I will preface this by saying that I think this has the remotest of possibilities of occurring but I still think it's worth discussing:

The Pac 12 seems to struggle at two big things--getting a decent tv contact and putting teams in the playoffs. They've always enjoyed a close relationship with the Big Ten and Jim Delaney has always been interested in earning a buck any way possible. What if the Big Ten expanded its footprint and its BTN empire by hauling in the AAU schools from the Pac 12--Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA. Arizona, and Colorado.

Does that bring in enough added revenue to justify a bold venture? It adds a ton of subscription fees in 5 western states, all with decent populations, and a marriage of two groups of schools that have long been enamored with one another. I think the Pac schools could pull this off as they'd represent two thirds of the conference membership and could pressure the other 4 to let them leave with a settlement as opposed to those 8 voting to disband the conference. The Big 12 could swoop in to add Utah, Washington St, Oregon St, and Arizona St if they saw fit or that group of 4 raids the MWC and BYU to get to 10 members and exists as a tweener conference.

The Big Ten devises a pod system for scheduling to make it work with 22 schools.

It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

(10-23-2017 05:37 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

Geography and minor sports are why this move is not very likely. If it every happens however it would be to 20 and Colorado would no longer be grouped with the 5 more West Coast schools that would be selected.

No.

(10-23-2017 05:37 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

I have fantasized about the SEC and B1G both growing to 24 members.

In my dreams, this is how it looks (added teams in bold):

SEC East: Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, UNC, Virginia and Virginia Tech

SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Florida St, Georgia Tech, and Clemson

SEC West: Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St and Kansas


B1G East: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana and Purdue

B1G Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and Utah

B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St

That leaves the ACC with Duke, Pitt, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville and West Virginia, with Notre Dame all sports except football.

The Big 12 is left with Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas St and Iowa St, which they supplement by adding Houston, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa.

As long as we're dreaming big.

(10-23-2017 01:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 05:37 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

I have fantasized about the SEC and B1G both growing to 24 members.

In my dreams, this is how it looks (added teams in bold):

SEC East: Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, UNC, Virginia and Virginia Tech

SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Florida St, Georgia Tech, and Clemson

SEC West: Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St and Kansas


B1G East: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana and Purdue

B1G Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and Utah

B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St

That leaves the ACC with Duke, Pitt, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville and West Virginia, with Notre Dame all sports except football.

The Big 12 is left with Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas St and Iowa St, which they supplement by adding Houston, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa.

As long as we're dreaming big.

I've got to admit that I love that fantasy SEC of yours. B1G's pretty nice too.

(10-23-2017 02:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 01:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 05:37 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

I have fantasized about the SEC and B1G both growing to 24 members.

In my dreams, this is how it looks (added teams in bold):

SEC East: Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, UNC, Virginia and Virginia Tech

SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Florida St, Georgia Tech, and Clemson

SEC West: Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St and Kansas


B1G East: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana and Purdue

B1G Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and Utah

B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St

That leaves the ACC with Duke, Pitt, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville and West Virginia, with Notre Dame all sports except football.

The Big 12 is left with Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas St and Iowa St, which they supplement by adding Houston, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa.

As long as we're dreaming big.

I've got to admit that I love that fantasy SEC of yours. B1G's pretty nice too.

It's not half bad is it.

The SEC gets pretty much the entire southern half of the country and the B1G gets the coast to coast northern swath. What's left is picked up between the ACC and XII. I could live with that.

Now if we could only keep the little brothers in the AAC from bellering like a cow giving birth.....

(10-23-2017 03:22 PM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 02:21 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 01:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  I have fantasized about the SEC and B1G both growing to 24 members.

In my dreams, this is how it looks (added teams in bold):

SEC East: Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, UNC, Virginia and Virginia Tech

SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Florida St, Georgia Tech, and Clemson

SEC West: Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St and Kansas


B1G East: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana and Purdue

B1G Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and Utah

B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St

That leaves the ACC with Duke, Pitt, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville and West Virginia, with Notre Dame all sports except football.

The Big 12 is left with Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas St and Iowa St, which they supplement by adding Houston, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa.

As long as we're dreaming big.

I've got to admit that I love that fantasy SEC of yours. B1G's pretty nice too.

It's not half bad is it.

The SEC gets pretty much the entire southern half of the country and the B1G gets the coast to coast northern swath. What's left is picked up between the ACC and XII. I could live with that.

Now if we could only keep the little brothers in the AAC from bellering like a cow giving birth.....

