Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

they would probably put any G5 team at 8

(12-04-2017 11:45 AM)techdawg88 Wrote:  they would probably put any G5 team at 8

I don't think you could do that. At some point there will be a 9-3 or 8-4 G4 champ and realistically they shouldn't be in over even a 3 loss team with a schedule like an Auburn or a 1 loss team like Wisconsin.

Fine. Except UCF would definitely be #8 since USC is technically higher than UCF already.

However, with 8, there's no guarantee they'd have an autobid for a G5 conference because that "8th" team from the p5 that gets left out will be so upset and try to push their weight around.

I would assume they would keep everything the same, except take the top 8 regardless of conference affiliation instead of top 4.


I would much rather see a 16 team playoff still using either the top 16 teams or with 10 auto bids & the next top 6 teams. Every year you're going to have at least the top 10 teams covered every year in your playoff and it gives each champion a chance to compete for a national title.

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

No auto bid. That's lame. We should be able to produce a top 8 or not go.

I was talking about this the other day, how there are so many pointless bowl games now. While I know that none of us are on board with a G5 playoff, I have an idea for a compromise.

Why not do it like the NCAA basketball tournament and NIT. You still make the playoff 8 teams, but then have another 12 (maybe) team playoff with the rest of the 20 best teams. Top 20 would be top 20, regardless of conference. No one is locked into an FCS-style playoff with a glass ceiling. It basically just gives the remaining teams something to play for.

Just a thought...

(12-04-2017 01:10 PM)MichealBond Wrote:  Fine. Except UCF would definitely be #8 since USC is technically higher than UCF already.

However, with 8, there's no guarantee they'd have an autobid for a G5 conference because that "8th" team from the p5 that gets left out will be so upset and try to push their weight around.

I would assume they would keep everything the same, except take the top 8 regardless of conference affiliation instead of top 4.


I would much rather see a 16 team playoff still using either the top 16 teams or with 10 auto bids & the next top 6 teams. Every year you're going to have at least the top 10 teams covered every year in your playoff and it gives each champion a chance to compete for a national title.

Good catch on UCF being 8 instead of 7. USC would move up into Auburn's and UCF would take the 8th spot.

I gave the AAC an auto as part of the P6. The G4 champ doesn't automatically get in. unless they have a better record than a non conference champ at large bid from the P6. Only reason I did that was so the G4 teams couldn't claim they were being shut out completely.

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

boy ya'll are a conceited bunch

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

Wait, if Whisky can be in after only loss to their conference champ, then Memphis should be in as well by the same logic.

(12-04-2017 01:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

No auto bid. That's lame. We should be able to produce a top 8 or not go.

I was talking about this the other day, how there are so many pointless bowl games now. While I know that none of us are on board with a G5 playoff, I have an idea for a compromise.

Why not do it like the NCAA basketball tournament and NIT. You still make the playoff 8 teams, but then have another 12 (maybe) team playoff with the rest of the 20 best teams. Top 20 would be top 20, regardless of conference. No one is locked into an FCS-style playoff with a glass ceiling. It basically just gives the remaining teams something to play for.

Just a thought...

The problem with no auto bid is then you fall prey to perception and subjectivity. Any committee is going to look down on any team outside of the Power structure.

If it goes to 8 we have to get an auto bid for the highest rated team outside the P5.

16 would be better with all D 1 conference champs making it plus 6 wild cards. Every D1 team should have a pathway. If you are undefeated and win your league like UCF you absolutely should have a shot at a playoff m

(12-04-2017 10:14 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

Wait, if Whisky can be in after only loss to their conference champ, then Memphis should be in as well by the same logic.

Not at all. Look at the rankings throughout the year. I think Memphis (and to the point USF) were ranked too low during the year, but neither had a legitimate argument for being ranked as high as Wisconsin.

(12-04-2017 10:50 PM)First Mate Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 01:52 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

No auto bid. That's lame. We should be able to produce a top 8 or not go.

I was talking about this the other day, how there are so many pointless bowl games now. While I know that none of us are on board with a G5 playoff, I have an idea for a compromise.

Why not do it like the NCAA basketball tournament and NIT. You still make the playoff 8 teams, but then have another 12 (maybe) team playoff with the rest of the 20 best teams. Top 20 would be top 20, regardless of conference. No one is locked into an FCS-style playoff with a glass ceiling. It basically just gives the remaining teams something to play for.

Just a thought...

The problem with no auto bid is then you fall prey to perception and subjectivity. Any committee is going to look down on any team outside of the Power structure.

If it goes to 8 we have to get an auto bid for the highest rated team outside the P5.

16 would be better with all D 1 conference champs making it plus 6 wild cards. Every D1 team should have a pathway. If you are undefeated and win your league like UCF you absolutely should have a shot at a playoff m

It will never go to 16 teams unless the regular season schedule goes back to 10 games. Too many games.

(12-05-2017 08:14 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 10:14 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(12-04-2017 11:41 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Framework:

All first round games take place during the pre-Christmas bowl season
Semi-finals are New Years eve and New Years day.
Finals week of the 14th.

16 Games to win the Championship.
P6 Champs are in
Highest ranked G4 Champ is in over the lowest ranked non-conference champ from P-6 if the G4 champion has a better record.

So this year UCF (12-0) get the AAC auto-bid and Auburn is first out as a 3-loss non conference champ.

Boise State misses the playoff as the highest ranked G4 champion due to Wisconsin (12-1) having a better record and Auburn (10-3) having the same record with tougher SOS

1. Clemson
2.Oklahoma
3. Georgia
4. Alabama
5.Ohio State
6. Wisconsin
7. UCF
8. USC

Increasing bowl eligibility to 7-5 should eliminate a couple of 6-6 matchups and would keep from having to add bowl games prior to the semi-finals.

A pipedream but would have been fun to watch

Wait, if Whisky can be in after only loss to their conference champ, then Memphis should be in as well by the same logic.

Not at all. Look at the rankings throughout the year. I think Memphis (and to the point USF) were ranked too low during the year, but neither had a legitimate argument for being ranked as high as Wisconsin.

Other than schedule. WI played nobody, losing their only tough game. The WI schedule was weak. And if the weak P5 were not ranked with bias in favor of the P5, despite the bad mid & lower level P5 schools in every conference, the top AAC program would be ahead of WI & some other P5 ranked schools.