(01-01-2018 05:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:12 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

This dude is butthurt is epic. LOL!

Butthurt over what?

I said that their season didn’t warrant a shot and the CFP agrees with me.

No a rigged system agrees. A system that benefits the blue blood programs like bama. You guys deserve it less but get a pass. You just mad Ucf took care of business where you guys choked. Like I said, scared....

Congrats to UCF

More proof Alabama didn't earn a berth in CFP

If UCF is ranked behind ANY three-loss P5 team, it's a crime.

If UCF is ranked behind EVERY two-loss P5 team, it's a crime.

UCF 13-0

Title game winner 14-1
Wisconsin 13-1

Title game loser 13-2
Semifinal loser 12-2
Seminfinal loser 12-2
Ohio St 12-2
Penn St 12-2

Miami 10-3
TCU 11-3
Ok St 10-3
Mich St 10-3
Northwestern 10-3
Washington 10-3
USC 11-3

Bottom line, UCF needs to finish 7th at worst.

(01-01-2018 04:56 PM)JHS55 Wrote:  Doesn’t matter what your win record is, it’s about ESPN making the most money from the most famous brand names, it’s really that simple, the committee answers to ESPN and FOX

I have to say that is not true. Central Florida is an unknown team. They did not have winning seasons like they did this year. ESPN did tried to get Boise State, Hawaii, Fresno State, Houston, TCU, Utah and USF into the championship picture. All of them had history of winning against P5 schools. They even elevated Northern Illinois as well, but after the beat down they got from FSU, MAC got the short end of the stick. The MAC teams that are strong may need to find a new conference to recruit better players and be in the picture like the big name brand G5 schools. MWC is equals to the PAC 12 in strength and the AAC is equals to the ACC. That is where the rest of the good players not going to the P5 schools tend to go.

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:12 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

This dude is butthurt is epic. LOL!

Butthurt over what?

I said that their season didn’t warrant a shot and the CFP agrees with me.

No a rigged system agrees. A system that benefits the blue blood programs like bama. You guys deserve it less but get a pass. You just mad Ucf took care of business where you guys choked. Like I said, scared....

If you say so...

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:12 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

This dude is butthurt is epic. LOL!

Butthurt over what?

I said that their season didn’t warrant a shot and the CFP agrees with me.

No a rigged system agrees. A system that benefits the blue blood programs like bama. You guys deserve it less but get a pass. You just mad Ucf took care of business where you guys choked. Like I said, scared....

If you say so...

Yes, I have several times.

(01-01-2018 05:23 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:12 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  This dude is butthurt is epic. LOL!

Butthurt over what?

I said that their season didn’t warrant a shot and the CFP agrees with me.

No a rigged system agrees. A system that benefits the blue blood programs like bama. You guys deserve it less but get a pass. You just mad Ucf took care of business where you guys choked. Like I said, scared....

If you say so...

Yes, I have several times.

K

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

We'll never know.

(01-01-2018 05:27 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

We'll never know.

So, you truly believe that UCF was one of the top 4 teams this year with the schedule they played?

(01-01-2018 05:27 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

We'll never know.

Actually, we do because they aren’t in the playoff.

(01-01-2018 04:43 PM)JRsec Wrote:  Congratulations Central Florida fans! Your Knights were the better team today. I'm sorry you didn't get to play Georgia Tech in the regular season because that might have helped your cause.

The problem is that UCF beat 3 ranked teams in Memphis twice and USF once. They shouldn't have needed "legitimation" by beating an unranked p5 team. The AAC continues to provide proof of it's own level of play and maybe soon our next contract will validate that

(01-01-2018 05:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:27 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

We'll never know.

Actually, we do because they aren’t in the playoff.

So because Gene Smith said so, that’s that?

(01-01-2018 05:24 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:23 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:21 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:14 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Butthurt over what?

I said that their season didn’t warrant a shot and the CFP agrees with me.

No a rigged system agrees. A system that benefits the blue blood programs like bama. You guys deserve it less but get a pass. You just mad Ucf took care of business where you guys choked. Like I said, scared....

If you say so...

Yes, I have several times.

K

Translation: I have no argument so I'm just gonna troll like the good little 'Bama fan I am!!

AAC finishes 4-3, first winning bowl record. Well done.

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Which is why there should be a lawsuit. The criteria espoused by the selection committee essentially eliminates the G5 before a single game is played. This is a fundamental departure from their fiduciary duty to treat all teams and conferences equally and to determine the BEST 4 teams in an unbiased manner. Their job is not to determine the best 4 schedules. Their duty is to determine the best 4 teams without bias. Instead, not only has the committee brought P5 bias to the selection room by leaving the G5 with virtually no representation, the committee has essentially codified their own bias by making SOS the be all end all of the selection committee process (then they were stupid enough to say so publically time and time again).

Its actually a pretty easy case to win. All you need to do is show that a G5 cannot possibly ever have a top 50 schedule (which you cannot if you play an 8 game G5 conference schedule) and play the tapes of the committee explaining their own process.

