From what I heard, FAU did not even attempt to retain Kendall Briles. The contract ran out and he was free to go. Sure, some FAU fans may have thought Briles could be Kiffin's replacement, but the Administration and Lane Kiffin did not think so. I am guessing that there is some sort of a plan for the future but FAU's offense ran like a Kiffin's offense, hard to say whether Briles' hand was even apparent in it. But that is just my personal observation.

(01-06-2018 11:49 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  From what I heard, FAU did not even attempt to retain Kendall Briles. The contract ran out and he was free to go. Sure, some FAU fans may have thought Briles could be Kiffin's replacement, but the Administration and Lane Kiffin did not think so. I am guessing that there is some sort of a plan for the future but FAU's offense ran like a Kiffin's offense, hard to say whether Briles' hand was even apparent in it. But that is just my personal observation.

that not true...it was known that before his contract was up he was leaving to houston...
he was always the target at houston, and powerful alumni were pushing for him (kb is also a uh alumni)...our old OC left over a month go.. (lsu's beat writer already said as much from his sources because lsu fans were complaining that they didnt make the hire first)

the only reason it took so long to announce and make official was political clearance. and getting the votes from the board

and the offense ran like baylors, watch the Russell Athletic Bowl 2015, it was what you ran this year (summary baylor lost ALL its qbs to injury that game. so they just handed the ball off most of the game and still scored 50).
a ton of houston fans are analyzing faus offense in our board and watching offensive breakdowns of your offense on youtube and, no offense, but your QB wasnt good at all, which is the cause for the lack of regular passing yards. watching the wku game, he didnt complete a pass thrown more than 5yds (ball in the air 5yds+) till the 4th quarters. he over shot everything

besides "running the ball" what you ran is nothing like what was ran by kiffin at any of his old stops. from formation to style was completely different. also literally in every fau game, they note how fau doesnt have a play book, and that everything your offense did was controlled by hand signs made up by KB (something that has always been done at all briles offenses, that's not a kiffin thing at all, kiffin's offense runs on a playbook)

if im fau i wouldnt be worried though, kififn is an offensive mind, he had the foresight to hire KB..he will have the foresight to hire someone else.. but that was definitely the baylor offense..
what will be interesting is if he decides to just rehire another baylor person to keep the same train going (aren't many touted ones left)..or just gets the best high powered offensive guy he can get, knowing there might be a transition period

(01-07-2018 01:13 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-06-2018 11:49 PM)goliath74 Wrote:  From what I heard, FAU did not even attempt to retain Kendall Briles. The contract ran out and he was free to go. Sure, some FAU fans may have thought Briles could be Kiffin's replacement, but the Administration and Lane Kiffin did not think so. I am guessing that there is some sort of a plan for the future but FAU's offense ran like a Kiffin's offense, hard to say whether Briles' hand was even apparent in it. But that is just my personal observation.

that not true...it was known that before his contract was up he was leaving to houston...
he was always the target at houston, and powerful alumni were pushing for him (kb is also a uh alumni)...our old OC left over a month go.. (lsu's beat writer already said as much from his sources because lsu fans were complaining that they didnt make the hire first)

the only reason it took so long to announce and make official was political clearance. and getting the votes from the board

and the offense ran like baylors, watch the Russell Athletic Bowl 2015, it was what you ran this year (summary baylor lost ALL its qbs to injury that game. so they just handed the ball off most of the game and still scored 50).
a ton of houston fans are analyzing faus offense in our board and watching offensive breakdowns of your offense on youtube and, no offense, but your QB wasnt good at all, which is the cause for the lack of regular passing yards. watching the wku game, he didnt complete a pass thrown more than 5yds (ball in the air 5yds+) till the 4th quarters. he over shot everything

besides "running the ball" what you ran is nothing like what was ran by kiffin at any of his old stops. from formation to style was completely different. also literally in every fau game, they note how fau doesnt have a play book, and that everything your offense did was controlled by hand signs made up by KB (something that has always been done at all briles offenses, that's not a kiffin thing at all, kiffin's offense runs on a playbook)

if im fau i wouldnt be worried though, kififn is an offensive mind, he had the foresight to hire KB..he will have the foresight to hire someone else.. but that was definitely the baylor offense..
what will be interesting is if he decides to just rehire another baylor person to keep the same train going (aren't many touted ones left)..or just gets the best high powered offensive guy he can get, knowing there might be a transition period

"Besides running the ball"? That's the most important part of FAU's offense. It was so before Briles and it will be so after Briles.

That was absolutely not a Baylor defense. This was a run-first, devil may care offense. Whatever works - worked.

Thing about signs - every coach today does signs, just like anyone else, FAU used a mixture of hand signs and cardboard signs. I looked at FAU's opponents this year and everyone used signs.

FAU had used a hurry-up defense for the last three years before Briles, and FAU had used it with Briles and will, most likely do it after Briles.

