(06-08-2017 11:56 AM)AllPtsBulletin Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 10:11 AM)DETLTU Wrote:  

(06-07-2017 10:16 PM)Irish Rowdy Wrote:  since someone said it. Why don't Tech and ULM play?

The games benefit them more than us.
We probably make unrealistic demands like 2 for 1s or something.
They always want the first game in Monroe (because the first game is the best attended- also the first game in the last series was in Monroe)

Mostly the first thing though.

Some benefit for ULM. Tech is 30-13 all time and hasn't lost in the series since the 80s.

If you're not kidding, that just sounds petty from an outsider's POV.

http://mcubed.net/ncaaf/series/latech/lamon.shtml

I took that as more of a risk reward assessment.

We can get VERY well attended games by playing in-state FCS teams like NSU (who we have WAYYYY more history with), Southern, or Grambling. None of those teams expect a return trip.

Beating ULM is no better for us than beating South Alabama, UMass, or Bowling Green (our upcoming G5 opponents). ULM, however, just wants to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tech. Playing ULM would just help legitimize them as an FBS program, which they certainly don't act like. We have no interest in propping them up.

If they go FCS, maybe we can play them every few years. But if we're going to play an instate G5 team, the only one we really want to play is Tulane. ULL's fans are horrendous, so we're fine not having to deal with them more than we already do.

(06-08-2017 04:41 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  We can get VERY well attended games by playing in-state FCS teams like NSU (who we have WAYYYY more history with), Southern, or Grambling. None of those teams expect a return trip.

Beating ULM is no better for us than beating South Alabama, UMass, or Bowling Green (our upcoming G5 opponents). ULM, however, just wants to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tech. Playing ULM would just help legitimize them as an FBS program, which they certainly don't act like. We have no interest in propping them up.

If they go FCS, maybe we can play them every few years. But if we're going to play an instate G5 team, the only one we really want to play is Tulane. ULL's fans are horrendous, so we're fine not having to deal with them more than we already do.

There is a upside to playing and beating ULM. Beat them often enough and you gets to show they who "little brother is". Plus it's probably the highest attended game for both. It's a lot easier to get separation by beating them badly each and everytime. Than not playing them...

Like it or not ULM is lumped in with Tech (rest of us) no matter how fans want to see it.

(06-08-2017 05:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 04:41 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  We can get VERY well attended games by playing in-state FCS teams like NSU (who we have WAYYYY more history with), Southern, or Grambling. None of those teams expect a return trip.

Beating ULM is no better for us than beating South Alabama, UMass, or Bowling Green (our upcoming G5 opponents). ULM, however, just wants to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tech. Playing ULM would just help legitimize them as an FBS program, which they certainly don't act like. We have no interest in propping them up.

If they go FCS, maybe we can play them every few years. But if we're going to play an instate G5 team, the only one we really want to play is Tulane. ULL's fans are horrendous, so we're fine not having to deal with them more than we already do.

There is a upside to playing and beating ULM. Beat them often enough and you gets to show they who "little brother is". Plus it's probably the highest attended game for both. It's a lot easier to get separation by beating them badly each and everytime. Than not playing them...

Like it or not ULM is lumped in with Tech (rest of us) no matter how fans want to see it.

When I lived in the area the Tech/ULM game was a big deal in the area -- brought out the fans on both sides. Tech alums who did not normally go to the games went to that one.

It seemed to be a great atmosphere. Lots of tailgating and pre-game parties at folks' houses, etc.

ULM (NLU) did seem to have much more success in 1-aa, however (before I moved there).

The amount of prep athletes in the area is hard to fathom for such a small overall population. I think the recruitment of this talent is probably one of the reasons for such separation. Tech gets a lot of athletes out of Monroe.

(06-08-2017 05:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 04:41 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  We can get VERY well attended games by playing in-state FCS teams like NSU (who we have WAYYYY more history with), Southern, or Grambling. None of those teams expect a return trip.

Beating ULM is no better for us than beating South Alabama, UMass, or Bowling Green (our upcoming G5 opponents). ULM, however, just wants to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tech. Playing ULM would just help legitimize them as an FBS program, which they certainly don't act like. We have no interest in propping them up.

If they go FCS, maybe we can play them every few years. But if we're going to play an instate G5 team, the only one we really want to play is Tulane. ULL's fans are horrendous, so we're fine not having to deal with them more than we already do.

There is a upside to playing and beating ULM. Beat them often enough and you gets to show they who "little brother is". Plus it's probably the highest attended game for both. It's a lot easier to get separation by beating them badly each and everytime. Than not playing them...

