The Mac has 4 Bowl Tie-ins and currently 6 bowl eligible teams and a possible but doubtful 7th if Buffalo wins out (Ball St and Ohio). Likely two more eligible teams than the 4 guaranteed spots:

MAC
Dollar General (vs. Sun Belt)
Potato (vs. Mountain West)
Bahamas (vs. Conference USA)
Camellia (vs. Sun Belt)

In an Era of "almost all teams that are eligible go bowling" where are we likely to pick-up 2 spots?

Here is how the all conferences line up with eligible teams vs number of tie-ins:

MAC 4 spots, 6 eligible, 5 eliminated, 1 unlikely (-2 Available)
SEC 6 spots , 8 eligible, 1 eliminated, 1 likely, 2 need some luck, 3 unlikely (-3 Available)
ACC 7 Spots, 7 eligible, 1 eliminated, 3 likely, 3 unlikely (-3 Available)
B10 6 spots , 7 eligible, 1 eliminated, 2 need some luck, 4 unlikely (-1 Available)
P12 6 spots , 5 eligible, 1 eliminated, 3 likely, 2 need some luck, 1 unlikely (-2 Available)
B12 6 spots , 5 eligible, 2 eliminated, 1 likely, 1 need some luck, 1 unlikely (0 Avaialbe)
AAC 7 spots , 6 eligible, 4 eliminated, 1 likely, 1 need some luck (0 Available)
MWC 5 spots , 5 eligible, 4 eliminated, 2 likely, 1 need some luck (-2 Available)
CUSA 6 spots , 6 eligible, 3 eliminated, 1 likely, 2 need some luck, 2 unlikely (-1 Available)
SUN 5 spots , 3 eligible, 4 eliminated, 3 likely, 0 need some luck, 2 unlikely (-1 Available)
IND 2 spots, 2 eligible, 2 eliminated (0 Available)

At-Large 11 spots + 4 Shared bowls(8 spots SEC/ACC/B10/ND)

39 Total Bowls + National Championship

There will likely be between 16-19 .500 teams at the end of the season. Need 78 .500 teams to fill all bowls.

There are currently 60 bowl eligible teams +14 likely = 74 Of the remaining 9 that need luck all will probably not make it.

What are the bowls that the MAC will pick up?

Link to all bowls:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...017-season

(11-16-2017 04:32 PM)Rocket_Tree Wrote:  The Mac has 4 Bowl Tie-ins and currently 6 bowl eligible teams and a possible but doubtful 7th if Buffalo wins out (Ball St and Ohio). Likely two more eligible teams than the 4 guaranteed spots:

MAC
Dollar General (vs. Sun Belt)
Potato (vs. Mountain West)
Bahamas (vs. Conference USA)
Camellia (vs. Sun Belt)

In an Era of "almost all teams that are eligible go bowling" where are we likely to pick-up 2 spots?

Here is how the all conferences line up with eligible teams vs number of tie-ins:

MAC 4 spots, 6 eligible, 5 eliminated, 1 unlikely (-2 Available)
SEC 6 spots , 8 eligible, 1 eliminated, 1 likely, 2 need some luck, 3 unlikely (-3 Available)
ACC 7 Spots, 7 eligible, 1 eliminated, 3 likely, 3 unlikely (-3 Available)
B10 6 spots , 7 eligible, 1 eliminated, 2 need some luck, 4 unlikely (-1 Available)
P12 6 spots , 5 eligible, 1 eliminated, 3 likely, 2 need some luck, 1 unlikely (-2 Available)
B12 6 spots , 5 eligible, 2 eliminated, 1 likely, 1 need some luck, 1 unlikely (0 Avaialbe)
AAC 7 spots , 6 eligible, 4 eliminated, 1 likely, 1 need some luck (0 Available)
MWC 5 spots , 5 eligible, 4 eliminated, 2 likely, 1 need some luck (-2 Available)
CUSA 6 spots , 6 eligible, 3 eliminated, 1 likely, 2 need some luck, 2 unlikely (-1 Available)
SUN 5 spots , 3 eligible, 4 eliminated, 3 likely, 0 need some luck, 2 unlikely (-1 Available)
IND 2 spots, 2 eligible, 2 eliminated (0 Available)

At-Large 11 spots + 4 Shared bowls(8 spots SEC/ACC/B10/ND)

39 Total Bowls + National Championship

There will likely be between 16-19 .500 teams at the end of the season. Need 78 .500 teams to fill all bowls.

