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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
Lebo used this nonsensical argument to perfection for years. He would get a question about scheduling and then would say that he’s tried to get ACC teams to agree to home and homes and they won’t. He should try, and they likely would always say no, but there’s a whole bunch of quality mid majors that would agree to home and homes if he actually wanted that. He knows though that the average ECU fan doesn’t care or have any knowledge of basketball below the ACC and thinks they can’t tell you the difference between playing say Murray State vs Grambling State or Winthrop vs Central Connecticut State. Unfortunately he was right, too many ECU fans just let that slide for years until you reached this years masterpiece of crap.
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-26-2017 08:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
Lebo used this nonsensical argument to perfection for years. He would get a question about scheduling and then would say that he’s tried to get ACC teams to agree to home and homes and they won’t. He should try, and they likely would always say no, but there’s a whole bunch of quality mid majors that would agree to home and homes if he actually wanted that. He knows though that the average ECU fan doesn’t care or have any knowledge of basketball below the ACC and thinks they can’t tell you the difference between playing say Murray State vs Grambling State or Winthrop vs Central Connecticut State. Unfortunately he was right, too many ECU fans just let that slide for years until you reached this years masterpiece of crap.
Neither here nor there but I remember when ECU went and played UCF when the Knights were still in 1-AA. (1991 or 1992 I think)
Imagine that. A 1-A team going to play at a 1-AA team.
I don't even think that any FBS team would even think about doing that today, would they ?
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
Cincinnati's OOC SOS since joining the AAC:
2013-14: 81
2014-15: 27
2015-16: 145
2016-17: 34
We've already gone over the reasons for this season's poor SOS multiple times in multiple threads (both are directly related to renting another school's arena this season), but Wichita State fans are going to keep bringing it up because they seem to have a weird fascination with picking at everyone until they are the social pariahs of the AAC.
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-26-2017 08:44 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote: (12-26-2017 08:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
Lebo used this nonsensical argument to perfection for years. He would get a question about scheduling and then would say that he’s tried to get ACC teams to agree to home and homes and they won’t. He should try, and they likely would always say no, but there’s a whole bunch of quality mid majors that would agree to home and homes if he actually wanted that. He knows though that the average ECU fan doesn’t care or have any knowledge of basketball below the ACC and thinks they can’t tell you the difference between playing say Murray State vs Grambling State or Winthrop vs Central Connecticut State. Unfortunately he was right, too many ECU fans just let that slide for years until you reached this years masterpiece of crap.
Neither here nor there but I remember when ECU went and played UCF when the Knights were still in 1-AA. (1991 or 1992 I think)
Imagine that. A 1-A team going to play at a 1-AA team.
I don't even think that any FBS team would even think about doing that today, would they ?
Only 2 teams might, UMASS and NMSU. That was a different era though and ECU was Indy and filling out an 11 game schedule was difficult even with far more independent teams back in those days.
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(12-25-2017 02:42 PM)kyucat Wrote: It’s easy to critize Cincy for scheduling buy games but on the flip side many teams won’t play UC home and home or play UC at all do the risk they lose. Example UK Indiana, Notre Dame, WVU, Illinois, Tennessee, Vandy which are all regional schools refuse to schedule. Add all Big 12 Schools, have been asked but won’t play UC in Cincinnati or at all. So if any of you can get Kansas or Syracuse to play home and home I sure Mick will do it.
Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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(12-26-2017 12:56 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-25-2017 02:42 PM)kyucat Wrote: It’s easy to critize Cincy for scheduling buy games but on the flip side many teams won’t play UC home and home or play UC at all do the risk they lose. Example UK Indiana, Notre Dame, WVU, Illinois, Tennessee, Vandy which are all regional schools refuse to schedule. Add all Big 12 Schools, have been asked but won’t play UC in Cincinnati or at all. So if any of you can get Kansas or Syracuse to play home and home I sure Mick will do it.
Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us. We also played a home-and-home with Butler a few years back, which is less than two hours away. I wish we would have kept that one going, as I think it was beneficial for both schools.
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(12-26-2017 01:01 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 12:56 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-25-2017 02:42 PM)kyucat Wrote: It’s easy to critize Cincy for scheduling buy games but on the flip side many teams won’t play UC home and home or play UC at all do the risk they lose. Example UK Indiana, Notre Dame, WVU, Illinois, Tennessee, Vandy which are all regional schools refuse to schedule. Add all Big 12 Schools, have been asked but won’t play UC in Cincinnati or at all. So if any of you can get Kansas or Syracuse to play home and home I sure Mick will do it.
Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us.
What about cuse? They are playing us, gtown and other old big east schools Why wont they schedule yall
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(12-26-2017 01:04 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:01 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 12:56 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-25-2017 02:42 PM)kyucat Wrote: It’s easy to critize Cincy for scheduling buy games but on the flip side many teams won’t play UC home and home or play UC at all do the risk they lose. Example UK Indiana, Notre Dame, WVU, Illinois, Tennessee, Vandy which are all regional schools refuse to schedule. Add all Big 12 Schools, have been asked but won’t play UC in Cincinnati or at all. So if any of you can get Kansas or Syracuse to play home and home I sure Mick will do it.
Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us.
What about cuse? They are playing us, gtown and other old big east schools Why wont they schedule yall
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I don't know that they wouldn't. It is certainly possible. I don't recall Boeheim and Cronin having any animosity towards each other. I'm sure Syracuse would prefer to schedule UConn and Georgetown though since those are traditional rivals. We certainly want more big-name schools on our schedule, but I don't think it's for lack of trying. This season we had UCLA and Florida and next year we will have UCLA and Ohio State. Those are definitely the types of games the fans want on an annual basis.
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-26-2017 01:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:04 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:01 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 12:56 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-25-2017 02:42 PM)kyucat Wrote: It’s easy to critize Cincy for scheduling buy games but on the flip side many teams won’t play UC home and home or play UC at all do the risk they lose. Example UK Indiana, Notre Dame, WVU, Illinois, Tennessee, Vandy which are all regional schools refuse to schedule. Add all Big 12 Schools, have been asked but won’t play UC in Cincinnati or at all. So if any of you can get Kansas or Syracuse to play home and home I sure Mick will do it.
Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us.
What about cuse? They are playing us, gtown and other old big east schools Why wont they schedule yall
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I don't know that they wouldn't. It is certainly possible. I don't recall Boeheim and Cronin having any animosity towards each other. I'm sure Syracuse would prefer to schedule UConn and Georgetown though since those are traditional rivals. We certainly want more big-name schools on our schedule, but I don't think it's for lack of trying. This season we had UCLA and Florida and next year we will have UCLA and Ohio State. Those are definitely the types of games the fans want on an annual basis.
I don't know why you couldn't get any of the C7 schools if you wanted. Are you refusing to play them? We've had Georgetown and will have Nova this year. We also declined series vs Providence and St Johns.
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I would hope not. I don't think we are in any position to turn down a series offer from Providence or St. John's unless it is just not logistically possible for the years/dates they are requesting.
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(12-26-2017 01:28 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:04 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:01 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 12:56 PM)Huskypride Wrote: Why would WVU and Cuse not wanna play cincy?? Yall are a big name?
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Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us.
What about cuse? They are playing us, gtown and other old big east schools Why wont they schedule yall
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I don't know that they wouldn't. It is certainly possible. I don't recall Boeheim and Cronin having any animosity towards each other. I'm sure Syracuse would prefer to schedule UConn and Georgetown though since those are traditional rivals. We certainly want more big-name schools on our schedule, but I don't think it's for lack of trying. This season we had UCLA and Florida and next year we will have UCLA and Ohio State. Those are definitely the types of games the fans want on an annual basis.
I don't know why you couldn't get any of the C7 schools if you wanted. Are you refusing to play them? We've had Georgetown and will have Nova this year. We also declined series vs Providence and St Johns.
Why did we turned down those series???
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
(12-26-2017 09:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Cincinnati's OOC SOS since joining the AAC:
2013-14: 81
2014-15: 27
2015-16: 145
2016-17: 34
We've already gone over the reasons for this season's poor SOS multiple times in multiple threads (both are directly related to renting another school's arena this season), but Wichita State fans are going to keep bringing it up because they seem to have a weird fascination with picking at everyone until they are the social pariahs of the AAC.
Wow. This season is quite an anomaly. Thank you!
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
(12-26-2017 08:44 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote: (12-26-2017 08:26 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: (12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
Lebo used this nonsensical argument to perfection for years. He would get a question about scheduling and then would say that he’s tried to get ACC teams to agree to home and homes and they won’t. He should try, and they likely would always say no, but there’s a whole bunch of quality mid majors that would agree to home and homes if he actually wanted that. He knows though that the average ECU fan doesn’t care or have any knowledge of basketball below the ACC and thinks they can’t tell you the difference between playing say Murray State vs Grambling State or Winthrop vs Central Connecticut State. Unfortunately he was right, too many ECU fans just let that slide for years until you reached this years masterpiece of crap.