Sure there were some elements that Briles had brought to FAU, but FAU had always had a different personnel than anything Briles had to play with at Baylor.

(01-07-2018 01:25 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  "Besides running the ball"? That's the most important part of FAU's offense. It was so before Briles and it will be so after Briles.

That was absolutely not a Baylor defense. This was a run-first, devil may care offense. Whatever works - worked.

Thing about signs - every coach today does signs, just like anyone else, FAU used a mixture of hand signs and cardboard signs. I looked at FAU's opponents this year and everyone used signs.

FAU had used a hurry-up defense for the last three years before Briles, and FAU had used it with Briles and will, most likely do it after Briles.

Sure there were some elements that Briles had brought to FAU, but FAU had always had a different personnel than anything Briles had to play with at Baylor.

"Besides running the ball"?
My point: besides it being technically "running" plays how kiffin ran the ball at bama and usc was completely different than how it was ran at fau...
at bama and usc, it was loaded to the center and power running down the middle..with fau it was about spreading the field and getting open space to run..

and you arent familiar with a baylor offense at all..baylor's offense is RUN FIRST...people mix it up with the air raid..not sure why..there is atleast a 1000yds rusher in every briles offense the last 11 years...

fau didnt have any good qbs like at baylor...here is what baylors offense would have looked like if they didnt have a qb...notice the huge rushing numbers. KB was calling the plays, 3 baylor qbs injured, 400yds rushing the first half alone




here is an article talking about how kiffin had to get used to giving up control of the offense, becuase he hates when head coaches get too involved and how its strange because he had to give it up to style completely different that his. but he likes to add his concepts in here and there.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-o...story.html

you also dont get the playbook comment...every coach uses signs to reference plays on a playbook....there is no playbook to reference in the baylor offense..

read this article about how baylors offense worked
https://www.si.com/college-football/2016...e-football
note how it says there is no written playbook in the briles playbook like most offenses in college football (this article was before he was ever at fau).. now go back and watch faus games online (which i just did) they note it numerous times how fau has no written playbook..kendal briles just controls the offense with hand signs...a key element of the baylor offense

kiffins offense had a playbook


there an article i read this morning by Seth Galina breaking down faus offense..the summary was that your offense was baylors offense without a qb good enough to put up quite the numbers baylor did (70 in a half)

from my talk i can tell you arent familiar with the technicalities of football...there are hundreds of methodology on how to run the ball. they are hundreds of types of uptempo offenses...Results vary with all/ this wasnt kiffin's offense, you are naive to think so..and the baylor offense is extremely unique. youd need to hire a baylor guy to keep it going. just putting in anybody wont give you the same result...and kiffin doesnt know how to run the baylor offense. even says as much in the article above (he is a pro-style guy)

(01-07-2018 02:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 01:25 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  "Besides running the ball"? That's the most important part of FAU's offense. It was so before Briles and it will be so after Briles.

That was absolutely not a Baylor defense. This was a run-first, devil may care offense. Whatever works - worked.

Thing about signs - every coach today does signs, just like anyone else, FAU used a mixture of hand signs and cardboard signs. I looked at FAU's opponents this year and everyone used signs.

FAU had used a hurry-up defense for the last three years before Briles, and FAU had used it with Briles and will, most likely do it after Briles.

Sure there were some elements that Briles had brought to FAU, but FAU had always had a different personnel than anything Briles had to play with at Baylor.

"Besides running the ball"?
My point: besides it being technically "running" plays how kiffin ran the ball at bama and usc was completely different than how it was ran at fau...
at bama and usc, it was loaded to the center and power running down the middle..with fau it was about spreading the field and getting open space to run..

and you arent familiar with a baylor offense at all..baylor's offense is RUN FIRST...people mix it up with the air raid..not sure why..there is atleast a 1000yds rusher in every briles offense the last 11 years...

fau didnt have any good qbs like at baylor...here is what baylors offense would have looked like if they didnt have a qb...notice the huge rushing numbers. KB was calling the plays, 3 baylor qbs injured, 400yds rushing the first half alone




here is an article talking about how kiffin had to get used to giving up control of the offense, becuase he hates when head coaches get too involved and how its strange because he had to give it up to style completely different that his. but he likes to add his concepts in here and there.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-o...story.html

you also dont get the playbook comment...every coach uses signs to reference plays on a playbook....there is no playbook to reference in the baylor offense..

read this article about how baylors offense worked
https://www.si.com/college-football/2016...e-football
note how it says there is no written playbook in the briles playbook like most offenses in college football (this article was before he was ever at fau).. now go back and watch faus games online (which i just did) they note it numerous times how fau has no written playbook..kendal briles just controls the offense with hand signs...a key element of the baylor offense

kiffins offense had a playbook


there an article i read this morning by Seth Galina breaking down faus offense..the summary was that your offense was baylors offense without a qb good enough to put up quite the numbers baylor did (70 in a half)

from my talk i can tell you arent familiar with the technicalities of football...there are hundreds of methodology on how to run the ball. they are hundreds of types of uptempo offenses...Results vary with all/ this wasnt kiffin's offense, you are naive to think so..and the baylor offense is extremely unique. youd need to hire a baylor guy to keep it going. just putting in anybody wont give you the same result...and kiffin doesnt know how to run the baylor offense. even says as much in the article above (he is a pro-style guy)

I agree for the most part, younger driskel is not a very good qb. In the game against Tech, FAU had two huge trick plays where the receivers were wide open and kickoff return for 21 points. Tech’s inability to score in the red zone (led the nation before this game) made this game not even close.

