez/Maduro and Hitler.

What specific crimes, including what specific acts, are you accusing Trump of? You don't ever say, because this is all bullshite.

But please, go on, continue with your comparison of the democratically elected President of the United States to Socialists and Nazi, and see how many new votes liberals pick-up in the next election.

(05-19-2017 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  But so long as we are talking about elections.....it is YOUR side that wants to make voting more difficult.

Difficult? I don't want to make it difficult. I want to make it impossible

Impossible for illegal aliens to vote in any election for any position for any party. Sorry if that rubs liberals the wrong way but I am pretty sure that a popular opinion among Americans of all stripes.

+++

(05-19-2017 10:09 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:53 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:44 AM)banker Wrote:  I know any liberals here won't get this at all, but they should be on the side of Trump. What we have here is the destruction of our form of government happening before our eyes. You have the establishment politicians on both sides (and more significantly, the people who pull their strings), working to make sure an outsider looks as foolish as possible in order to be able to say to the American people that you should never elect anyone but one of us insiders.

It's this ruling elite mentality that both liberals and conservatives profess to hate.

Uh, Trump is uber-establishment.

RIIIIIIIIIGHT, that must be why Republicans, Democrats, news media and intelligence community hates him.

the dipshites think if they say it enough it will become fact

not this time #othertruckers

(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Impossible for illegal aliens to vote in any election for any position for any party.

If you were being honest about this, then I doubt anyone would care as that issue is like a 0.00000000001% relevant "concern" with current voting procedures.

The problem is that the GOP laws specifically target and make it more difficult for black and hispanic American citizens, to vote.

Even Krauthammer, a fierce Trump critic from the right, understands this is a coup attempt:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/44...l-bad-idea

Let's get real here. Nobody is getting impeached and nobody is going to prison. That's just hyperbole on both sides.

The appointment of the Special Counsel will lower the temperature of the room very quickly, and his investigation will go on for a long time. Which side that favors is open to question. Clearly, it is in the interest of the Democratic Party to have no resolution of any current issues until after the mid-term elections. With Trump still in the White House, they stand a good chance of taking back at least one, and possibly both, houses of Congress.

The Republicans want to minimize the damage, and to avoid a breakaway by Trump supporters that would leave both wings of the party (the right wing and the righter wing) no longer viable in national elections. Their hope is to find somebody who is able to convince Trump to stick to the script and lose the Twitter account, so no more crises suck up all the oxygen in Congress and keep them from passing any legislation.

The fact remains that we are, as we have been since our founding in the 18th Century, a severely divided nation. That's not going to change. Somehow we have to find a way to learn to live with that without becoming a second class nation on the world stage.

(05-19-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:18 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  They're about to start a war if they start pushing. Maybe not a physical one... hell who knows? At this point I'm not sure we can solve our problems through the democratic process. It's beyond clear that many are so entrenched into the machine that they're going to need physical removal. It's like when your garden is infested with weeds. Sometimes you've got to get down on your hands and knees and rip them out by the roots. I hate to say this but I'm afraid that this is the direction our nation is headed.

Yea, just like in the 1930s in Germany. A xenophobic leader, installed through with a minority of votes then removes the established checks and balances.

Or, maybe Trump and the GOP will just go down the Venezuela route. Prevent free and fair elections from happening and/or if the opposition has rights to stop the administration or investigate it, simply have their powers removed.

Um, Trump had the majority of votes on the only ballot that counts, the electoral college. As much as you hate it NOW, remember when you didnt hate it. get over it. He was legally elected.

(05-19-2017 09:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:18 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  They're about to start a war if they start pushing. Maybe not a physical one... hell who knows? At this point I'm not sure we can solve our problems through the democratic process. It's beyond clear that many are so entrenched into the machine that they're going to need physical removal. It's like when your garden is infested with weeds. Sometimes you've got to get down on your hands and knees and rip them out by the roots. I hate to say this but I'm afraid that this is the direction our nation is headed.

Yea, just like in the 1930s in Germany. A xenophobic leader, installed through with a minority of votes then removes the established checks and balances.

Or, maybe Trump and the GOP will just go down the Venezuela route. Prevent free and fair elections from happening and/or if the opposition has rights to stop the administration or investigate it, simply have their powers removed.

You are confused. That is what your side has been trying to do.

It's crazy how they have co-opted the rights narratives as their own

(05-19-2017 10:26 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:42 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Impossible for illegal aliens to vote in any election for any position for any party.

If you were being honest about this, then I doubt anyone would care as that issue is like a 0.00000000001% relevant "concern" with current voting procedures.

The problem is that the GOP laws specifically target and make it more difficult for black and hispanic American citizens, to vote.

If thats the case... why was I able to vote? It was pretty easy for me to register here in Texas.

(05-19-2017 09:34 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:32 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yea, just like in the 1930s in Germany. A xenophobic leader, installed through with a minority of votes then removes the established checks and balances.

Or, maybe Trump and the GOP will just go down the Venezuela route. Prevent free and fair elections from happening and/or if the opposition has rights to stop the administration or investigate it, simply have their powers removed.

Comments like these are why liberals lose elections from Portland to Portland and everywhere in between.

Yea, because you guys want to remove any accountability for your supreme leader....and we rightly point out that the advocacy of removing the democratic process enabled Chavez/Maduro and Hitler.

But so long as we are talking about elections.....it is YOUR side that wants to make voting more difficult.

No, what we want is transparency in the process and verification of a persons legal right to participate in that process.

(05-19-2017 09:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-19-2017 09:18 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  They're about to start a war if they start pushing. Maybe not a physical one... hell who knows? At this point I'm not sure we can solve our problems through the democratic process. It's beyond clear that many are so entrenched into the machine that they're going to need physical removal. It's like when your garden is infested with weeds. Sometimes you've got to get down on your hands and knees and rip them out by the roots. I hate to say this but I'm afraid that this is the direction our nation is headed.

Yea, just like in the 1930s in Germany. A xenophobic leader, installed through with a minority of votes then removes the established checks and balances.

Or, maybe Trump and the GOP will just go down the Venezuela route. Prevent free and fair elections from happening and/or if the opposition has rights to stop the administration or investigate it, simply have their powers removed.

You are confused. That is what your side has been trying to do.

You do realize that's the result of Socialism, right?

(05-19-2017 10:38 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  If thats the case... why was I able to vote?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-co...SKCN18B1QB

Quote:The appeals court found that the law's provisions "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision" and "impose cures for problems that did not exist," concluding that the Republican-led legislature enacted it "with discriminatory intent."

(05-19-2017 09:41 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Tom, you sound so incredibly hypocritical saying all this while supporting HRC last fall

He knows that, he just doesn't care. He and others like him are perfectly willing to abuse and neglect such integrity as they MAY possess in service to the status quo in the democrat party. It's all about party and dogma to him and his comrades. The care little for the impact their flawed policies have on the entire country, just so long as they can keep a democrat in power.