Obviously a lot of ball left to be played, but if 12-0 Alabama and 12-0 Georgia meet on the first Saturday of December, could they just be playing for seeding?

TCU is the last hope for an undefeated Big 12 team (currently tied with West Virginia as I write this).

Miami and Clemson could pose a problem for the SEC. Presuming Miami gets by Florida State today, they still have Notre Dame left. Clemson has to pay NC State a visit as well.

The Big 10 schedule will cost at least two of Penn State, Michigan, and Wisconsin an undefeated season if they haven't fallen by then. It's possible all three could finish at 11-1, in which case Wisconsin meets Penn State or Michigan again in the conference championship game.

The Pac 12 finds itself in a similar situation as Utah plays both Washington and Washington State, with Utah potentially facing the North Division champion in a rematch.

The best case scenario for the SEC would be TCU dropping a game, even in a CCG.

Utah wins the Pac 12 South, but splits with the North Division champion, resulting in a 12-1 conference champion. Likewise, Wisconsin wins the B1G after losing to Penn State or Michigan in the regular season.

This would then make the CFP look something like this:

1) Clemson
2) Alabama
3) Wisconsin (12-1)
4) Georgia (12-1)
5) Washington (12-1)
6) TCU (12-1)

No chance IMO if there are other one loss conference champs available to choose from. If Bama is the only one loss champ then this will come into play.

Washington weak SOS would come into play & if Georgia plays Bama close in the CCG I could see them getting the nod. I can also see TCU losing twice to Oklahoma. Georgia has a legitimate shot at the CFP. If the Dawgs bet Bama then they both are a lock.


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Utah and Michigan lost yesterday.

Definitly possible. We have seen something different and somewhat unexpected each year of the CFP.

2014: undefeated Florida St gets the #3 seed; Ohio St jumps from #6 to #4 and wins the title as the #4 seed

2015: #2 seed Alabama won the title (not crazy but still not #1)

2016: Penn St wins the B1G and gets left out; #2 Clemson won the title

We still haven’t had a #1 seed win the title. We’re bound to see a year with 2 schools from the same conference.

It would take a scenario that played out something like this:
A one loss Big 12 team faces a 2 loss Big 12 team in the Conference Championship game. The one loss school loses.

The ACC has Clemson win out. Clemson is in.
Michigan beats Penn State, Penn State beats Ohio State, Michigan State beats Penn State, Michigan beats Wisconsin and Ohio State. The Big 10 championship is a 1 loss Wisconsin against whoever wins the tie breaker from the other division and that 2 loss team beats Wisconsin.

Washington wins out and represents the PAC.

Then the SEC has an easy way to claim 2 slots and a hard way to claim 2 slots:

Easy way: Alabama vs Georgia both undefeated and one team beats the other at the last second or in overtime in a well played entertaining game.

Hard way: Auburn wins out beating Alabama at the end on a long field goal. Auburn had beaten Georgia in a similar fashion. Then Auburn faces Georgia in a rematch and Georgia wins by a eyelash in regulation or overtime. Auburn has two losses and is out to represent the SEC in their top tier non CFP bowl. Alabama is in by virtue of having had a fantastic year with a very close road loss, Georgia is in by avenging a close loss they had to Auburn.

Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

(10-28-2017 06:16 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

A 1 loss Big 12 champ is in, there is no question about that. The OU win in Columbus seals that. It appears OSU will represent the B1G and there is no way they can lose at home to the Sooners and either the Sooners or a 1 loss Big 12 champ that would beat the Sooners twice end up getting left out of the CFP.

If you want two SEC teams it has to end up with the ACC & PAC teams missing and Georgia losing to Alabama and because they beat ND head to head they get in over the Irish.

I don't expect it to happen, but if ISU won out and won the Big 12 they would have a heck of a claim to the CFP because they started their run with a new QB, their 2 losses came under a different QB and its kind of like a new start on the season. Not that its likely to happen.

(10-28-2017 08:16 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 06:16 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

A 1 loss Big 12 champ is in, there is no question about that. The OU win in Columbus seals that. It appears OSU will represent the B1G and there is no way they can lose at home to the Sooners and either the Sooners or a 1 loss Big 12 champ that would beat the Sooners twice end up getting left out of the CFP.