Like it or not ULM is lumped in with Tech (rest of us) no matter how fans want to see it.

We already did that. 8 straight times. At this point we have enough separation that there's no need. We're not battling for the same recruits, so beating them doesn't help there, either. Besides, ULL is little brother. ULM is baby brother.

And don't downplay Tech vs NSU. ULM was never our biggest rival. Before moving up to IA, that was NSU. They are our season opener this year. Trust me, both fanbases will show up for this one, and this one doesn't require a return trip.

ULM is in our past, just like Southeastern, McNeese, etc. ULL is kind of there, too, albeit not as far. I think most Tech fans see those as mountains we conquered and are ready to move on. We can play a ULL H&H every decade or so to shut them up.

For me personally, next targets on the list are Southern Miss and Tulane. We need a series with the Wave. Other than that, give me some other AAC teams like SMU, UH, Tulsa, and Memphis.

(06-08-2017 05:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 05:28 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 04:41 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  We can get VERY well attended games by playing in-state FCS teams like NSU (who we have WAYYYY more history with), Southern, or Grambling. None of those teams expect a return trip.

Beating ULM is no better for us than beating South Alabama, UMass, or Bowling Green (our upcoming G5 opponents). ULM, however, just wants to be mentioned in the same sentence as Tech. Playing ULM would just help legitimize them as an FBS program, which they certainly don't act like. We have no interest in propping them up.

If they go FCS, maybe we can play them every few years. But if we're going to play an instate G5 team, the only one we really want to play is Tulane. ULL's fans are horrendous, so we're fine not having to deal with them more than we already do.

There is a upside to playing and beating ULM. Beat them often enough and you gets to show they who "little brother is". Plus it's probably the highest attended game for both. It's a lot easier to get separation by beating them badly each and everytime. Than not playing them...

Like it or not ULM is lumped in with Tech (rest of us) no matter how fans want to see it.

We already did that. 8 straight times. At this point we have enough separation that there's no need. We're not battling for the same recruits, so beating them doesn't help there, either. Besides, ULL is little brother. ULM is baby brother.

And don't downplay Tech vs NSU. ULM was never our biggest rival. Before moving up to IA, that was NSU. They are our season opener this year. Trust me, both fanbases will show up for this one, and this one doesn't require a return trip.

ULM is in our past, just like Southeastern, McNeese, etc. ULL is kind of there, too, albeit not as far. I think most Tech fans see those as mountains we conquered and are ready to move on. We can play a ULL H&H every decade or so to shut them up.

For me personally, next targets on the list are Southern Miss and Tulane. We need a series with the Wave. Other than that, give me some other AAC teams like SMU, UH, Tulsa, and Memphis.

ULM is more like the bastard brother who is on life support

no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.

I imagine Liberty, Umass and NMSU will be glad to sign Home and Home. Plenty of Payday Games left against the SEC & ACC payday games. I doubt getting OOC games will be an issue. Also, SB is going to a 9 game conference schedule next year. They only need 3 OOC games. You have to think they will be able to schedule FCS teams as well.

(06-08-2017 09:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I imagine Liberty, Umass and NMSU will be glad to sign Home and Home. Plenty of Payday Games left against the SEC & ACC payday games. I doubt getting OOC games will be an issue. Also, SB is going to a 9 game conference schedule next year. They only need 3 OOC games. You have to think they will be able to schedule FCS teams as well.

Do you have confirmation of that? I was thinking the rules said they had to, but I hadn't heard anyone confirm that was going to happen.

(06-08-2017 09:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.

so smu shouldn't play North Texas since they are about 25 games up on us in the history and their budget is larger...flipping stupid. you play games against regional teams to help both schools

(06-08-2017 10:25 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.

so smu shouldn't play North Texas since they are about 25 games up on us in the history and their budget is larger...flipping stupid. you play games against regional teams to help both schools

Playing
ULM
Does
Not
Help
Us

The SMU-UNT series is what it is because SMU was once in the SWC and was basically a "power conference" team at one point. Since the tables have been evened, the series has been much more competitive.

Tech-ULM would not be competitive. We have better rivals to worry about now. We've left them in our dust and would appreciate leaving them there.

(06-08-2017 09:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  I imagine Liberty, Umass and NMSU will be glad to sign Home and Home. Plenty of Payday Games left against the SEC & ACC payday games. I doubt getting OOC games will be an issue. Also, SB is going to a 9 game conference schedule next year. They only need 3 OOC games. You have to think they will be able to schedule FCS teams as well.

