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(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

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I've seen Cincinnati in a bunch of Top 10 to Top 15 rankings. Combine that with Wichita's injuries, and I don't really think you have a place to complain or feel slighted.
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(10-16-2017 10:16 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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I've seen Cincinnati in a bunch of Top 10 to Top 15 rankings. Combine that with Wichita's injuries, and I don't really think you have a place to complain or feel slighted.
As a person who doesn't really have a problem with this poll...

Why should the injuries come into play? If you're going to the effort to know WSU has injured players when making your poll, then you also know that those players are expected back before league play begins. That logic doesn't hold water.
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(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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For the record, Cincinnati has a few top 10s as well and mainly in the mid teens. UC is always disrespected in the preseason polls and rarely seem to get ranked and then wind up in the top 20 when the season ends.

WSU is a very good team, but I do think you will feel the pinch of the new conference. There are a lot of teams that are in the middle or bottom half that will have the talent or scheme to beat anyone, so you can't have a day off and UC and WSU will get everyone's best shot. Good luck and I do think it will be a heck of a battle for the title (And don't sleep on UCF).
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RE: 2017-2018 AAC Basketball Media Days (with Preseason Coaches Poll / Awards)
(10-16-2017 10:16 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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I've seen Cincinnati in a bunch of Top 10 to Top 15 rankings. Combine that with Wichita's injuries, and I don't really think you have a place to complain or feel slighted.

Have you seen Cincy ranked ahead of Wichita State in any other preseason poll besides the AAC?


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Tulsa's Junior Etou gets 2nd team consideration yet Tulsa is picked 8th in the conference. That seems really odd to me. I think we finish 5th overall. (We almost finished 5th last year)
10-16-2017 10:32 AM
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(10-16-2017 10:19 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:16 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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I've seen Cincinnati in a bunch of Top 10 to Top 15 rankings. Combine that with Wichita's injuries, and I don't really think you have a place to complain or feel slighted.
As a person who doesn't really have a problem with this poll...

Why should the injuries come into play? If you're going to the effort to know WSU has injured players when making your poll, then you also know that those players are expected back before league play begins. That logic doesn't hold water.

Of course coaches are going to (as they should) take starters' current injuries into account. Even if the injured players return before league play, they will have missed the entire preseason and potentially part of or the entire OOC. That's a disadvantage, no matter how you look at it.
10-16-2017 10:33 AM
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(10-16-2017 10:32 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Tulsa's Junior Etou gets 2nd team consideration yet Tulsa is picked 8th in the conference. That seems really odd to me. I think we finish 5th overall. (We almost finished 5th last year)

I think 3-8 is crazy-hard to predict. Could really come down to in-conference schedule strength and who is injured when, with the teams that finish in the upper half of that pile dancing, and the teams in the lower half of that pile very sad. This poll has UConn a little higher than I would pick them. I think they are the big wildcard in that middle group. High ceiling/low floor depending on how quickly things come together for them.
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(10-16-2017 10:22 AM)BigDawg Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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For the record, Cincinnati has a few top 10s as well and mainly in the mid teens. UC is always disrespected in the preseason polls and rarely seem to get ranked and then wind up in the top 20 when the season ends.

WSU is a very good team, but I do think you will feel the pinch of the new conference. There are a lot of teams that are in the middle or bottom half that will have the talent or scheme to beat anyone, so you can't have a day off and UC and WSU will get everyone's best shot. Good luck and I do think it will be a heck of a battle for the title (And don't sleep on UCF).

Nothing against Cincy. Wichita State was ranked #1 in the country by ESPN.

I'm wondering now if Marshall paid to have a few votes thrown Cincy's way. He's notorious for trying to control optimism in the locker room. Being picked #2 in THIS league smacks of manipulation - manipulation that is totally in our favor BTW. It just looks silly to the national media. Right now they're like:

ESPN
[Image: 200.webp#1-grid1]

CBS
[Image: 200w.webp#3-grid1]


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(10-16-2017 10:33 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:19 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:16 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


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I've seen Cincinnati in a bunch of Top 10 to Top 15 rankings. Combine that with Wichita's injuries, and I don't really think you have a place to complain or feel slighted.
As a person who doesn't really have a problem with this poll...

Why should the injuries come into play? If you're going to the effort to know WSU has injured players when making your poll, then you also know that those players are expected back before league play begins. That logic doesn't hold water.

Of course coaches are going to (as they should) take starters' current injuries into account. Even if the injured players return before league play, they will have missed the entire preseason and potentially part of or the entire OOC. That's a disadvantage, no matter how you look at it.

Or, it's wishful thinking. A RS Sophomore returning in mid-November isn't likely to still be shaking off cobwebs in January.
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(10-16-2017 10:39 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:22 AM)BigDawg Wrote:  
(10-16-2017 10:09 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Of course we were slighted. Nearly every preseason publication has Wichita State as a top 10 team and Cincy as merely top 25. If the ChicKUns were in this league (we are ranked ahead of them in some preseason polls), people would be like WTF? Well... there is no diference between WSU and KU this year except for branding - end of story.

Like I said, thanks for the motivation. Marshall will make this conference pay. I predict he will be liked about as much in the AAC as he was in the MVC, Big South, etc... If it's not salary envy, it will be W/L envy or national popularity envy. If it's neither of those it will be because Gregg Marshall sometimes just comes off like a dick.

I wouldn't have it any other way.


T


...03-cool

For the record, Cincinnati has a few top 10s as well and mainly in the mid teens. UC is always disrespected in the preseason polls and rarely seem to get ranked and then wind up in the top 20 when the season ends.

WSU is a very good team, but I do think you will feel the pinch of the new conference. There are a lot of teams that are in the middle or bottom half that will have the talent or scheme to beat anyone, so you can't have a day off and UC and WSU will get everyone's best shot. Good luck and I do think it will be a heck of a battle for the title (And don't sleep on UCF).

Nothing against Cincy. Wichita State was ranked #1 in the country by ESPN.

I'm wondering now if Marshall paid to have a few votes thrown Cincy's way. He's notorious for trying to control optimism in the locker room. Being picked #2 in THIS league smacks of manipulation - manipulation that is totally in our favor BTW. It just looks silly to the national media. Right now they're like:

ESPN
[Image: 200.webp#1-grid1]

CBS
[Image: 200w.webp#3-grid1]


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Just wait until you meet Gary Clark.

Mick Cronin will be breast feeding Greg Marshall by the end of the season.
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