Neither here nor there but I remember when ECU went and played UCF when the Knights were still in 1-AA. (1991 or 1992 I think)
Imagine that. A 1-A team going to play at a 1-AA team.
I don't even think that any FBS team would even think about doing that today, would they ?
It was very unusual, even in those days ('91). It was part of a 3-for-1 deal that even included having the 1st game in Orlando. To this day I'm not entirely sure why ECU agreed to it. I'm not sure if it would have happened if we hadn't been playing in the Citrus Bowl at the time. I'm sure having Orlando as a destination for fans probably didn't hurt, but it was still highly irregular. Even after all these years I don't know if I have ever heard of another 1A visiting a 1-AA.
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(12-26-2017 01:43 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:28 PM)HuskyU Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:18 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:04 PM)Huskypride Wrote: (12-26-2017 01:01 PM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Cincinnati and WVU will never schedule a series as long as Bob Huggins is there. Every time we played them in the Big East, it dragged up a lot of old BS that neither of our coaches care to deal with. Cronin has put it out there publicly that he wants to renew the Louisville series, but Pitino always dodged him despite their relationship. Hopefully that changes now with Pitino gone. We are starting a home-and-home with Ohio State next year now that they finally have a coach who is willing to schedule us.
What about cuse? They are playing us, gtown and other old big east schools Why wont they schedule yall
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I don't know that they wouldn't. It is certainly possible. I don't recall Boeheim and Cronin having any animosity towards each other. I'm sure Syracuse would prefer to schedule UConn and Georgetown though since those are traditional rivals. We certainly want more big-name schools on our schedule, but I don't think it's for lack of trying. This season we had UCLA and Florida and next year we will have UCLA and Ohio State. Those are definitely the types of games the fans want on an annual basis.
I don't know why you couldn't get any of the C7 schools if you wanted. Are you refusing to play them? We've had Georgetown and will have Nova this year. We also declined series vs Providence and St Johns.
Why did we turned down those series???
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Providence first suggested the series a few years ago. Ollie's said on a few occasions that it's been a "scheduling issue." But if you wanna make a series happen, you can make it happen. There was bad blood between Calhoun and Providence so that may have something to do with it (along with not wanting to look bad against a fellow New England school).
I know Lavin wanted to schedule a series, but again, it "couldn't get figured out." Not sure if Mullen has made an attempt.
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(12-26-2017 01:44 PM)pvtlamb Wrote: (12-25-2017 05:50 PM)AndShock Wrote: There are dozens of top mid-majors who would line up for a H/H with Cincy. I don’t know if that would damage future scheduling opportunities but let’s not act like the only option is to have a horrible schedule. The only option with Mick’s philosophy is to have a horrible schedule, that might mean it’s time to change the philosophy.
(12-26-2017 09:26 AM)robertfoshizzle Wrote: Cincinnati's OOC SOS since joining the AAC:
2013-14: 81
2014-15: 27
2015-16: 145
2016-17: 34
We've already gone over the reasons for this season's poor SOS multiple times in multiple threads (both are directly related to renting another school's arena this season), but Wichita State fans are going to keep bringing it up because they seem to have a weird fascination with picking at everyone until they are the social pariahs of the AAC.
Wow. This season is quite an anomaly. Thank you!
Sorry for being an ass. There are a couple of Wichita State fans that keep bringing this up, so that's who I was referencing more than anything in my original post.
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
UC finishes comference 15-1
only loss -at SMU
book it
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(12-26-2017 03:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: UC finishes comference 15-1
only loss -at SMU
book it
Since you love Cosmopolitans so much, I’ll buy you some after the game at Moody
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(12-26-2017 03:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: UC finishes comference 15-1
only loss -at SMU
book it
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(12-26-2017 03:28 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote: UC finishes comference 15-1
only loss -at SMU
book it
Moody is the toughest place to play in the conference -- withholding any judgment of Charles Koch Arena until I see my team play there once or twice. Cincinnati is 1-3 there, and SMU has only lost 3 conference home games in the past 4+ years. Cincinnati made its first trip to Moody ranked #7 in the country and left on the wrong side of a 21-point beat down.
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RE: OoC SoS Forecasts
Cinncinati only plays 16 games in conference instead of 18 like the rest of the teams?
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