(09-26-2017 10:16 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  I hope down the road the legal action will create more opportunities for honest coaches.

It might. Coaches and universities have never been afraid of the NCAA and their ability to investigate a program. The FBI is an entirely different animal, though.

(09-26-2017 09:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Auburn? Didn't some of you folks want their coach here rather than Tubby?

I was a strong proponent of Pearl but if this turns out to be true then I will have some serious back tracking to do.

This will simply be too many strikes........

From the AAC board, future power conference openings:

Big 12: 1 (Okie State)
PAC: 2 (Zona, USC)
SEC: 1 (Auburn)
ACC: 2 (Louisville, Miami)

(09-26-2017 10:47 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Pete Thamel‏ Verified account @PeteThamel 3m3 minutes ago

Former NCAA official told me today this could end up as the biggest college sports story of our lifetime. "It's also the least surprising."

Pick that scab that is the shoe companies and the AAU and it going to get ugly and widespread.

follow the money


Why aren't KY, NC, Duke, Kansas and UCLA in there?

Why is the FBI even going after BB at all? Don't they have something better to do these days?

(09-26-2017 10:53 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  follow the money


Why aren't KY, NC, Duke, Kansas and UCLA in there?

Maybe the FBI is working its way up the food chain.

(09-26-2017 10:53 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  follow the money. Why aren't KY, NC, Duke, Kansas and UCLA in there?

Kentucky, North Carolina and Duke are Nike schools. UCLA just switched from Adidas to Under Armour.

Kansas is Adidas, so stay tuned for Jayhawk potential violations.

(09-26-2017 09:58 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Dohrmann is the Editor of The Athletic, wrote a book on hoops recruiting:

George Dohrmann ‏Verified account @georgedohrmann 49m49 minutes ago

For decades, people (myself included) have tried to tell you how players are procured in college hoops. The FBI is going to tell you in full

Fans are about to find out the difference between an "investigation" led by ex-NCAA folks hired by a school and a REAL investigation.

Truer words were never spoken.

(09-26-2017 10:52 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 10:47 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Pete Thamel‏ Verified account @PeteThamel 3m3 minutes ago

Former NCAA official told me today this could end up as the biggest college sports story of our lifetime. "It's also the least surprising."

Pick that scab that is the shoe companies and the AAU and it going to get ugly and widespread.

Yet, many on here seem to have great respect for the AAU guys.

Probably just the tip of the iceberg. Once these guys start talking, I bet it gets much uglier.

(09-26-2017 09:55 AM)BengalBurger Wrote:  ***edited to identify schools indicated in indictment***

according to Adidas' site: http://adidas-team.com/resources/links/

Here's some top universities that might be seeking representation (those with numbers are indicated in the indictment, those without are just notable Adidas schools). . .

University 1: Auburn Tigers
University 2: South Carolina Gamecocks
University 3: Oklahoma State University Cowboys
University 4: Arizona State Sundevils
University 5: University of Southern California Trojans
University 6: Louisville Cardinals
University 7: Miami Hurricanes

Kansas Jayhawks
Indiana Hoosiers
Mississippi State Bulldogs
Nebraska Cornhuskers
Texas A&M Aggies

among MANY others.

finally got all the universities added.

If none of this touches Calipari then what's the point. He's NCAA basketball corruption personified. He created an entire system in plain sight now that no one even bothers to question anymore for Pete's sake. He's like Teflon Don. You go after the elephants. Like Eliot Ness and Capone. Look at his history and they still put him in the HOF.

Nike must do a better job when it comes to funneling cash.

Tip of the iceberg:

9. This affidavit . . . . Because this affidavit is being submitted for the limited purpose of establishing probable cause, it does not include all of the facts that I have learned during the course of the investigation.

To anyone who follows big time college sports, the charges and allegations are no surprise. The FBI's involvement is a bit surprising, and it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. Maybe some assistants and behind the scenes guy get punished and maybe a high profile coach has to resign, but I doubt it changes how "business" is done moving forward. Players, coaches, shoe companies, etc. will still be in cahoots.

(09-26-2017 11:10 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  If none of this touches Calipari then what's the point. He's NCAA basketball corruption personified. He created an entire system in plain sight now that no one even bothers to question for Pete's sake. He's like Teflon Don. You go after the elephants. Like Eliot Ness and Capone. Look at his history and they still put him in the HOF.

Beat me to the punch on that one. Just last week I posted that he was the face of college BB and that said a lot about the state of the sport.

(09-26-2017 10:47 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Pete Thamel‏ Verified account @PeteThamel 3m3 minutes ago

Former NCAA official told me today this could end up as the biggest college sports story of our lifetime. "It's also the least surprising."

Yep. Much more to come on this. Athletic programs may crumble in response to this. NCAA basketball may not be the same after this.

We've all known this for a while. Shoe companies and AAU have destroyed college basketball.

(09-26-2017 11:18 AM)dcg141 Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 11:10 AM)80sTiger Wrote:  If none of this touches Calipari then what's the point. He's NCAA basketball corruption personified. He created an entire system in plain sight now that no one even bothers to question for Pete's sake. He's like Teflon Don. You go after the elephants. Like Eliot Ness and Capone. Look at his history and they still put him in the HOF.

Beat me to the punch on that one. Just last week I posted that he was the face of college BB and that said a lot about the state of the sport.

I couldn't agree more. Zero accountability and held up as the pinnacle of the sport. The majority of the sports press are complicit in his glorification.

(09-26-2017 11:04 AM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(09-26-2017 09:58 AM)Tigx Wrote:  Dohrmann is the Editor of The Athletic, wrote a book on hoops recruiting:

George Dohrmann ‏Verified account @georgedohrmann 49m49 minutes ago

For decades, people (myself included) have tried to tell you how players are procured in college hoops. The FBI is going to tell you in full

Fans are about to find out the difference between an "investigation" led by ex-NCAA folks hired by a school and a REAL investigation.

Truer words were never spoken.

O lordy, tho. It's gotta be the FBI B or C team--the ones who would rather be busting big time crooks who hurt folks. Have you ever met FBI agents? There are levels of those guys, depending on their innate capabilities.

They came to town here and couldn't even bust this Chinese guy for sextrafficking and anyone could have done that.

As if we didn't know this already. I predict that some heads will roll at some Universities, but that's about it. Think about Reggie Bush at USC or the booster at Michigan. Heck, look at Penn State - they are #4 in the country right now in FB and I cannot imagine a worse scandal.

There are two things underlying all of this:

1. College BB is rapidly becoming irrelevant. Sorry, but every year that goes by when there are more and more 'one-and-dones' just confirms what everyone knows: the game lacks any compelling players who stay more than one year....and for the really good players, college BB is a place to make sure you showcase your potential and....not get hurt.

2. I don't think it's a coincidence that this involves Adidas which has been really aggressive in trying to grow its U.S. market share.

So, you have a aggressive 'buyer' and a desperate 'seller'. Great environment for which payola needs to flourish.

Nobody is getting the death penalty. If Penn State didn't get the death penalty, then there is no way any of these Universities will get the death penalty.