If you want two SEC teams it has to end up with the ACC & PAC teams missing and Georgia losing to Alabama and because they beat ND head to head they get in over the Irish.

I don't expect it to happen, but if ISU won out and won the Big 12 they would have a heck of a claim to the CFP because they started their run with a new QB, their 2 losses came under a different QB and its kind of like a new start on the season. Not that its likely to happen.

If the Sooners lose again there won't be a Big 12 representative. Bank on it. If Washington wins out in style then the Huskies will likely be in. If UW drops one the PAC won't get one in either. If Notre Dame beats Miami and Clemson drops another one then the ACC won't officially have one in, but Notre Dame will have a shot.

The Big 12 SOS overall is just too poor, and outside of Oklahoma the TV appeal too low for the network driven committee to pick someone other than Texas and Oklahoma.

(10-28-2017 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 08:16 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 06:16 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

A 1 loss Big 12 champ is in, there is no question about that. The OU win in Columbus seals that. It appears OSU will represent the B1G and there is no way they can lose at home to the Sooners and either the Sooners or a 1 loss Big 12 champ that would beat the Sooners twice end up getting left out of the CFP.

If you want two SEC teams it has to end up with the ACC & PAC teams missing and Georgia losing to Alabama and because they beat ND head to head they get in over the Irish.

I don't expect it to happen, but if ISU won out and won the Big 12 they would have a heck of a claim to the CFP because they started their run with a new QB, their 2 losses came under a different QB and its kind of like a new start on the season. Not that its likely to happen.

If the Sooners lose again there won't be a Big 12 representative. Bank on it. If Washington wins out in style then the Huskies will likely be in. If UW drops one the PAC won't get one in either. If Notre Dame beats Miami and Clemson drops another one then the ACC won't officially have one in, but Notre Dame will have a shot.

The Big 12 SOS overall is just too poor, and outside of Oklahoma the TV appeal too low for the network driven committee to pick someone other than Texas and Oklahoma.

If we are picking teams on tv ratings then that is the problem with the sport. Its more like WWE than real football.

You mention Washington and then complain about the Big 12 SOS, are you serious? Come on JR, they played Rutgers, Montana & Fresno St. in the non conference and the PAC is the worst conference in the country.

(10-28-2017 09:53 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 08:16 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 06:16 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

A 1 loss Big 12 champ is in, there is no question about that. The OU win in Columbus seals that. It appears OSU will represent the B1G and there is no way they can lose at home to the Sooners and either the Sooners or a 1 loss Big 12 champ that would beat the Sooners twice end up getting left out of the CFP.

If you want two SEC teams it has to end up with the ACC & PAC teams missing and Georgia losing to Alabama and because they beat ND head to head they get in over the Irish.

I don't expect it to happen, but if ISU won out and won the Big 12 they would have a heck of a claim to the CFP because they started their run with a new QB, their 2 losses came under a different QB and its kind of like a new start on the season. Not that its likely to happen.

If the Sooners lose again there won't be a Big 12 representative. Bank on it. If Washington wins out in style then the Huskies will likely be in. If UW drops one the PAC won't get one in either. If Notre Dame beats Miami and Clemson drops another one then the ACC won't officially have one in, but Notre Dame will have a shot.

The Big 12 SOS overall is just too poor, and outside of Oklahoma the TV appeal too low for the network driven committee to pick someone other than Texas and Oklahoma.

If we are picking teams on tv ratings then that is the problem with the sport. Its more like WWE than real football.

You mention Washington and then complain about the Big 12 SOS, are you serious? Come on JR, they played Rutgers, Montana & Fresno St. in the non conference and the PAC is the worst conference in the country.

That's why I have been for a champs only format since this all got started. It is a committee designed to do nothing but what the network wants. T.C.U. and Baylor never had a chance and Ohio State probably shouldn't have made the final 4 the year they won it all.