There are currently 60 bowl eligible teams +14 likely = 74 Of the remaining 9 that need luck all will probably not make it.

What are the bowls that the MAC will pick up?

Link to all bowls:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...017-season

How does sun belt have more guaranteed bowls then the MAC?

I think we were supposed to have the Miami Beach bowl. Moved to Frisco. They have it listed as at large

(11-16-2017 09:25 PM)T4C8 Wrote:  I think we were supposed to have the Miami Beach bowl. Moved to Frisco. They have it listed as at large

underdog dynasty an SB nation site has it pretty much nailed down

Quicklane bowl
Mower bowl
Frisco
Heart of dallas
Military

Those are the at larges we have a shot at.

I have a feeling if Toledo or Ohio and possibly NIU are able to win the MAC these teams will be shopped around for a better bowl game, no need for the MAC champ to be relegated to a Mobile Bowl game against the Sun Belt.

(11-16-2017 10:58 PM)utpotts Wrote:  I have a feeling if Toledo or Ohio and possibly NIU are able to win the MAC these teams will be shopped around for a better bowl game, no need for the MAC champ to be relegated to a Mobile Bowl game against the Sun Belt.

that only happens if the Mobile bowl has another good option. Like they want Ohio and their band instead of the MAC champ (if it isn't Ohio). Or there is a decent AAC or CUSA team that wants to swap their affiliated bowl slot for Mobile. If Toledo had beat Ohio and was 12-1 or NIU hadn't pissed away the BC and SDSU games and was 11-1 those teams would have more leverage. No MAC team is a major draw for a bowl or will travel well. A few MAC teams this year Toledo, NIU, Ohio have enough combined national recognition and success to maybe sneak into a good bowl swap if the bowl is struggling to find a decent team to play a pretty solid opponent. This happened a few years back with Toledo playing Air Force in the Military Bowl and one year with NIU playing Boise or SDSU in the Poinsettia Bowl, but it's only a possibility. I also think bowls are required to take available 7-5 teams over 6-6 teams unless those 6-6 teams are filling a contracted conference affiliated slot. So, this might help Akron (or maybe WMU).

Lest I be wrong, the MAC has qualified 7 team with 6 or more wins...

Now the fun begins. I have no idea if more than 78 teams will qualify with 6 or more wins to fill those 39 bowl games.

Been a decent day today as far as teams trying to get eligible losing

CUSA will have a few sit home. UB has a great win over FAU to make them attractive.
WMU's draw will be based on their national attention last season. They stumbled to the finish line.

If we get a bid, fine, extra PT for the young guys even in a loss.

If we don’t, fine. In fact, I’m more than ready for the season to be over.

(11-16-2017 10:58 PM)utpotts Wrote:  I have a feeling if Toledo or Ohio and possibly NIU are able to win the MAC these teams will be shopped around for a better bowl game, no need for the MAC champ to be relegated to a Mobile Bowl game against the Sun Belt.

Your contract with Mobile doesn't work that way. Especially since Mobile has been shorted the MAC champ for what, 2 straight years now. In order for the MAC champ to not cover Mobile, there would need to be another MAC option that is more appealing, or enough ESPN pressure that Mobile caves, and I just don't see ESPN Pushing that this time around with the AAC champ heading access.

The other issue is the fact that the Sun Belt has the same teams win every year, so repeat opponents became all too common. Everything out of the league office at this point on our end is that Troy is going to end up back in Mobile. Trojans have already played Akron this year, so Mobile won't go for a rematch, and they played Ohio in that same bowl last year, so it's likely they don't go for that either. That limits the options significantly. League office is already working overtime to make sure Arkansas State covers Montgomery this year and App covers New Orleans when conventional wisdom would reverse the two simply because App's been to Montgomery two straight years.

