(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

(11-18-2017 09:42 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

You guys are so unoriginal so as to steal your old nickname?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Underachievers? Yes. But we've largely owned up to our shortcomings and for sure have never done the "we would have won" if.

Oh, and as I already pointed out, that 2007 CUSA title is a laugher, since we hung a 60 burger on that "championship" team. That'd be like bragging about all of your I-AA titles or something.

USFFan

(11-18-2017 09:56 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:42 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

You guys are so unoriginal so as to steal your old nickname?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Underachievers? Yes. But we've largely owned up to our shortcomings and for sure have never done the "we would have won" if.

Oh, and as I already pointed out, that 2007 CUSA title is a laugher, since we hung a 60 burger on that "championship" team. That'd be like bragging about all of your I-AA titles or something.

USFFan

I always found it strange that USF fans nicknamed UCF "UCiF", given that USF has pretty much never accomplished anything in football while UCF has a trophy case full of championships and a Fiesta bowl trophy.

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:56 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:42 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

You guys are so unoriginal so as to steal your old nickname?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Underachievers? Yes. But we've largely owned up to our shortcomings and for sure have never done the "we would have won" if.

Oh, and as I already pointed out, that 2007 CUSA title is a laugher, since we hung a 60 burger on that "championship" team. That'd be like bragging about all of your I-AA titles or something.

USFFan

I always found it strange that USF fans nicknamed UCF "UCiF", given that USF has pretty much never accomplished anything in football while UCF has a trophy case full of championships and a Fiesta bowl trophy.

4 trophies is an interesting definition of the word "full," but OK (FWIW, we have plenty of bowl trophies, too, and conference championship trophies in every sport but football). As I posted elsewhere, that name stemmed from before those 4, when UCF fans always said you would win "if" only we would play, then excused it (some still are - "you wouldn't have beaten us 'if' we were in the same conference" even though that wasn't the original claim about beating us 'if' we weren't so scared to play you).

USFFan

2007 was a great year for USF until the late season collapse. it was great to be #2 for a bit though.

As a Temple fan, heading out to the Temple game shortly, I love the Knights fans obsession with USF, and hope the team is doing the same. Frost may be saying the right things, but is certainly distracted thinking about his upcoming $$ millions. UCF thinks they are unique, that they are different, that their players don’t overlook opponents, that their coach really really loves central Florida and its beaches (?) and will never leave because dynasty building. News flash: Temple, Houston, Memphis and yes USF have all had to deal with successful coaches preparing to leave. UCF is no different. Good luck today but of course I hope the Owls win.

(11-18-2017 10:11 AM)vick mike Wrote:  As a Temple fan, heading out to the Temple game shortly, I love the Knights fans obsession with USF, and hope the team is doing the same. Frost may be saying the right things, but is certainly distracted thinking about his upcoming $$ millions. UCF thinks they are unique, that they are different, that their players don’t overlook opponents, that their coach really really loves central Florida and its beaches (?) and will never leave because dynasty building. News flash: Temple, Houston, Memphis and yes USF have all had to deal with successful coaches preparing to leave. UCF is no different. Good luck today but of course I hope the Owls win.

Lol

(11-18-2017 10:09 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:56 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:42 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

You guys are so unoriginal so as to steal your old nickname?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Underachievers? Yes. But we've largely owned up to our shortcomings and for sure have never done the "we would have won" if.

Oh, and as I already pointed out, that 2007 CUSA title is a laugher, since we hung a 60 burger on that "championship" team. That'd be like bragging about all of your I-AA titles or something.

USFFan

I always found it strange that USF fans nicknamed UCF "UCiF", given that USF has pretty much never accomplished anything in football while UCF has a trophy case full of championships and a Fiesta bowl trophy.

4 trophies is an interesting definition of the word "full," but OK (FWIW, we have plenty of bowl trophies, too, and conference championship trophies in every sport but football). As I posted elsewhere, that name stemmed from before those 4, when UCF fans always said you would win "if" only we would play, then excused it (some still are - "you wouldn't have beaten us 'if' we were in the same conference" even though that wasn't the original claim about beating us 'if' we weren't so scared to play you).

USFFan

The fiesta bowl trophy is pretty big, but it’s not your fault you don’t know that.

Fun fact, usf is the only school never to have won a division nor conference title amongst current conference members.

(11-18-2017 10:55 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:09 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 10:05 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:56 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 09:42 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  Meh. Instead USF lost and UCF went on to win a more meaningful game than USF could ever dream. Also won the conference which USF had never been able to do either. This post is sad because it's the same old USiF script

You guys are so unoriginal so as to steal your old nickname?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

Underachievers? Yes. But we've largely owned up to our shortcomings and for sure have never done the "we would have won" if.

Oh, and as I already pointed out, that 2007 CUSA title is a laugher, since we hung a 60 burger on that "championship" team. That'd be like bragging about all of your I-AA titles or something.

USFFan

I always found it strange that USF fans nicknamed UCF "UCiF", given that USF has pretty much never accomplished anything in football while UCF has a trophy case full of championships and a Fiesta bowl trophy.

4 trophies is an interesting definition of the word "full," but OK (FWIW, we have plenty of bowl trophies, too, and conference championship trophies in every sport but football). As I posted elsewhere, that name stemmed from before those 4, when UCF fans always said you would win "if" only we would play, then excused it (some still are - "you wouldn't have beaten us 'if' we were in the same conference" even though that wasn't the original claim about beating us 'if' we weren't so scared to play you).

USFFan

The fiesta bowl trophy is pretty big, but it’s not your fault you don’t know that.

VERY nice. +2!

