(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

And another lie. I complained about OOC scheduling in the past, so only thing disingenuous are your lies that you have to tell to make it seem like you have a leg to stand on.

Keep on lying.

Pastner was scheduling the weakest OOC he could to get his 20+ wins. Does that make you feel better or you still going to lie about it?

(11-14-2017 11:24 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

Our schedule is pathetically weak, but i cannot imagine it being that weak.

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

How long have you had this problem with just pulling numbers out of your ass and posting them??

2012-13 our SOS was 51 and we had 31 wins
2013-14 our SOS was 24 and we had 23 wins
2014-15 our SOS was 68 and we had 18 wins
2015-16 our SOS was 113 and we had 19 wins
2016-17 our SOS was 120 and we had 19 wins.
2017-18 our projected SOS is 136.

(11-17-2017 01:16 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

How long have you had this problem with just pulling numbers out of your ass and posting them??

2012-13 our SOS was 51 and we had 31 wins
2013-14 our SOS was 24 and we had 23 wins
2014-15 our SOS was 68 and we had 18 wins
2015-16 our SOS was 113 and we had 19 wins
2016-17 our SOS was 120 and we had 19 wins.
2017-18 our projected SOS is 136.

Since you have the time, go back and find the pre-season SOS for each year if you want to tout equivalent stats. You can't use ending SOS for some years in comparison against the pre-season if you are attempting to make a valid comparison. But you have done one thing, prove the OOC schedule is weak & has been for years.

(11-14-2017 11:24 PM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  

You holdin?

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Atlanta, dude I get that you're a big fan but get off the Tubby train. It's completely off the tracks.

Just go look at who he dropped the latest offer on. Look at who else is recruiting the kid. May be a great end of the bench / practice player for a good team.

He's probably still a decent coach but he can't land ANY talent. Not even local talent.

The Tigers are going to get to the Louisville game anywhere form 8-1 to 6-3 ('Bama, Northern Kentucky, UAB being the only potential losses) and then Louisville is going to completely dismantle this team and decide how much they want to win by.

Between the last 2 years of Paz and these (going on) 2 years of Tubby, Tiger basketball is at a decades low point in terms of talent and attendance.

Tubby ran off more talent off last years team (plus turned down Nick King) than he's recruited in the past decade.

I don't know what Tubby thought he was getting into here and I don't know what the guys who hired him thought they were getting but I don't think anyone's happy at this point.

You have eyes and you can see what he's put on the floor.

Good teams have to stock up on good players. Great teams have great players. When you have equivalent talent levels is when coaching and scheme can make a difference. Beating teams that you outman doesn't mean anything other than acting as a shakedown cruise early in the season.

That was Paz's issue as evidenced by his 6-26 record against the Top 25. Tubby might be the greatest coach on earth but if he's can't get great players the ceiling will always be low; particularly by Memphis standards.

Bragging about a #158 RPI? Offering kids that are low D1 talent or 3-4 year projects? Please.

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-15-2017 04:35 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  Of course we will have 20 wins. Any coach worth having could get 20 wins with this schedule. Tubby is a great coach, he will get 20 wins.

Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Those werent OOC games.

This is the worst home OOC schedule I can remember. A bad LSU team is all we got.

Honestly the OCC is what it is. There's more that goes into than any of us know. It's not like you sit down and just pick who you want to play. I can't even begin to imagine what a headache that has to be for a team like Memphis. Esp in football, why would a good power 5 school want to play us? Doesn't make much sense.

(11-17-2017 11:18 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Those werent OOC games.

They weren't CUSA, so what were they? Cincy & Louisville moved to BE in 2005-06, the first yr covered on my listing..

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:19 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Where have you & your Tubby bashing buddies been on this all of a sudden weak schedule campaign? The OOC schedule has been bad since JP started doing the scheduling. And according to the stats you experts love, the Memphis schedule this year is marginally better this year compared to last - and that schedule better than the year prior. While I've been complaining about the weak OOC home schedule for years, all I have heard is we have to play that schedule to have the number of home games required in defense of JP - which of course is BS. Point is, beat up Tubby all you want on recruiting but when it comes to scheduling since you had nothing to say about JP scheduling, your complaining now is nothing but disingenuous.

You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Just a sampling of how dumb your examples are.

2005
- Marquette, DePaul and Louisville were in our conference, so this is as dumb as you can get when arguing OOC home schedules. We are down to Ole Piss and Providence...whoopee. Good start to a debate by lying through your teeth.

2006
- Purdue was 7-21 the year before they played us and 9-19 the year they played us, so it is dumb to use them as an example of a good OOC game. Gonzaga, UT and Texas is very good.