(11-25-2017 07:49 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CUSA will have a few sit home. UB has a great win over FAU to make them attractive.
WMU's draw will be based on their national attention last season. They stumbled to the finish line.

Has anyone counted the number of bowl eligible?

MAC has 7 and one might be in danger if the there are more than 78 eligibles.

Also, other conferences, as suggested above, may not be able to find bowls for their eligibles.

EDIT: I counted 80 eligibles with with maybe one or two still having possibilities.

(11-25-2017 07:49 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  CUSA will have a few sit home. UB has a great win over FAU to make them attractive.
WMU's draw will be based on their national attention last season. They stumbled to the finish line.

It all depends on where the bowl eligible shortages are.

Shortage
AAC-1 (Shortage here because of access bowl)
B10-2 (perhaps more with multiple teams in the CFP)
SBC-1

Surplus
ACC-2 (May not be as much with CFP participants)
B12-1 (May not be as much with CFP participants)
PAC-4 (Big surplus here)
SEC-1 (May not be as much with CFP participants)

Toledo 10-2 (in as MAC West champ)
Akron 7-5 (in as MAC East champ)
CMU 8-4 (win over Ohio)
Ohio 8-4 (win over Toledo)
NIU 8-4
WMU 6-6
Buffalo 6-6

I think its looking pretty dicey for WMU and Buffalo getting placed.

The PAC will likely fill any P5 openings.

Detroit is the only bowl the MAC has a good shot at.

(11-26-2017 02:52 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 10:58 PM)utpotts Wrote:  I have a feeling if Toledo or Ohio and possibly NIU are able to win the MAC these teams will be shopped around for a better bowl game, no need for the MAC champ to be relegated to a Mobile Bowl game against the Sun Belt.

Your contract with Mobile doesn't work that way. Especially since Mobile has been shorted the MAC champ for what, 2 straight years now. In order for the MAC champ to not cover Mobile, there would need to be another MAC option that is more appealing, or enough ESPN pressure that Mobile caves, and I just don't see ESPN Pushing that this time around with the AAC champ heading access.

The other issue is the fact that the Sun Belt has the same teams win every year, so repeat opponents became all too common. Everything out of the league office at this point on our end is that Troy is going to end up back in Mobile. Trojans have already played Akron this year, so Mobile won't go for a rematch, and they played Ohio in that same bowl last year, so it's likely they don't go for that either. That limits the options significantly. League office is already working overtime to make sure Arkansas State covers Montgomery this year and App covers New Orleans when conventional wisdom would reverse the two simply because App's been to Montgomery two straight years.

I would be all for a Toledo/Troy matchup in Mobile.

(11-26-2017 02:24 PM)Rocket A Wrote:  

(11-26-2017 02:52 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(11-16-2017 10:58 PM)utpotts Wrote:  I have a feeling if Toledo or Ohio and possibly NIU are able to win the MAC these teams will be shopped around for a better bowl game, no need for the MAC champ to be relegated to a Mobile Bowl game against the Sun Belt.

Your contract with Mobile doesn't work that way. Especially since Mobile has been shorted the MAC champ for what, 2 straight years now. In order for the MAC champ to not cover Mobile, there would need to be another MAC option that is more appealing, or enough ESPN pressure that Mobile caves, and I just don't see ESPN Pushing that this time around with the AAC champ heading access.

The other issue is the fact that the Sun Belt has the same teams win every year, so repeat opponents became all too common. Everything out of the league office at this point on our end is that Troy is going to end up back in Mobile. Trojans have already played Akron this year, so Mobile won't go for a rematch, and they played Ohio in that same bowl last year, so it's likely they don't go for that either. That limits the options significantly. League office is already working overtime to make sure Arkansas State covers Montgomery this year and App covers New Orleans when conventional wisdom would reverse the two simply because App's been to Montgomery two straight years.

I would be all for a Toledo/Troy matchup in Mobile.

That's what Mobile appears to want. Though both teams still have tough games this weekend that could change things.