USFFan

(11-18-2017 11:00 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Fun fact, usf is the only school never to have won a division nor conference title amongst current conference members.

In our long, 14 years of being in a conference, including 3 long seasons of being in a conference that had divisions. I guess we should shut down the program and hang our heads in shame!

USFFan

(11-18-2017 11:23 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:00 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Fun fact, usf is the only school never to have won a division nor conference title amongst current conference members.

In our long, 14 years of being in a conference, including 3 long seasons of being in a conference that had divisions. I guess we should shut down the program and hang our heads in shame!

USFFan

Wait you seriously had 14 seasons in a conference and never won it?

(11-18-2017 11:31 AM)the1sttransport Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:23 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 11:00 AM)jaredf29 Wrote:  Fun fact, usf is the only school never to have won a division nor conference title amongst current conference members.

In our long, 14 years of being in a conference, including 3 long seasons of being in a conference that had divisions. I guess we should shut down the program and hang our heads in shame!

USFFan

Wait you seriously had 14 seasons in a conference and never won it?

USFFan

Leavitt's USF seemed to always start strong then have a mid-season collapse.

(11-18-2017 08:52 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

The irony is that UCF begged for those games, and convinced CUSA officials that they would embarrass USF if we were forced to play them, so they made that 4 game series our exit fee for leaving CUSA. Then went out and laid an egg. In 2007, USF won the game 64-12. Why is that significant? Because that same year is one of those "ring" pictures UCF fans love to post of their conference championships. There's some spin for you.

USFFan

Yes, i've seen UCF fans boast about 2007 as a 'championship' year.

(11-18-2017 11:54 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Leavitt's USF seemed to always start strong then have a mid-season collapse.

I think he was always focused on the big splash. When USF and UNCC helped to found Conference USA (in part by backing the dissolution of the Metro), it came with the agreement that we would be made football members when we started our football programs. USF then started right away on that, hiring Jim Leavitt and building to move to I-A in five years (2002). However, when we made our move, we were prevented from joining the conference, despite the fact that Leavitt had built that team to make a splash that year. We went 9-2, including 4-0 vs. Conference USA teams, but failed to plan for what would happen after. It's a perfect microcosm of Leavitt's MO.

Every year, we would focus on our big games, and especially our biggest OOC teams. Look back at Leavitt's tenure, the only losing season after our inaugural 5-6 campaign was 2004. Why is that significant? Because our opener was vs. Pitt, a game scheduled for Labor Day weekend. Except that weekend, there was a hurricane bearing down on Florida. Most schools immediately cancelled their game. Leavitt refused, pushing it back first to Sunday, then to Monday, until finally it had to be pushed back until the end of the season. It screwed up his whole plan, the team lost focus, and fell flat. It's why we were always up for the "big" games (we were the first team to beat Pitt in Heinz Field in 2001, we jumped out to a 10 point lead at Bama (well, in Birmingham, the last 'home' game Bama played there) in 2003, that early season win at Auburn, the game vs. WVU - you get the picture) and then lost in games we should have been favored in (seemingly every year vs. Rutgers and UConn).

In the end, I'm not sure whether Leavitt would ever have gotten us over the hump for this reason. We were destined to lose a game we shouldn't have every year.

USFFan

(11-18-2017 12:33 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:52 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(11-18-2017 08:17 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-17-2017 11:05 AM)The Knight Time Wrote:  lol wow, look at the spin on this one

Since we're shared a conference it's 2-2. We beat you twice in a row when you had bad or average teams, then you returned the favor when we had a terrible and then mediocre team.

The 2013 game was only close because we had inexplicable meltdowns on offense and coughed the ball up 4 times.

Talk about spin ... BULLSBeast posts facts and you post nonsense like "since we've shared a conference", as if OOC games somehow count less?

And the 2013 game? You guys were quite lucky. We had the ball and the lead with about 6 minutes to go, deep in your territory, and bungled the chance with penalties and a missed FG, then threw a dumb INT in your territory with a chance to tie or win in the final minute. You were incredibly lucky to survive that game against a terrible 2-9 USF team. We should have denied you that trip to the FB.

The irony is that UCF begged for those games, and convinced CUSA officials that they would embarrass USF if we were forced to play them, so they made that 4 game series our exit fee for leaving CUSA. Then went out and laid an egg. In 2007, USF won the game 64-12. Why is that significant? Because that same year is one of those "ring" pictures UCF fans love to post of their conference championships. There's some spin for you.

USFFan

Yes, i've seen UCF fans boast about 2007 as a 'championship' year.

You know what would be really embarrassing? If we hung our hat on a #2 ranking for one week for like 10 years. Too bad they don’t give trophies for that, hopefully someone gave you a certificate of achievement or at least a sticker for that.

It is kind of ironic that UCF fans love to scream "championships", when they know full when in their so called CUSA championship years of 2005 (Div championship) and 2007 (CUSA championship) they got blown out by USF out of conference. Absolutely crushed. Demolished. So how relevant was the championship that year in relation to the USF-UCF series. If I were a UCF fan, I wouldn't even bring up those championships when talking about the USF-UCF rivalry. When you lose to your rival 64-12, it doesn't make your conf. championship look so great.

(11-18-2017 02:02 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  It is kind of ironic that UCF fans love to scream "championships", when they know full when in their so called CUSA championship years of 2005 (Div championship) and 2007 (CUSA championship) they got blown out by USF out of conference. Absolutely crushed. Demolished. So how relevant was the championship that year in relation to the USF-UCF series. If I were a UCF fan, I wouldn't even bring up those championships when talking about the USF-UCF rivalry. When you lose to your rival 64-12, it doesn't make your conf. championship look so great.

See above.

Nebraska losing 42 - 10 right now.