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How Football Saved The ACC
Surprised I didn't see this here...lot of good history in this.

https://accsports.com/acc-news/david-gle...saved-acc/
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Thanks Lou_C, good find.
It's interesting to see that multiple schools have turned down more financially lucrative opportunities to stay together.
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Thanks, Lou! I guess now we have confirmation that UVA, UNC and GT all turned down the Big Ten - which is somewhat comforting to the rest of the ACC.

Also good to see them admit they were "asleep at the wheel" when Penn State joined the Big Ten. Fortunately for them they woke up in time to get FSU, Miami, VT, etc.!
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This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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"“To be honest, we (the ACC) were asleep at the wheel,” Corrigan said. “With the benefit of hindsight, I know that may sound outrageous, but it’s the truth. We were absolutely stunned by the Penn State announcement." - ACCSports

"According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer.
I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989." - PennLive

So it looks like Corrigan was taken by surprise, called PSU to see if there was any way he could convince them to decline the Big Ten and give him a chance to talk the ACC presidents into extending an invitation of their own...

...I'd call that "a day late and a dollar* short".

* OK, way more than one dollar.
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(11-03-2017 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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"“To be honest, we (the ACC) were asleep at the wheel,” Corrigan said. “With the benefit of hindsight, I know that may sound outrageous, but it’s the truth. We were absolutely stunned by the Penn State announcement." - ACCSports

"According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer.
I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989." - PennLive

So it looks like Corrigan was taken by surprise, called PSU to see if there was any way he could convince them to decline the Big Ten and give him a chance to talk the ACC presidents into extending an invitation of their own...

...I'd call that "a day late and a dollar* short".

* OK, way more than one dollar.

Here's a quote from another article. Link

Quote:Corrigan clearly wanted the Nittany Lions in the ACC: '“[Penn State] should have been with us,” Corrigan said. “Geographically and everything else made sense."' Corrigan says he pushed to try to add Penn State, "but there didn’t seem to be a strong interest by the rest of the league."

It sounds like the B10 ADs didn't want PSU. So there was an opportunity for the ACC to at least try and land them but the mucky mucks didn't want them.
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RE: How Football Saved The ACC
(11-04-2017 01:53 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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"“To be honest, we (the ACC) were asleep at the wheel,” Corrigan said. “With the benefit of hindsight, I know that may sound outrageous, but it’s the truth. We were absolutely stunned by the Penn State announcement." - ACCSports

"According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer.
I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989." - PennLive

So it looks like Corrigan was taken by surprise, called PSU to see if there was any way he could convince them to decline the Big Ten and give him a chance to talk the ACC presidents into extending an invitation of their own...

...I'd call that "a day late and a dollar* short".

* OK, way more than one dollar.

Here's a quote from another article. Link

Quote:Corrigan clearly wanted the Nittany Lions in the ACC: '“[Penn State] should have been with us,” Corrigan said. “Geographically and everything else made sense."' Corrigan says he pushed to try to add Penn State, "but there didn’t seem to be a strong interest by the rest of the league."

It sounds like the B10 ADs didn't want PSU. So there was an opportunity for the ACC to at least try and land them but the mucky mucks didn't want them.

At any rate, it would be a different college football world with Penn State in the ACC. Too bad...
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ACC needs to reach 16 teams. Notre Dame plus ???. PSU, Tennessee, Texas, West Virginia or Connecticut? 07-coffee3
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RE: How Football Saved The ACC
(11-04-2017 02:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 01:53 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 09:33 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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"“To be honest, we (the ACC) were asleep at the wheel,” Corrigan said. “With the benefit of hindsight, I know that may sound outrageous, but it’s the truth. We were absolutely stunned by the Penn State announcement." - ACCSports

"According to the man who was then commissioner of the Atlantic Coast Conference, he would have done everything in his considerable power to convince his league's university presidents that inviting Penn State was a no-brainer.
I first heard this story from then-Penn State athletics director Jim Tarman back in 1994. He told me that Corrigan called him shortly after PSU's stunning invitation to the league became public on Dec. 14, 1989." - PennLive

So it looks like Corrigan was taken by surprise, called PSU to see if there was any way he could convince them to decline the Big Ten and give him a chance to talk the ACC presidents into extending an invitation of their own...