I'd go 4X6 for the expanded SEC and B1G and 4X5 for the expanded ACC/B12:

SEC

SEC NORTH/ATLANTIC:Florida St, Georgia Tech, Clemson, UNC, Virginia, Virginia Tech

SEC EAST: Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, South Carolina, Vanderbilt, Kentucky

SEC SOUTH: LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Alabama, Auburn,

SEC WEST: Missouri, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Kansas


B1G
B1G EAST: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers

B1G NORTH: Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin

B1G SOUTH: Arizona, Arizona St, Colorado, Utah, Nebraska, Iowa

B1G WEST: Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Washington, Oregon

10-game conference schedule; 5 divisional opponents and then rotate 5 games through the other 18 schools, with some preference to rivalries and regionalism.

ACC/B12
ATLANTIC: Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Louisville, Miami
COASTAL: Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt, West Virginia, UConn
SOUTH: Kansas St, Iowa St, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech
WEST: Colorado St., BYU, New Mexico, Houston, Memphis
*Notre Dame Olympic sports only. Football affiliation for bowls and 4 football games.

In my dream, each of these two mega-conferences stage an 8 team conference playoff, consisting of the top 2 teams in each division plus the two highest ranked teams not in the top 2. They play 2 rounds, producing 2 semifinalists each.

The four semifinalists play on New Year's in the Sugar and Rose Bowl, with the final game at Jerry World.

Then, let the Coaches vote for whomever they want as #1 in the final poll. If that is someone not among those 16 teams, then so be it. If that team performed well enough to impress the coaches more than the survivor of that playoff, they deserve to call themselves national champions.

This is my dream.

I would say expand the season to 13 games having each conference play 10 conference games. Games against the FCS no longer would count toward bowl eligibility for the P4 and only one FCS win would count for the G4.

Instead of playing a small conference tournament to get a conference champ all division champs from the P4 play for the national championship. Seed each division winner based on rank. First two rounds at the higher ranked school, last two rounds at a neutral site. 3 games rotated between the Rose, Sugar and Orange Bowls. 4 wins gets you the College Football Championship. 16 teams get a shot, four teams per conference no one can complain at that point about being left out. (Well except the G4 but no one cares now.)

B1G:

East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, Cuse, Virginia

West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa

South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State

North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU

SEC:

East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC

West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou

South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU

North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT

Pac-20:

East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU

West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii

South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV

North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.

ACC:

East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy

West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU

South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF

North- BC, Pitt, UConn, Temple, Army

AAC:

East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State

West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State

South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU

North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga

MWC:

East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Colorado St

West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego

South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada

North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St

CUSA:

East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky

West- Troy, So. Alabama, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette

South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern

North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin

MAC:

East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine

West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Ball State

South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron

North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green

(10-23-2017 01:13 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 05:37 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  It would be hard for the Big Ten to go beyond 20 members. Even with total deregulation of the conference championship game, the conference would realistically be looking at 10 conference games in football (4 from your pod, and 2 from each of the other 3 pods), and 22 conference games in basketball.

If the Big 10 wanted to go to 24 members, you'd figure that some non-Pac 12 schools are coming along, namely Texas and Oklahoma:

Pacific - Washington, Oregon, California, UCLA, USC, Stanford
West - Arizona State, Colorado, Oklahoma, Texas, Nebraska, Iowa
North - Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue
East - Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers

You might be able to push to 28 with Virginia, North Carolina, Florida State, and Georgia Tech, but this would tie up the entire 12 game schedule. It might be more palatable to push to 32 with a ten game conference schedule, as at least everyone could play each other every four years.

The only way I see that being realistic is a complete break from Division I, if not the NCAA itself. It would probably also mean the SEC is going to 24 or more as well, and the SEC and Big Ten would likely create an eight team playoff among their division champs.

I have fantasized about the SEC and B1G both growing to 24 members.

In my dreams, this is how it looks (added teams in bold):

SEC East: Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia, Florida, UNC, Virginia and Virginia Tech

SEC Central: Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Mississippi St, Vanderbilt, Florida St, Georgia Tech, and Clemson

SEC West: Missouri, LSU, Arkansas, Texas A&M, Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St and Kansas


B1G East: Penn St, Ohio St, Michigan, Michigan St, Maryland, Rutgers, Indiana and Purdue

B1G Central: Illinois, Northwestern, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Nebraska, Colorado and Utah

B1G West: Washington, Oregon, Stanford, California, USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona St

That leaves the ACC with Duke, Pitt, Miami, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College, Syracuse, Louisville and West Virginia, with Notre Dame all sports except football.

The Big 12 is left with Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, Kansas St and Iowa St, which they supplement by adding Houston, SMU, Memphis and Tulsa.

As long as we're dreaming big.

I like your 3 division Big Ten but you have 2 non-AAU schools in there: Utah and Ariz St. Maybe you could swap them out for Kansas and Missouri (Colorado slides over with the West Coast schools). Two of: Texas Tech, Miami, Duke, WVU, and Louisville now get into the SEC.

4 Pac 12 leftovers merge with the Big 12 leftovers/Houston & SMU. ACC takes AAC schools or maybe all the leftovers try to form their own national organization too.

