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RE: Conference USA offends me
(08-30-2017 10:24 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 07:13 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 09:12 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  You noobies have no idea. Stats and figures. Ha. Stats tell the story for losers.

What you don't figure in your 'stats' is that we have fans that have been passionate fans for longer than your teams have been established. That's right, figure that stat out. And yes we are embarrassed to be in a conference where the host of the championship game can't get 10,000 butts in the seats.
We've been down and we are hurting but we'll be back.
BTW Tech dogs, beat us then diss us. Beat ranked teams then diss us. Otherwise I laugh at your BS.

I think we have already done both multiple times 07-coffee3

You guys are to much like us. Proud older programs that because of things beyond our control have had an uphill climb to an insurmountable peak.
We struggle to pay bills and try and compete against schools that receive $44,400,000/yr from the SEC. We deal with two in our poor state and are just down the road from the one in your state. Not to mention two more just across the state line in Alabama.
We are in the same boat. We are kindred souls. Not like the fillers in this conference.

S. Miss and Tech aren't the only one with those problems.....(below the history section)

What most of you S. Miss fans don't realize Western fans probably understand where you are coming from better than any other fanbase.

Western in basketball...

before espn told everyone how to think and a couple other problems....Western was a national program by any measure you want to draw from.

Wins (16th, might be 18 haven't checked in a couple years)

NCAA Bids 23 (25th out of FBS schools turned down a handful to play in the NIT when it was the #1 tourney)

conference championships 43 (third all-time behind uk and Kansas)

20 win seasons 43 (sixth all-time)

winning% (9th)

polls 21 times and 111 weeks and that's just since the AP started

But like S. Miss, Western failed to build off the history and today...it means nothing to most people. That's what happens when your best years are behind you. Hell Western's basketball history makes S. Miss fb look small time if you compare the two.

14 out of the first 25 years of the AP poll Western was in the top 20
7 out of the 14, top 10
10 out of 14 top 12
5 more top 25 in the AP poll over the next 20 years....

That adds up to Western being in the top 20 (went to top 25 later) in 19 of the first 45 years (1950-1995) of the AP poll. A total of 21 times and 111 weeks in the top 20(25) of the AP Poll. For context...CUSA schools weeks in AP. O for those not listed

Tech 2(14 wks), ODU 1, Rice 2(8wks), UTEP 10,(60WKS), Marshall 2(14wks), UAB 6(34WKS), UNCC 5(22wks), S. Miss 2(19wks), UNT 1(2wks)

And before the AP Poll Western was in 11 of 16 national polls.

Today it means next to nothing...other than to us Western fans. Which sounded a lot like S. Miss fans when we played in the SBC and we watched schools move on mostly because of location.

First it was ODU, UNCC, VCU, UAB and S. Fla
Then it was UNT & FIU
Then it was Middle and FAU

Hell if it wasn't for Louisville S. Miss would have never been in the Metro. Louisville did not want Western in the same conference...

1981 Western had made 8 of the last 16 NCAA tourneys and a F4 10 years earlier. Western also owned UofL in basketball at that time in t head to head games. And Western was averaging 12/13k in fans which dropped to 8/9k in the 80s

S. Miss fans....Sound familiar ?

S. Miss and Tech aren't the only one with those problems.....

1:45 hour drive of Western there's a National championship basketball program and lately a top 10 football program in the ACC.

2.5 hours in the same state there's a national championship basketball program and a SEC football member.

Across the border with in a 45 minute drive there's another SEC program. Not very good but still SEC.

Three hour drive and a bordering state there's another SEC fb program that draws 108k each Saturday they play at home.

Five hours south and you have the best FB program in the country

Three hours north and you have another national championship BB program and a member of the B10 in a bordering state

Four hours north and you have another Big 10 FB program in a bordering state

Four and half hours there's another Big 10 program in a bordering state

If you think it's hard for S. Miss try going up against two of the best basketball programs of all time. In a state that values basketball like Miss does football. In a poor state who's fans seem to gain some form of self-worth by being a uk fan. And they are just as petty if nt more than Miss/Ole Miss fans


We all have problems and just because some members of this conference don't have 30+ years in D1 football doesn't make them "fillers". What it shows is S. Miss got a free ride with recruiting the south for a very long time. Now there are more schools competing for those kids

S. Miss history is getting farther and farther away...if you can't build on it it means nothing today. Hell last year means very little, today. You have to build on it or it dies.
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RE: Conference USA offends me
(08-30-2017 10:24 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 07:13 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 09:12 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  You noobies have no idea. Stats and figures. Ha. Stats tell the story for losers.