If so some teams will need to cancel OOC games. Below are the only schools I checked and all 3 have 4 OOC games scheduled past this season

App


2018

09/01 - at Penn State
09/08 - at Charlotte
09/15 - Southern Miss
09/22 - Gardner-Webb


2021

09/04 - East Carolina (at Charlotte, NC)
09/11 - at Miami (FL)
09/18 - Elon
09/25 - Marshall


GST


2018

08/30 - Kennesaw State
09/08 - at NC State
09/15 - at Memphis
09/22 - Western Michigan


2021

09/04 - Army
09/11 - at North Carolina
09/18 - Charlotte
09/25 - at Auburn

GSU


2018

09/01 - Presbyterian
09/08 - UMass
09/15 - at Clemson
10/20 - at New Mexico State


2019

08/31 - at LSU
09/07 - Maine
09/14 - at Minnesota
10/19 - New Mexico State

edit: USA has 4 OOC games scheduled 4 out of the next 5 seasons

This is 1 reason I #%r^ HATE LA Tech.....

Here's the TRUTH:

Blah Tech is no better than UL Monroe or UL Lafayette...

You ppl just have #%^ elitist attitudes, Blah Tech, ULM, ULL, Tulane are all in the same damn boat. And I'm betting that if the state could get away with it 2 or 3 of you would be shut down and since Tulane is private they couldn't shut them down if they wanted. So that only leaves 3.

(06-08-2017 10:25 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.

so smu shouldn't play North Texas since they are about 25 games up on us in the history and their budget is larger...flipping stupid. you play games against regional teams to help both schools

Agree.

(06-08-2017 10:59 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  This is 1 reason I #%r^ HATE LA Tech.....

Here's the TRUTH:

Blah Tech is no better than UL Monroe or UL Lafayette...

You ppl just have #%^ elitist attitudes, Blah Tech, ULM, ULL, Tulane are all in the same damn boat. And I'm betting that if the state could get away with it 2 or 3 of you would be shut down and since Tulane is private they couldn't shut them down if they wanted. So that only leaves 3.

First off, check a scoreboard. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Here's the thing. If we play ULM annually, that leaves no room on our schedule for a H&H series with any other G5 team. We play 2 P5s and an FCS team every year. We'd be much better served by scheduling more competitive teams. The teams we have currently scheduled aren't great, other than maybe Bowling Green. We could do a little better, but replacing them with ULM isn't the answer.

I would also like to again point out that ULM has never been our biggest rival. It's not like Texas and Texas A&M not playing. This is more like Texas A&M and TCU not playing anymore. Our biggest rival was NSU. We moved up to DIA, they didn't, hence that series ended. ULM stopped being competitive in football, thus that series ended.

Sigh... look. Maybe this does all sound elitist. Here's the thing. We just want to see our program grow. We want to be big time some day. We'll never be as big as LSU, but we'd at least like to be relevant. We want to be north LA's team. We want Shreveport/Bossier City to stop being Tiger country and become Bulldog country. Maintaining an annual series with an FBS bottom feeder is not how you get there.

Tech has offered to play ULM numerous time over the last 10-15 years for an relative easy W and decent crowd but they haven't accepted. Of course that maybe due to us not offering a return game in Monroe...

Found this:

"With ULM in contract with the Sun Belt Conference through 2019, they will have some time to think about making the change that would benefit their program in multiple ways."

https://ulmhawkeyeonline.com/20855/sport...l-success/

Makes me wonder if ULM's president, who seems to me to be anti-athletics, plans to drop ULM to FCS in 2019... or maybe I'm speculating too hard.

ULM, half the sun belt, about 1/4 of the mac and a few of the teams in this conference need to drop to fcs. We're all wasting our time because of the currptiom caused by big money and espn and we don't have a chance at the national championship, but many schools at the bottom of fbs are bankrupting themselves to support non competitive programs.

Also, I can't wait to watch liberty crash and burn.

(06-08-2017 10:25 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:54 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  

(06-08-2017 09:32 PM)NTTHOR Wrote:  no team in cusa should have an elitist attitude...too many teams won't play others due to perceiving themselves as better...that's bull****.... d1 schools are all equal where we stand...get off your high horse..you aren't better than others...

ULM's record, both against us and in general, plus their budget (or lack thereof) disagree with you.

so smu shouldn't play North Texas since they are about 25 games up on us in the history and their budget is larger...flipping stupid. you play games against regional teams to help both schools

ULM is a joke, have a higher standard for yourself.