(10-22-2017 08:45 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I will preface this by saying that I think this has the remotest of possibilities of occurring but I still think it's worth discussing:

The Pac 12 seems to struggle at two big things--getting a decent tv contact and putting teams in the playoffs. They've always enjoyed a close relationship with the Big Ten and Jim Delaney has always been interested in earning a buck any way possible. What if the Big Ten expanded its footprint and its BTN empire by hauling in the AAU schools from the Pac 12--Washington, Oregon, Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA. Arizona, and Colorado.

Does that bring in enough added revenue to justify a bold venture? It adds a ton of subscription fees in 5 western states, all with decent populations, and a marriage of two groups of schools that have long been enamored with one another. I think the Pac schools could pull this off as they'd represent two thirds of the conference membership and could pressure the other 4 to let them leave with a settlement as opposed to those 8 voting to disband the conference. The Big 12 could swoop in to add Utah, Washington St, Oregon St, and Arizona St if they saw fit or that group of 4 raids the MWC and BYU to get to 10 members and exists as a tweener conference.

The Big Ten devises a pod system for scheduling to make it work with 22 schools.

They would have to do some sort of pod with 20.
West-UW, USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal
Plains-Colorado, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Central-Ohio St., Michigan, Michigan St., Indiana, Purdue
East-Illinois, NW, Penn St., Rutgers, Maryland

That's not out of the realm of possibility.

24 to the west doesn't work very well. Who goes west with Nebraska? Don't think any of the 10 older Big 10 members would be willing. Maybe they do a full merger and have 2 conferences under one umbrella, one of 14 and one of 12 or simply two of 14, adding 2 schools with Nebraska going either way depending on who the two were.

How about this? The Big Ten takes the 8 AAU schools from the Pac-12 and raids the ACC for UNC and UVA.

Big Ten Conference
Atlantic: Maryland, North Carolina, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia
Midwest: Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue
Central: Arizona, Colorado, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Pacific: California, Oregon, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Washington
Protected crossover: Michigan/Ohio State

Meanwhile, the SEC helps itself to the prime properties of the ACC and Big 12.

Southeastern Conference
East: Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina
North: Kentucky, Louisville, NC State, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Virginia Tech
South: Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
West: Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M
Protected crossovers: Alabama/Tennessee, Auburn/Georgia

I'm thinking a 13-game regular season: 5 vs. division, 2 vs. each of 3 other divisions, and 2 at-large. That means a team can play its entire conference in 3 years, with a few exceptions caused by protected crossovers. Conference championships are between the 4 division champs in each conference. Then the Big Ten and SEC champs face off in a "College Super Bowl."

The remnants of the ACC and Big 12 merge with the American to form a reborn ACC superconference, while the Pac-12 rejects merge with the MWC to form the Pac-16.

Atlantic Coast Conference
East: Central Florida, Duke, East Carolina, Miami-FL, South Florida, Wake Forest
North: Boston College, Connecticut, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
South: Baylor, Houston, Navy, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech
West: Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas State, Memphis, Tulane, Tulsa

Pac-16 Conference
Mountain North: Air Force, Boise State, Colorado State, Wyoming
Mountain South: Arizona State, New Mexico, Utah, Utah State
Pacific North: Nevada, Oregon State, UNLV, Washington State
Pacific South: Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State

Notable independents: Army, BYU, Notre Dame

Notable annual OOC matchups: Arizona/Arizona State, Army/Navy, BYU/Utah, Colorado/Colorado State, Duke/North Carolina, Florida State/Miami-FL, Iowa/Iowa State, Kansas/Kansas State, Navy/Notre Dame, NC State/North Carolina, Notre Dame/Stanford, Notre Dame/USC, Oregon/Oregon State, Penn State/Pittsburgh, Virginia/Virginia Tech, Washington/Washington State

Unlikely, but not entirely implausible. Of course, if this all were to ever happen, it would have to be around the time the ACC's current GoR expires in 2035-36 at the earliest.

B1G
Much better to divide the B1G into 3 divisions of 8 OR 6 divisions of 4:

Atlantic: Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan, Michigan State, Rutgers, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
Midwest: Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Pacific: California, Stanford, UCLA, USC, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado

OR

Atlantic: Rutgers, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia
North: Ohio State, Penn State, , Michigan, Michigan State
Midwest: Indiana, Purdue, Northwestern, Illinois,
Central: Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
West: Oregon, Washington, Arizona, Colorado
Pacific: California, Stanford, UCLA, USC

SEC
For the SEC, put together Atlantic and East divisions:

Atlantic: Clemson, Louisville, NC State, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech
East: Kentucky, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Vanderbilt, South Carolina
South: Alabama, Auburn, Arkansas, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss
West: Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M

Protected rivalries: Clemson-SC, Florida-FSU, Louisville-Kentucky, Georgia-Georgia Tech, Alabama-Tennessee, Georgia-Auburn. An expanded conference schedule provides plenty of room for the protected rivalries.