I don't think Washington deserves it. I think the committee will pick them to tie into the West Coast viewership if they finish with only 1 loss. It has nothing to do with merit. It's why I'm against expanding the playoff to 8 because it cements the damned committee in place. If we expand the playoffs it needs to be internal to the final 4 conferences, and we only need 4. Then a champs only is still in effect, no committee is needed, and the players can play their way into the championship, as it should be done.

What I've said is what will happen, not what should happen. Those are two wholly separate things.

(10-28-2017 10:04 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 09:53 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 08:27 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 08:16 PM)Win5002 Wrote:  

(10-28-2017 06:16 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  Horned Frogs down! Iowa State is now in first place in the Big 12.

My picks as of today:

1) Alabama (13-0)
2) Penn State (13-0)
3) Georgia (12-1)
4) Notre Dame (12-1)

I am thinking Notre Dame will beat Miami, who squeaks by NC State in the ACC Championship Game. I could see the Big 12 being left on the outside looking in with one of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State/TCU at #5.

A 1 loss Big 12 champ is in, there is no question about that. The OU win in Columbus seals that. It appears OSU will represent the B1G and there is no way they can lose at home to the Sooners and either the Sooners or a 1 loss Big 12 champ that would beat the Sooners twice end up getting left out of the CFP.

If you want two SEC teams it has to end up with the ACC & PAC teams missing and Georgia losing to Alabama and because they beat ND head to head they get in over the Irish.

I don't expect it to happen, but if ISU won out and won the Big 12 they would have a heck of a claim to the CFP because they started their run with a new QB, their 2 losses came under a different QB and its kind of like a new start on the season. Not that its likely to happen.

If the Sooners lose again there won't be a Big 12 representative. Bank on it. If Washington wins out in style then the Huskies will likely be in. If UW drops one the PAC won't get one in either. If Notre Dame beats Miami and Clemson drops another one then the ACC won't officially have one in, but Notre Dame will have a shot.

The Big 12 SOS overall is just too poor, and outside of Oklahoma the TV appeal too low for the network driven committee to pick someone other than Texas and Oklahoma.

If we are picking teams on tv ratings then that is the problem with the sport. Its more like WWE than real football.

You mention Washington and then complain about the Big 12 SOS, are you serious? Come on JR, they played Rutgers, Montana & Fresno St. in the non conference and the PAC is the worst conference in the country.

That's why I have been for a champs only format since this all got started. It is a committee designed to do nothing but what the network wants. T.C.U. and Baylor never had a chance and Ohio State probably shouldn't have made the final 4 the year they won it all.

I don't think Washington deserves it. I think the committee will pick them to tie into the West Coast viewership if they finish with only 1 loss. It has nothing to do with merit. It's why I'm against expanding the playoff to 8 because it cements the damned committee in place. If we expand the playoffs it needs to be internal to the final 4 conferences, and we only need 4. Then a champs only is still in effect, no committee is needed, and the players can play their way into the championship, as it should be done.

What I've said is what will happen, not what should happen. Those are two wholly separate things.

I completely agree with that post. I have said it needs to be a 6 team playoff as long as we have 5 Power leagues and the 6th spot goes to the highest G5 team not another Power league team. Matter of fact I have felt they could match the two highest G5 teams up instead of G5 league championship games to see who gets the G5 spot.

Then everything is settled on the field and there is no committees, no picking and choosing, no politics with the exception of the G5 selection or playin selection teams but that is more access than they ever had before. Just football like it should be! I would rather have 4 Power leagues that included all the current Power league teams but until that happened a 6 team playoff as I described would truly give a national champion that was decided on the field.

Actually, I think you might be surprised JR about ND. I think the playoff committee may send ND the message that being a conference champion is important. They have pretty good logic to do it especially if Georgia loses the SEC championship and finishes with 1 loss.

If there are at least 3 other P5 champs with only 1 loss it really makes it hard to put Georgia in over other conference champions and if you can't put Georgia in, its really hard to put ND in who Georgia beat. Also, ND is going to have one less game played. Then even if there are only 3 conference champions with 1 loss or less and Georgia only has a loss in the CCG its hard for ND to get in.