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Newest wrinkle in the UNC scandal
UNC is up for reaccreditation next month, so the infractions committee report is receiving fresh scrutiny...

Quote:UNC-Chapel Hill’s accreditor says it will look into statements the university made to an NCAA panel at an August hearing that showed support for classes at the heart of a long-running academic scandal that involved a disproportionate number of athletes.

Those statements, made behind closed doors in August and recently disclosed by the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions in its decision not to punish UNC, appear to contradict a promise UNC made four years ago to the accreditor that the classes would not be counted towards graduation.

The accreditor’s decision to review the statements stems from three passages in the NCAA’s decision that say the university stood by the classes hundreds of students took. The NCAA committee cited UNC’s backing of the classes for not sanctioning UNC because NCAA rules leave academic fraud determinations to universities.

The NCAA investigation was prompted by revelations about classes that never met, had no instruction and were created by a secretary who provided a high grade on papers she admitted not reading in full.

But UNC did not stand behind the classes in 2013 when the accrediting commission first looked into the scandal. UNC staved off sanctions from the accreditor by agreeing not to honor “paper” classes taken by students who needed them to graduate.

“It does raise the question of what did you really do?” said Belle Wheelan, president of the accreditor, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges, of UNC. “... and at worst we should probably ask that question.”

She said of the infractions committee report: “We’re working through the report. It says a lot, but it says nothing, so we are trying to ferret out what it actually says.”

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11-10-2017 10:11 AM
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(11-10-2017 10:11 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  UNC is up for reaccreditation next month, so the infractions committee report is receiving fresh scrutiny...

Quote:UNC-Chapel Hill’s accreditor says it will look into statements the university made to an NCAA panel at an August hearing that showed support for classes at the heart of a long-running academic scandal that involved a disproportionate number of athletes.

Those statements, made behind closed doors in August and recently disclosed by the NCAA’s Committee on Infractions in its decision not to punish UNC, appear to contradict a promise UNC made four years ago to the accreditor that the classes would not be counted towards graduation.

The accreditor’s decision to review the statements stems from three passages in the NCAA’s decision that say the university stood by the classes hundreds of students took. The NCAA committee cited UNC’s backing of the classes for not sanctioning UNC because NCAA rules leave academic fraud determinations to universities.

The NCAA investigation was prompted by revelations about classes that never met, had no instruction and were created by a secretary who provided a high grade on papers she admitted not reading in full.

But UNC did not stand behind the classes in 2013 when the accrediting commission first looked into the scandal. UNC staved off sanctions from the accreditor by agreeing not to honor “paper” classes taken by students who needed them to graduate.

“It does raise the question of what did you really do?” said Belle Wheelan, president of the accreditor, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools Commission on Colleges, of UNC. “... and at worst we should probably ask that question.”

She said of the infractions committee report: “We’re working through the report. It says a lot, but it says nothing, so we are trying to ferret out what it actually says."

Read more here:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/e...17756.html

Sounds like Inspector Clouseau is handling the inquiry.
11-10-2017 11:00 AM
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What difference can it make? SACS can force UNC to withhold credit for the courses but the NCAA matter is completed. UNC lied to the NCAA but the NCAA won't do anything about it. The COI knew at the time that UNC was lying and decided to pretend otherwise.
11-10-2017 11:03 AM
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The difference is athletes may have been ineligible because he/she didn't meet the required minimum credit hours. I believe you have to forfeit games if you use even 1 ineligible player.
11-10-2017 11:34 AM
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It's a Dan Kane story.
Most everything he originally wrote with Willingham has been debunked.
He is still trying to get some traction so that at least somebody other than Wolfpack Club members will by their book.
Yellow journalism at it's best.
11-10-2017 12:51 PM
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(11-10-2017 12:51 PM)XLance Wrote:  It's a Dan Kane story.
Most everything he originally wrote with Willingham has been debunked.
He is still trying to get some traction so that at least somebody other than Wolfpack Club members will by their book.
Yellow journalism at it's best.

Dont worry. Y'all are safe. The machine has won.
11-10-2017 01:05 PM
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11-10-2017 01:14 PM
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Newest wrinkle in the UNC scandal
(11-10-2017 01:05 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 12:51 PM)XLance Wrote:  It's a Dan Kane story.
Most everything he originally wrote with Willingham has been debunked.
He is still trying to get some traction so that at least somebody other than Wolfpack Club members will by their book.
Yellow journalism at it's best.

Dont worry. Y'all are safe. The machine has won.


Yeah, NC has proven that's it's to powerful to be punished. SACS may slap a year of probation on for appearances but no one is going to do anything towards NC no matter what they do. I believe NC is even playing the kid caught up in the FBI report that was in a bidding war between Miami & Arizona. The NCAA will find some reason to make him eligible even if all the others are deemed ineligible.


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The power of SACS:

University of North Carolina
Chapel Hill Community College.
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RE: Newest wrinkle in the UNC scandal
(11-10-2017 01:05 PM)Dasville Wrote:  
(11-10-2017 12:51 PM)XLance Wrote:  It's a Dan Kane story.
Most everything he originally wrote with Willingham has been debunked.
He is still trying to get some traction so that at least somebody other than Wolfpack Club members will by their book.
Yellow journalism at it's best.

Dont worry. Y'all are safe. The machine has won.

I don't like it. But I can't argue it.
11-10-2017 07:02 PM
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