PAC 15

The PAC 16 needs some work. I don't see the legacy PAC 12 schools in the same conference as Utah St. and SJSU. So, we go with the PAC 15:

North: Oregon State, Washington State, Utah, BYU, Boise State
South: Arizona State, Nevada, UNLV, Fresno State, San Diego State
Mountain: Air Force, Colorado State, New Mexico, Wyoming, Hawaii

[Though, I could see ASU request to be with the North division and potentially move Boise St. to the Mountain and Hawaii to the South].

I do like the East/Central/West distribution of the Big Ten in your setup. I think it could be applied to the SEC too.

Big Ten
East: Maryland, North Carolina, Rutgers, Virginia / Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State
Central: Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern, Purdue / Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
West: Arizona, Colorado, Oregon, Washington / California, Stanford, UCLA, USC

SEC
East: Clemson, NC State, South Carolina, Virginia Tech / Florida, Florida State, Georgia, Georgia Tech
Central: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi State, Ole Miss / Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
West: Arkansas, Kansas, LSU, Missouri / Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M

13-game regular season: 7 vs. division, 2 vs. each of the 2 other divisions, and 2 at-large. A team can play its entire conference in 4 years. Conference championships are between the 3 division champs and a wild card. The Big Ten and SEC champs face off in a "College Super Bowl."

Alternately, there could be six 4-team divisions (as indicated by the slashes). 13-game season: 3 vs. division, 2 vs. each of 3 other divisions, 1 vs. each of 2 other divisions, 2 at-large. Conference championships are messy.

Here's an alternate 3-division alignment for the reborn mega-ACC:

ACC
North: Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Temple, West Virginia
South: Central Florida, Duke, East Carolina, Memphis, Miami-FL, South Florida, Tulane, Wake Forest
West: Baylor, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas State, SMU, TCU, Texas Tech, Tulsa

And for the Pac-15 (or 18):

Pac-15 (18)
East: Air Force, Arizona State, Colorado State, New Mexico, Wyoming (+ UTEP)
Central: Boise State, BYU, Nevada, UNLV, Utah (+ Utah State)
West: Fresno State, Hawaii, Oregon State, San Diego State, Washington State (+ San Jose State)

Maybe the ACC and the Pac would have their own bowl between conference champs.

I don't think it is feasible. It is tough enough for a teams that only play 1 day/week to travel through 4 time zones but when you start talking about teams that play 2-3 times per week it would be a nightmare.

(10-25-2017 04:13 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  I don't think it is feasible. It is tough enough for a teams that only play 1 day/week to travel through 4 time zones but when you start talking about teams that play 2-3 times per week it would be a nightmare.

I think the logistics could workout fine. With travel partners, you could easily manage travel.

For instance, in basketball, Arizona could play 14 games against its division (similar to the current PAC 12 schedule) and then 6 games against the rest of the conference. That's only 3 road games out of the division. And 2 of those out-of-division road games could be played on a Thurs-Sat or Fri-Sun road trip. Or may be even one Thurs-Sat-Mon road trip.

(10-24-2017 05:53 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  13-game regular season: 7 vs. division, 2 vs. each of the 2 other divisions, and 2 at-large. A team can play its entire conference in 4 years. Conference championships are between the 3 division champs and a wild card. The Big Ten and SEC champs face off in a "College Super Bowl."

Too inclusive to have just the B1G and SEC determine the national champion.

This is why the P4 is more likely, with the CFP morphing into the champs of the expanded B1G and PAC meeting in the Rose Bowl and the champs of the expanded SEC and ACC/B12 meeting in the Orange or Sugar Bowl. THEN, Rose Bowl and Orange/Sugar Bowl winners play for the national championship.

(10-25-2017 05:58 PM)YNot Wrote:  

(10-24-2017 05:53 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  13-game regular season: 7 vs. division, 2 vs. each of the 2 other divisions, and 2 at-large. A team can play its entire conference in 4 years. Conference championships are between the 3 division champs and a wild card. The Big Ten and SEC champs face off in a "College Super Bowl."

Too inclusive to have just the B1G and SEC determine the national champion.

This is why the P4 is more likely, with the CFP morphing into the champs of the expanded B1G and PAC meeting in the Rose Bowl and the champs of the expanded SEC and ACC/B12 meeting in the Orange or Sugar Bowl. THEN, Rose Bowl and Orange/Sugar Bowl winners play for the national championship.

The scenario I'm talking about is where the Big Ten and SEC have gutted the Pac, Big 12, and ACC to become the definitive "P2" conferences.

The none AAU schools would be left behind..