2007
Again, try and concentrate, stay focused on home OOC which is what you have been bitching about. Whatever gibberish you posted, Ole Piss was the only decent OOC game on our schedule...and they were coming off 3 seasons at 13-15, 14-17 and 14-16 before we played them.

2008
GREAT home schedule

2009
As dumb as an argument gets. The only decent home OOC game was Syracuse and this is coming off of Elite 8, Elite 8, Elite 8, Final Four with Cal as our coach. We still couldn't convince good programs to play us home and home.

Also, you know that your own argument is dumb because you conveniently stopped at 2005.

2004
- Missouri

2003
- Ole Piss and Illinois. Villanova hadn't been to the tournament the 3 years before playing us.

2002
- Tennessee, Arkansas

2001
- Ole Miss

So in Cal's 9 seasons we managed to play a really good OOC home schedule a grand total of twice. So you are still as confused and dishonest as ever.

If you want to argue which schedule had the most marquee opponents from 2001-2017, the winner hands down is Pastner's 2014 schedule which had 12 marquee opponents, with 5 of the games at home.

Oklahoma State (2)
Louisville (2)
Cincinnati (2)
UConn (2)
SMU (2)
Gonzaga
Florida

(11-17-2017 11:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:18 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Those werent OOC games.

They weren't CUSA, so what were they? Cincy & Louisville moved to BE in 2005-06, the first yr covered on my listing..

Nice try buddy.

(11-17-2017 12:08 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:18 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Those werent OOC games.

They weren't CUSA, so what were they? Cincy & Louisville moved to BE in 2005-06, the first yr covered on my listing..

Nice try buddy.

Nice try - my first year in the listing was 2005 (2005-06 season). Those are actual games scheduled those season. Get your head out of a$$ & look at the schedules.

(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 05:09 PM)memtigbb Wrote:  You don't care what kind of lie you tell, do you just make it up as you go along?

I defended Tubby last season about the schedule because it was basically pre-made by Pastner. A lot of scheduling is done years in advance, not overnight. I don't blame Tubby for how bad this schedule is, but that does not make it a good schedule..

Keep on telling your lies.

Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Just a sampling of how dumb your examples are.

2005
- Marquette, DePaul and Louisville were in our conference, so this is as dumb as you can get when arguing OOC home schedules. We are down to Ole Piss and Providence...whoopee. Good start to a debate by lying through your teeth.

2006
- Purdue was 7-21 the year before they played us and 9-19 the year they played us, so it is dumb to use them as an example of a good OOC game. Gonzaga, UT and Texas is very good.

2007
Again, try and concentrate, stay focused on home OOC which is what you have been bitching about. Whatever gibberish you posted, Ole Piss was the only decent OOC game on our schedule...and they were coming off 3 seasons at 13-15, 14-17 and 14-16 before we played them.

2008
GREAT home schedule

2009
As dumb as an argument gets. The only decent home OOC game was Syracuse and this is coming off of Elite 8, Elite 8, Elite 8, Final Four with Cal as our coach. We still couldn't convince good programs to play us home and home.

Also, you know that your own argument is dumb because you conveniently stopped at 2005.

2004
- Missouri

2003
- Ole Piss and Illinois. Villanova hadn't been to the tournament the 3 years before playing us.

2002
- Tennessee, Arkansas

2001
- Ole Miss

So in Cal's 9 seasons we managed to play a really good OOC home schedule a grand total of twice. So you are still as confused and dishonest as ever.

If you want to argue which schedule had the most marquee opponents from 2001-2017, the winner hands down is Pastner's 2014 schedule which had 12 marquee opponents, with 5 of the games at home.

Oklahoma State (2)
Louisville (2)
Cincinnati (2)
UConn (2)
SMU (2)
Gonzaga
Florida

I gave you a 5 year period - which of course you don't want to acknowledge. So you go to an earlier period when we had no need to schedule as strong OOC because Louisville & Cincy were in our conference. And your Pastner example - Louisville, Cincy, SMU, UConn were in-conference. Focus meathead - we are talking about OOC & how Calipari scheduled, your criteria. Again, I gave you a 5 yr period after the strength left CUSA. And you say, we can't schedule that way, even though I provided the actual schedule. And that compared to JP and since which even a biased observer would grant is very weak. That 2009 schedule you say is "dumb", we played UMass at home, then Seton Hall, Xavier & #19 Georgetown away, then #11 Syracuse, Cincy & Drexel at home, then later #18 Gonzaga away. Right, compare that "dumb" schedule to the last 5 yrs. But then you want to change the argument, change the period considered, then move to JP. Of course you won't stay focused, you asked & I answered with the schools Calipari scheduled for the most recent 5 yr period when he was our coach. It can be done, it has been done & I provided the examples.

