(10-15-2017 02:12 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 01:03 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 06:20 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 02:46 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-13-2017 11:07 AM)bullet Wrote:  I think we have the answer. The beginning of the end of the NCAA. Whether they officially disappear or not, they are now irrelevant.

Myron Medcalf at ESPN wrote this:

Quote:After nearly four years of an intense and combative back-and-forth with North Carolina -- the school had repeatedly challenged the NCAA's jurisdiction throughout the investigation -- the committee on infractions cleared the Tar Heels. That's a devastating development for the NCAA, which was already facing questions and concerns about its authority, necessity and future in Division I athletics after the FBI's investigation.

Three of the 6 people on the COI had legal backgrounds. They knew that the NCAA had no legal standing and could put the NCAA in financial jeopardy with any other verdict.

I beg to differ X but the Crowder email alone proved a falsification of grades, the NCAA has & has used that authority in the past. Not to mention the former players speaking out.


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Differ all you want.
The only "former players" that spoke out were ones that were trying to get some financial gain from the University and even then it was a minute handful vs. the total number involved.

Notice how you didn't touch the Crowder email. That's direct proof that grades were falsified to keep an athlete eligible. You even have the athletes name. What else do you need? It's an open & shut case. This isn't a court of law, all the NCAA has ever needed was a reasonable assumption of guilt. That's all over NC. This narrative that they couldn't find any rules that were broken is BS, falsifying grades is an NCAA violation & against the rules.

The former players testimony compliments the emails & other evidence. As far as them trying to get a financial gain from it I'll defer to you there but Sypher & Powell each tried to extort money from Pitino & the UofL & that didn't disprove their claims. That didn't keep anyone from believing them. Sypher even did jail time over her extortion attempt & she's still touted as a credible witness. The fact that it was a "minute handful" isn't surprising either, the rest doesn't want to rat out their school.

Furthermore the NCAA has previously punished universities for having people NOT cooperate with an investigation, NC had 2. Why wasn't NC punished for them not cooperating like they have done to others in the past?

Let's look around the country. You have a player at NC State being declared ineligible for going to class on the same day as NC getting off from a decade of falsifying grades. Elsewhere you have universities being penalized for giving walkons a lunch discount, allowing students athletes to sleep on dorm couches when they arrived early & this nitpicking goes on everywhere & yet NC gets away with years of falsifying grades when they have direct evidence of it in form of an email? Yeah, nothing to see here X.


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(10-15-2017 09:36 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-15-2017 12:59 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  Put the NCAA aside for a moment, SACS is just as worthless & they undeniably had the power & right to pull NC accreditation & yet only gave them a year probation. It's all a sham! Neither has a shred of credibility.


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They should have given them more than a year, but yanking the probation is pretty close to a death penalty. No student loans. Its a pretty extreme measure.

Yeah, I wouldn't have yanked their accreditation initially without having a probationary period first but 1 year was far to light.


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