I dont think you can lose. The G5 wont do it because they would endanger what little access they by creatiing the environment that might cause a split--but the G5 would win that case with ease.

(01-01-2018 05:33 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:27 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

We'll never know.

Actually, we do because they aren’t in the playoff.

(01-01-2018 05:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Which is why there should be a lawsuit. The criteria espoused by the selection committee essentially eliminates the G5 before a single game is played. This is a fundamental departure from their fiduciary duty to treat all teams and conferences equally and to determine the BEST 4 teams in an unbiased manner. Their job is not to determine the best 4 schedules. Their duty is to determine the best 4 teams without bias. Instead, not only has the committee brought P5 bias to the selection room by leaving the G5 with virtually no representation, the committee has essentially codified their own bias by making SOS the be all end all of the selection committee process (then they were stupid enough to say so publically time and time again).

Its actually a pretty easy case to win. All you need to do is show that a G5 cannot possibly ever have a top 50 schedule (which you cannot if you play an 8 game G5 conference schedule) and play the tapes of the committee explaining their own process.

I dont think you can lose. The G5 wont do it because they would endanger what little access they by creatiing the environment that might cause a split--but the G5 would win that case with ease.

Doubt it. The issue is that the G5 conferences agreed to the setup, the committee makeup, and the criteria for selection. So, you can’t say “yes, we helped setup the rules, but now we don’t like them!”

Also, how can you not use metrics as SOS in choosing the best 4 teams? Because there are only 12-13 data points to use for 120+ teams, you can’t go by record alone. It’s basically the same selection process they use for the NCAA basketball tournament. There has to be some subjectivity when it comes to this.

I think it would have been interesting if Houston had ran the table last year. They certainly would have finished with a better resume than UCF this year.

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

Here’s the problem with that. Not many schools answer our calls, why? It’s no good if they lose to us and it’s doesnt help them if they win either. Not only that, but schedules are made years in advance how do we know who’s going to be good and who isn’t.

(01-01-2018 05:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Which is why there should be a lawsuit. The criteria espoused by the selection committee essentially eliminates the G5 before a single game is played. This is a fundamental departure from their fiduciary duty to treat all teams and conferences equally and to determine the BEST 4 teams in an unbiased manner. Their job is not to determine the best 4 schedules. Their duty is to determine the best 4 teams without bias. Instead, not only has the committee brought P5 bias to the selection room by leaving the G5 with virtually no representation, the committee has essentially codified their own bias by making SOS the be all end all of the selection committee process (then they were stupid enough to say so publically time and time again).

Its actually a pretty easy case to win. All you need to do is show that a G5 cannot possibly ever have a top 50 schedule (which you cannot if you play an 8 game G5 conference schedule) and play the tapes of the committee explaining their own process.

I dont think you can lose. The G5 wont do it because they would endanger what little access they by creatiing the environment that might cause a split--but the G5 would win that case with ease.

Plus, it could cause a lot of stink that lawmakers could go after the NCAA and the P5 for anti-trust. I would like someone in a higher above position to knock these greedy P5 officials on their knees where all G5 will now be known as P10. Look at the PAC 12 and Big 10? They both got locked out of the playoffs this year as well. Look what the the committee is bias too? They favored SEC schools over other conferences. Look at what UCF did to their second placed team?

(01-01-2018 06:10 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

Here’s the problem with that. Not many schools answer our calls, why? It’s no good if they lose to us and it’s doesnt help them if they win either. Not only that, but schedules are made years in advance how do we know who’s going to be good and who isn’t.

That’s not exactly a problem unique to the G5.

(01-01-2018 06:10 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:20 PM)leofrog Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 05:04 PM)Halfcourt Wrote:  

(01-01-2018 04:59 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It was a great season by a great team.

That’s all you can say.

Not really. You can say they deserved a shot at the NC. If you disagree, you must be one of those scared little b----es.

I have no problem saying I don’t think they deserved a shot.

Playing in the AAC just isn’t impressive or difficult enough.

That said, congrats to UCF for a fantastic season.

Agree with you. Great season by UCF, but they were not one of the top 4 teams in the country. They need to schedule better then Maryland and Georgia Tech (I know it was cancelled) in OOC games. And, before anyone says the Big P5 schools wont schedule home and homes, then you may have to play a 1 and done. It may not be fair, but it’s what needs to happen if you want to be taken seriously.

Here’s the problem with that. Not many schools answer our calls, why? It’s no good if they lose to us and it’s doesnt help them if they win either. Not only that, but schedules are made years in advance how do we know who’s going to be good and who isn’t.

Understand. But, what I read a lot from G5 schools, especially on the AAC board, is that they think they’ve “earned” home and homes with big P5 teams,and they haven’t. Heck, even smaller P5 schools can’t get those games.

There has to be creativity when creating schedules for G5 schools. TCU did it in 2010 when they took a 1 and done with Clemson.