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Rice has made a great (FC) hire and is a perfect fit as a private school in one of the divisions in the current P4. Resources are there, and the footprint opens Texas to the B10, PAC12 or ACC. A Rice add to the SEC enhances the Texas footprint for the SEC and adds a second private for the conference.
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12-09-2017 01:16 PM
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Rice is too tiny for a P5 IMO.

TCU joined a P5 but they are in Dallas-FW market, largest in the state and top producer of football talent. Oklahoma, Texas and Texas A&M are all several hours from the Dallas-FW market. TCU's competition locally is SMU which has a similar institutional profile.

Houston market is different with Texas A&M much closer and the University of Houston in the market. Rice looks tiny athletically by not just P5 standards but also University of Houston standards.

I'd even question Rice as a backfill to the AAC if Houston left. AAC already has 3 private schools in it (Tulsa, SMU, Tulane) pulling the conference down in FB.
12-09-2017 01:24 PM
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
If you can package yourself with Texas plus two more to the Pac that could work. Huge if, though.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Rice could be another Duke, Northwestern or Stanford but they have to care first.
12-09-2017 03:06 PM
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Rice is an academic powerhouse. It is potentially a Duke, Stanford or Northwestern. But so far it's performance is more like a Tulsa or Tulane.

But no question if they invested in Athletics like Stanford and Northwestern did, they would be the very top choice of G5 for a P5 slot. But the window is closing, the next realignment is about 7 years away. This means they need to make that decision to throw $100M at it in the next five years right now. I suspect that wont happen.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Replace Baylor with Rice and there would be a PAC-16 today.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
If you're comparing to Stanford or TCU: Each of those programs have received more than $100 million in donations to athletics over the last 10 years or so.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
(12-09-2017 04:33 PM)Wedge Wrote:  If you're comparing to Stanford or TCU: Each of those programs have received more than $100 million in donations to athletics over the last 10 years or so.

For both the investment to upgrade their programs preceded the donations. Stanford made that decision in the 1990s.and it took a decade before it started to pay off, and they rose from the P12 cellar.

Rice has the same kind of high end donor base that would contribute to athletics if there was success and emphasis on it. Right now that emphasis on excellence in athletics is not there.

But note, I am also saying the clock is ticking, and they are running out of time, especially when you consider the lag before you see real success on the court and in the field.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Here's the thing: If Rice goes 2-10, you still have a great academic school in a fun city to visit that has a LOT of FBS tradition. It's not an undesirable bottom feeder.
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RE: Rice to SEC, B10, PAC12, ACC
Houston is larger than DFW. If you add in the metro areas, DFW edges Houston.
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