The basic gist is this: FSU's win over Delaware State might not have been allowed to count toward the Seminoles' bowl eligibility. The executive summary is quoted below, and full details can be found through the link at the bottom.

Quote:Overview
Florida State is scheduled to play in a record 36th consecutive bowl game, the Independence Bowl, against Southern Miss on December 27. Their 6-6 record includes a win over Delaware State, an FCS program. For an FCS opponent to be countable towards bowl eligibility, the FCS program must have awarded at least 90% of the FCS scholarship limit. After our own investigation, we have determined and confirmed that Delaware State has not met the 90% threshold set by the NCAA. As a result, Florida State's bowl countable record is 5-6, thus making them ineligible for a bowl game this season. At present, there are three other bowl eligible teams that were not offered a game and it would be unprecedented for a team to go bowling without either eligibility or a waiver while teams who are eligible stay home.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/7l..._eligible/

Doubt it changes anything. Tickets have been sold.

reddit. gotcha.

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A lot of P5 teams would have to vacate wins if they all followed that rule. Florida State not getting out of this one.

(12-21-2017 12:46 PM)That Guy 2012 Wrote:  The basic gist is this: FSU's win over Delaware State might not have been allowed to count toward the Seminoles' bowl eligibility. The executive summary is quoted below, and full details can be found through the link at the bottom.

Quote:Overview
Florida State is scheduled to play in a record 36th consecutive bowl game, the Independence Bowl, against Southern Miss on December 27. Their 6-6 record includes a win over Delaware State, an FCS program. For an FCS opponent to be countable towards bowl eligibility, the FCS program must have awarded at least 90% of the FCS scholarship limit. After our own investigation, we have determined and confirmed that Delaware State has not met the 90% threshold set by the NCAA. As a result, Florida State's bowl countable record is 5-6, thus making them ineligible for a bowl game this season. At present, there are three other bowl eligible teams that were not offered a game and it would be unprecedented for a team to go bowling without either eligibility or a waiver while teams who are eligible stay home.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CFB/comments/7l..._eligible/

I mean, say what you will about the source, but he's not wrong. Considering Delaware State certified the schollie numbers, the win shouldn't count for FSU's bowl eligibility.

(12-21-2017 02:11 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I mean, say what you will about the source, but he's not wrong. Considering Delaware State certified the schollie numbers, the win shouldn't count for FSU's bowl eligibility.

means nothing now.....

doesn't matter....

next year's situation is when it should be addressed.....

whoopdy mother******* doo doo.....

I simply want to kick some tomahawk chopin' arse one more time.....

(12-21-2017 02:11 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I mean, say what you will about the source, but he's not wrong. Considering Delaware State certified the schollie numbers, the win shouldn't count for FSU's bowl eligibility.

if the numbers really came from delaware state to begin with, and if whatever clerk in the whichever office understood the exercise, and if the ncaa didn't already sanction the bid in view of the fact that FS got a home game against ULaLa (FFS) canceled because of the hurricane, & etc., & etc., & etc.

seriously, you almost have to want to believe this ****, and that some internet detective is smarter than most of the rest of the planet.

pass.

They enforce this about as much as they do the attendance rule

(12-21-2017 04:20 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:11 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I mean, say what you will about the source, but he's not wrong. Considering Delaware State certified the schollie numbers, the win shouldn't count for FSU's bowl eligibility.

if the numbers really came from delaware state to begin with, and if whatever clerk in the whichever office understood the exercise, and if the ncaa didn't already sanction the bid in view of the fact that FS got a home game against ULaLa (FFS) canceled because of the hurricane, & etc., & etc., & etc.

seriously, you almost have to want to believe this ****, and that some internet detective is smarter than most of the rest of the planet.

pass.

Just wanted to correct one thing....

FSU did not get a home game vs ULL canceled. It was ULM and that game was made up to get them at 6 wins.

The question I have is why someone would even look at a 6-6 FSU schedule and take the time and effort to even question why a FCS game would not count. Someone has to really have a hardon for FSU to even go there. Even then the chance of getting FSU removed from the bowl game....

less than Western winning CUSA again over the next 3 seasons. Which would be about...0.00000000000003%

Good luck....kick the **** out of FSU

(12-21-2017 06:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Just wanted to correct one thing....

FSU did not get a home game vs ULL canceled. It was ULM and that game was made up to get them at 6 wins.

The question I have is why someone would even look at a 6-6 FSU schedule and take the time and effort to even question why a FCS game would not count. Someone has to really have a hardon for FSU to even go there. Even then the chance of getting FSU removed from the bowl game....

less than Western winning CUSA again over the next 3 seasons. Which would be about...0.00000000000003%

Good luck....kick the **** out of FSU

Actually, and I'm not saying this in a negative way, I figured you'd be just the guy who'd do such a thing. You are famous, after all, for you charts and graphs and yearly statistical analyses that make my eyes bleed.

Never underestimate the tenacity of a Redditor. They’ll find the most oddball things. FSU will get to play, but NCAA will have to make sure it doesn’t make this mistake again, especially considering their are actual bowl eligible teams sitting at home.

(12-21-2017 01:18 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  A lot of P5 teams would have to vacate wins if they all followed that rule. Florida State not getting out of this one.

It's not a vacated win, it just doesn't count towards bowl eligibility specifically.

(12-21-2017 04:20 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 02:11 PM)TribeNiner Wrote:  I mean, say what you will about the source, but he's not wrong. Considering Delaware State certified the schollie numbers, the win shouldn't count for FSU's bowl eligibility.

if the numbers really came from delaware state to begin with, and if whatever clerk in the whichever office understood the exercise, and if the ncaa didn't already sanction the bid in view of the fact that FS got a home game against ULaLa (FFS) canceled because of the hurricane, & etc., & etc., & etc.

seriously, you almost have to want to believe this ****, and that some internet detective is smarter than most of the rest of the planet.

pass.

Are you suggesting that someone from the NCAA counted Delaware State's scholarships before declaring FSU eligibile?

(12-21-2017 05:56 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  They enforce this about as much as they do the attendance rule

Does the attendance rule really even exist anymore? I was under the impression it didn't.

(12-21-2017 07:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 05:56 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  They enforce this about as much as they do the attendance rule

Does the attendance rule really even exist anymore? I was under the impression it didn't.

Yeah u may be right...just goes to show how much they cared about it....lol

(12-21-2017 07:09 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 07:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(12-21-2017 05:56 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  They enforce this about as much as they do the attendance rule

Does the attendance rule really even exist anymore? I was under the impression it didn't.

Yeah u may be right...just goes to show how much they cared about it....lol

Found it.

Bylaw 20.9.3.3, at least as recently as 15/16, required you to average 15k in actual or paid attendance, once in any two year period.

Which if I recall correctly, at one point it was average 15k over a rolling two year period.

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(12-21-2017 06:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  The question I have is why someone would even look at a 6-6 FSU schedule and take the time and effort to even question why a FCS game would not count. Someone has to really have a hardon for FSU to even go there. Even then the chance of getting FSU removed from the bowl game....

But imagine a hypothetical situation where you (or any armchair fan) brings this out about your rival immediately after the regular season, subsequently denying that rival of a bowl game. That would make message board history.