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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
(02-04-2018 08:45 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The rebuilt ACC becomes:

B.C., Cincinnati, Connecticut, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, W.V.U.

Baylor, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, N.C. State, T.C.U., Wake Forest


Now what you have is a more football emphasized ACC without losing all of its basketball cachet.

I'm not going to deny it -- that's probably a better football conference than the current ACC. Replace UConn with a team with more FB upside like Memphis or Temple and it's DEFINITELY a better football conference (and as you suggest, not a bad basketball conference either). In this scenario, the teams the ACC would lose (UVA, UNC and Duke) are pretty much football dead weight, while picking up Cincinnati, a team to be named later, WVU, Baylor and TCU? I could certainly live with that...
02-05-2018 06:38 PM
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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
(02-05-2018 06:38 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(02-04-2018 08:45 PM)JRsec Wrote:  The rebuilt ACC becomes:

B.C., Cincinnati, Connecticut, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia Tech, W.V.U.

Baylor, Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Louisville, N.C. State, T.C.U., Wake Forest


Now what you have is a more football emphasized ACC without losing all of its basketball cachet.

I'm not going to deny it -- that's probably a better football conference than the current ACC. Replace UConn with a team with more FB upside like Memphis or Temple and it's DEFINITELY a better football conference (and as you suggest, not a bad basketball conference either). In this scenario, the teams the ACC would lose (UVA, UNC and Duke) are pretty much football dead weight, while picking up Cincinnati, a team to be named later, WVU, Baylor and TCU? I could certainly live with that...

More importantly without those three a government by consensus would be possible and schools would be free to act in a manner that is best for the whole conference instead of in one that is best for Chapel Hill and Tobacco Road.
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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
More good stuff from Greg Flugaur @flugempire.....

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“PAC’s apparel deals among its top line branded Universities show an underrated value within its Conference. Must, and will, simplify its Conference Network into one media box. Need to unravel its complexity”

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“Some in industry expect USC to leak out info on them looking at and researching possible path toward Independence in Football to push PAC into some reform in next few years, but nobody will take these leaks seriously”


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“PAC has no interest in any merger with Big 12. This discussion wouldn’t get past the first open meeting at Berkeley. This is not a serious topic.”
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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
(02-14-2018 08:32 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  More good stuff from Greg Flugaur @flugempire.....

BTM

“PAC’s apparel deals among its top line branded Universities show an underrated value within its Conference. Must, and will, simplify its Conference Network into one media box. Need to unravel its complexity”

BTM

“Some in industry expect USC to leak out info on them looking at and researching possible path toward Independence in Football to push PAC into some reform in next few years, but nobody will take these leaks seriously”


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“PAC has no interest in any merger with Big 12. This discussion wouldn’t get past the first open meeting at Berkeley. This is not a serious topic.”

The leaks of USC independence have already started. See this link from December:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...gnment-lol
02-14-2018 12:55 PM
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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
Part of me wonders if there could have been a deal struck between the Pac-12 and NBC, perhaps with an equity stake for NBC in exchange for their help in carriage battles.

Maybe NBC could have shown a Pac-12 Game-of-the-Week in a double-header with their ND games. Except for the week each season when ND hosts USC/Stanford.

Other games would make their way to NBCSN and the P12Ns.

Perhaps we weren't worth that much to NBC or we didn't want to get shut out of the ESPN echo-chamber. But it seems like there could have been some common interests between the network that covers the Olympics and the conference that produces more Olympic hopefuls than its peers.
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RE: Is All Well in PAC Land? Just How Disgruntled Are the Trojans? Stay Tuned......
(02-14-2018 12:55 PM)YNot Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 08:32 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  More good stuff from Greg Flugaur @flugempire.....

BTM

“PAC’s apparel deals among its top line branded Universities show an underrated value within its Conference. Must, and will, simplify its Conference Network into one media box. Need to unravel its complexity”

BTM

“Some in industry expect USC to leak out info on them looking at and researching possible path toward Independence in Football to push PAC into some reform in next few years, but nobody will take these leaks seriously”


BTM

“PAC has no interest in any merger with Big 12. This discussion wouldn’t get past the first open meeting at Berkeley. This is not a serious topic.”

The leaks of USC independence have already started. See this link from December:
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...gnment-lol

If USC goes indy and UCLA leaves for the Big 12 who is left in California?

http://www.espn.com/blog/pac12/post/_/id...-to-big-12

I wouldn’t be surprised to see UCLA say, "You know what? This deal with this USC thing? We’re gonna go and be our own guy, rather than always tied to the school here in Los Angeles." It wouldn’t shock me at all. I don’t have any inside information. I’m just saying from outside looking in.
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