What you don't figure in your 'stats' is that we have fans that have been passionate fans for longer than your teams have been established. That's right, figure that stat out. And yes we are embarrassed to be in a conference where the host of the championship game can't get 10,000 butts in the seats.
We've been down and we are hurting but we'll be back.
BTW Tech dogs, beat us then diss us. Beat ranked teams then diss us. Otherwise I laugh at your BS.

I think we have already done both multiple times 07-coffee3

You guys are to much like us. Proud older programs that because of things beyond our control have had an uphill climb to an insurmountable peak.
We struggle to pay bills and try and compete against schools that receive $44,400,000/yr from the SEC. We deal with two in our poor state and are just down the road from the one in your state. Not to mention two more just across the state line in Alabama.
We are in the same boat. We are kindred souls. Not like the fillers in this conference.

We feel ya too... WVU is the big sloppy whore sucking off the state and leaving us much less. And within three and a half hour's drive from Huntington, you'll find:

Ohio State
Cincinnati
Pitt
UK
Louisville
Virginia Tech
WVU
08-31-2017 09:45 AM
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RE: Conference USA offends me
(08-31-2017 09:45 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 10:24 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 07:13 PM)winston70 Wrote:  
(08-30-2017 09:12 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  You noobies have no idea. Stats and figures. Ha. Stats tell the story for losers.

What you don't figure in your 'stats' is that we have fans that have been passionate fans for longer than your teams have been established. That's right, figure that stat out. And yes we are embarrassed to be in a conference where the host of the championship game can't get 10,000 butts in the seats.
We've been down and we are hurting but we'll be back.
BTW Tech dogs, beat us then diss us. Beat ranked teams then diss us. Otherwise I laugh at your BS.

I think we have already done both multiple times 07-coffee3

You guys are to much like us. Proud older programs that because of things beyond our control have had an uphill climb to an insurmountable peak.
We struggle to pay bills and try and compete against schools that receive $44,400,000/yr from the SEC. We deal with two in our poor state and are just down the road from the one in your state. Not to mention two more just across the state line in Alabama.
We are in the same boat. We are kindred souls. Not like the fillers in this conference.

We feel ya too... WVU is the big sloppy whore sucking off the state and leaving us much less. And within three and a half hour's drive from Huntington, you'll find:

Ohio State
Cincinnati
Pitt
UK
Louisville
Virginia Tech
WVU

I lived in Lewisburg, WV from 2001 - 2004. At the time , there was 1 sports bar. Just after I moved there, went to the bar to watch CFB and to meet people. Happened to be during a WVU game. I wasn't there long, couldn't take the crowd. Instant WVU hater at that point forward. So much I married me a Marshall girl. When Marshall wins, she says nothing to me. When Southern Miss wins, I'm all up in her grill. Exactly how it is supposed to be.
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RE: Conference USA offends me
Never said there weren't problems peculiar to each C-USA institution (it's why we all suck attendance-wise)....but just because everyone has them, doesn't mean those peculiarities can't effect some more harshly than others. Sheesh

Anyone with a half a brain (and those with less from West Virginny..03-lmfao) knows 2 SEC teat slurpers in a small, poor state is DISASTER for anyone else (ask UAB and USA).....and I was basically talkin' football...whereby UK has never had chit and UL has just blossomed as a so-called "national power".

As for basketball, anyone with half a brain (and those with less from Kentucky 03-lmfao) knows it would be tough (or impossible) to compete in a state with UK and UL...but basketball grabs far less resources, far less recruits and far less season ticket holders. Just the facts..04-cheers
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RE: Conference USA offends me
Basketball cost less but what you are not getting the seasons overlap and you are fighting a uphill battle to get uk basketball fans to invest in anything but uk. Especially the low class fans....

its those that make up most of the asses in the seats, after your bases

Last years championship game would have had close to the same listed attendance as the year before. I know it was announced 16800 or somewhere in the neighborhood. I been going to Western football games since 1966 and there were 19 to 20k in the stands for the 2015 championship.

The difference is....#1 uk played #3 UCLA on TV at the same time

Another thing was cost those borderline fans will sit at home watching uk basketball and Western football and safe that $35.00. As sad as that sounds...that is the fact of it.

You would have to live in KY to understand the draw of uk basketball on a poor BASKETBALL state. So it's not about if uk football is good or not. The lack of good football actually works against it. Most of the time by Oct 15th everyone is looking forward to basketball.

Western is changing that...slowly but change is happening
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RE: Conference USA offends me
Not to mention that it is still a P5 school in a premier conference... there are a lot of recruits who would go to a so so P5 than a good G5
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