And BTW, Louisville, Cincy, Marquette & DePaul were NOT in CUSA for the 2005 season (2005-2006 games played).

(11-17-2017 01:16 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 12:07 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Just a sampling of how dumb your examples are.

2005
- Marquette, DePaul and Louisville were in our conference, so this is as dumb as you can get when arguing OOC home schedules. We are down to Ole Piss and Providence...whoopee. Good start to a debate by lying through your teeth.

2006
- Purdue was 7-21 the year before they played us and 9-19 the year they played us, so it is dumb to use them as an example of a good OOC game. Gonzaga, UT and Texas is very good.

2007
Again, try and concentrate, stay focused on home OOC which is what you have been bitching about. Whatever gibberish you posted, Ole Piss was the only decent OOC game on our schedule...and they were coming off 3 seasons at 13-15, 14-17 and 14-16 before we played them.

2008
GREAT home schedule

2009
As dumb as an argument gets. The only decent home OOC game was Syracuse and this is coming off of Elite 8, Elite 8, Elite 8, Final Four with Cal as our coach. We still couldn't convince good programs to play us home and home.

Also, you know that your own argument is dumb because you conveniently stopped at 2005.

2004
- Missouri

2003
- Ole Piss and Illinois. Villanova hadn't been to the tournament the 3 years before playing us.

2002
- Tennessee, Arkansas

2001
- Ole Miss

So in Cal's 9 seasons we managed to play a really good OOC home schedule a grand total of twice. So you are still as confused and dishonest as ever.

If you want to argue which schedule had the most marquee opponents from 2001-2017, the winner hands down is Pastner's 2014 schedule which had 12 marquee opponents, with 5 of the games at home.

Oklahoma State (2)
Louisville (2)
Cincinnati (2)
UConn (2)
SMU (2)
Gonzaga
Florida

I gave you a 5 year period - which of course you don't want to acknowledge. So you go to an earlier period when we had no need to schedule as strong OOC because Louisville & Cincy were in our conference. And your Pastner example - Louisville, Cincy, SMU, UConn were in-conference. Focus meathead - we are talking about OOC & how Calipari scheduled, your criteria. Again, I gave you a 5 yr period after the strength left CUSA. And you say, we can't schedule that way, even though I provided the actual schedule. And that compared to JP and since which even a biased observer would grant is very weak. That 2009 schedule you say is "dumb", we played UMass at home, then Seton Hall, Xavier & #19 Georgetown away, then #11 Syracuse, Cincy & Drexel at home, then later #18 Gonzaga away. Right, compare that "dumb" schedule to the last 5 yrs. But then you want to change the argument, change the period considered, then move to JP. Of course you won't stay focused, you asked & I answered with the schools Calipari scheduled for the most recent 5 yr period when he was our coach. It can be done, it has been done & I provided the examples.

And BTW, Louisville, Cincy, Marquette & DePaul were NOT in CUSA for the 2005 season (2005-2006 games played).

It is a whole lot easier to schedule good teams when YOUR team is good in basketball...

Totally opposite for a non-P5 in football.

(11-17-2017 11:25 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:18 AM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:14 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 10:54 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 09:04 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Lies, what lies - you complain NOW about OOC scheduling that has been weak for 7 yrs. Disingenuous, as I said. And Stammer, you can repeat that nonsense over & over about why we have to have a weak OOC schedule but it's still nonsense. We played a number of years in the FedEx Forum under the same rules while Cal was the coach in CUSA after the BE defections but we had a much tougher OOC home schedule. It clearly can be done & we need the butts in the seats that some name opponents would bring. And BTW our AD agrees.

You seem to have the weird notion that we can schedule home and homes against any P5 power we want, any time we want. What your brain is unable to process is the simple concept that it is almost impossible to get good opponents, especially P5 opponents to play us home and home. How many good OOC home schedules did Cal play?

Just a sampling:

2005
Ole Miss, Providence, Marquette, DePaul & Louisville
2006
Gonzaga, Texas, UTK, Purdue
2007
Ole Miss, Cincinnati (with a very strong OOC away – UK, GT, OU, Gonzaga, Arizona)
2008
Georgetown, AZ, Gonzaga (all ranked) & UConn, OU among others away
2009
Syracuse, Cincinnati (Gonzaga, UTK, Seton Hall & Xavier away)

Those werent OOC games.

They weren't CUSA, so what were they? Cincy & Louisville moved to BE in 2005-06, the first yr covered on my listing..

We didnt play those teams in 2005-6. 2004-5 was that season.

The only reason there is so much arguing going on here over bull**** topics is because Tubby isn't getting it done, the team is average at best, there's no reinforcements on the way, and there's no way to get rid of Tubby.

The state of the program is laughable given the resources and facilities available to it; absolutely laughable.