...I'd call that "a day late and a dollar* short".

* OK, way more than one dollar.

Here's a quote from another article. Link

Quote:Corrigan clearly wanted the Nittany Lions in the ACC: '“[Penn State] should have been with us,” Corrigan said. “Geographically and everything else made sense."' Corrigan says he pushed to try to add Penn State, "but there didn’t seem to be a strong interest by the rest of the league."

It sounds like the B10 ADs didn't want PSU. So there was an opportunity for the ACC to at least try and land them but the mucky mucks didn't want them.

At any rate, it would be a different college football world with Penn State in the ACC. Too bad...

Sorry for the confusion. I wasn't questioning that the ACC was surprised by the Penn State announcement, just saying that Corrigan did try (after the B10 announcement) but the ACC presidents were not interested.
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I would have said Georgia Tech's decision to stay in the ACC despite less money was wise. But after UNC skated on total academic fraud -- and we still don't see the ACC moving to punish UNC for that -- perhaps there is something to the NC mafia complaints after all. If UNC does skate all way home, then this league is totally rotten to the very top, and GT should pick up phone and call Birmingham. If they receive no answer, the next phone call should be to *shudder* Park Ridge, IL. I'd rather play a bunch of Yankees than in a league that doesn't punish *organized academic FRAUD*.
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(11-04-2017 03:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I would have said Georgia Tech's decision to stay in the ACC despite less money was wise. But after UNC skated on total academic fraud -- and we still don't see the ACC moving to punish UNC for that -- perhaps there is something to the NC mafia complaints after all. If UNC does skate all way home, then this league is totally rotten to the very top, and GT should pick up phone and call Birmingham. If they receive no answer, the next phone call should be to *shudder* Park Ridge, IL. I'd rather play a bunch of Yankees than in a league that doesn't punish *organized academic FRAUD*.

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(11-04-2017 04:04 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 03:39 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  I would have said Georgia Tech's decision to stay in the ACC despite less money was wise. But after UNC skated on total academic fraud -- and we still don't see the ACC moving to punish UNC for that -- perhaps there is something to the NC mafia complaints after all. If UNC does skate all way home, then this league is totally rotten to the very top, and GT should pick up phone and call Birmingham. If they receive no answer, the next phone call should be to *shudder* Park Ridge, IL. I'd rather play a bunch of Yankees than in a league that doesn't punish *organized academic FRAUD*.

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The best thing the Heels can do is take one for the team and self-impose hard and tell Swofford to add some wrist slaps that sound good marketing wise.

UNC has out-filth'ed UGA. You gotta try really hard to out-filth UGA.
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05-stirthepot I love in-fighting. 07-coffee3
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(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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Gene Corrigan tried to push ND into the ACC for years, too.
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(11-06-2017 03:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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Gene Corrigan tried to push ND into the ACC for years, too.

Be patient TerryD....you'll get there.
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One nit with the article -- he references the Supreme Court decision as breaking up the CFA's selling of tv rights for being anticompetitive. It was the NCAA that was exercising a monopoly on tv rights. The CFA was a large group of schools (Big 8, SEC, SWC and most major independents) who sold their rights collectively after the court decision.
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(11-06-2017 03:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 03:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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Gene Corrigan tried to push ND into the ACC for years, too.

Be patient TerryD....you'll get there.

Nah, sorry.
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(11-06-2017 07:01 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 03:54 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(11-06-2017 03:25 PM)TerryD Wrote:  
(11-03-2017 06:33 PM)Wolfman Wrote:  This article says Corrigan tried to talk the ACC presidents to adding PSU.

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Gene Corrigan tried to push ND into the ACC for years, too.

Be patient TerryD....you'll get there.

Nah, sorry.

It will happen. 07-coffee3
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