But Kiffin deserves some credit though he made numerous calls that only the head coach could. He went for it on four down on his own 22 yard line. He made gutsy calls like this all year that put FAU in position to win. Also Kiffin adapted a style to win because the players at Bama and USC are different than FAU.

Briles is a way better offensive coach than Kiffin. It will be very hard for someone else to come to FAU to keep that level of output. Briles was available before purely due to the extreme level of baggage he brought.

(01-07-2018 02:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 01:25 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  "Besides running the ball"? That's the most important part of FAU's offense. It was so before Briles and it will be so after Briles.

That was absolutely not a Baylor defense. This was a run-first, devil may care offense. Whatever works - worked.

Thing about signs - every coach today does signs, just like anyone else, FAU used a mixture of hand signs and cardboard signs. I looked at FAU's opponents this year and everyone used signs.

FAU had used a hurry-up defense for the last three years before Briles, and FAU had used it with Briles and will, most likely do it after Briles.

Sure there were some elements that Briles had brought to FAU, but FAU had always had a different personnel than anything Briles had to play with at Baylor.

"Besides running the ball"?
My point: besides it being technically "running" plays how kiffin ran the ball at bama and usc was completely different than how it was ran at fau...
at bama and usc, it was loaded to the center and power running down the middle..with fau it was about spreading the field and getting open space to run..

and you arent familiar with a baylor offense at all..baylor's offense is RUN FIRST...people mix it up with the air raid..not sure why..there is atleast a 1000yds rusher in every briles offense the last 11 years...

fau didnt have any good qbs like at baylor...here is what baylors offense would have looked like if they didnt have a qb...notice the huge rushing numbers. KB was calling the plays, 3 baylor qbs injured, 400yds rushing the first half alone




here is an article talking about how kiffin had to get used to giving up control of the offense, becuase he hates when head coaches get too involved and how its strange because he had to give it up to style completely different that his. but he likes to add his concepts in here and there.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-o...story.html

you also dont get the playbook comment...every coach uses signs to reference plays on a playbook....there is no playbook to reference in the baylor offense..

read this article about how baylors offense worked
https://www.si.com/college-football/2016...e-football
note how it says there is no written playbook in the briles playbook like most offenses in college football (this article was before he was ever at fau).. now go back and watch faus games online (which i just did) they note it numerous times how fau has no written playbook..kendal briles just controls the offense with hand signs...a key element of the baylor offense

kiffins offense had a playbook


there an article i read this morning by Seth Galina breaking down faus offense..the summary was that your offense was baylors offense without a qb good enough to put up quite the numbers baylor did (70 in a half)

from my talk i can tell you arent familiar with the technicalities of football...there are hundreds of methodology on how to run the ball. they are hundreds of types of uptempo offenses...Results vary with all/ this wasnt kiffin's offense, you are naive to think so..and the baylor offense is extremely unique. youd need to hire a baylor guy to keep it going. just putting in anybody wont give you the same result...and kiffin doesnt know how to run the baylor offense. even says as much in the article above (he is a pro-style guy)

That's just silly. FAU does run through the middle between the tackles, quite a bit. Singletary got behind one of the three all-conference OLs (why do you think FAU had 3 1st team all-conference OLs?) and ran straight up, north-south. So, you are wrong there, already. Realizing that you had no clue of how FAU played, I stopped reading your post there.

Now, FAU may change run plays now that two of those big mothers up front are graduating. But that is for the next year. Reality is Briles may have installed Baylor offense at FAU in August, but by game 4 FAU has totally thrown it out the window when the entire offensive strategy changed with the replacement of the starting QB.

From that point on, FAU's offense was nothing like Baylor's offense. Different styles, different plays. Granted, FAU's personnel was different and running Baylor's offense without Baylor's personnel is tough. Sounds like you haven't watched many of FAU's games. I would bet you had not seen a single FAU game outside of a few highlights.

Wont matter that much. Kiffin can coach circles around everyone else in the conference.

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I love how these AAC guys are now coming over trying to tell Florida Atlantic fans how their offense is run after probably seeing 2-3 games at most. And now all of a sudden Briles is the king of offense when all you guys tried to diminish fau all year. It's quite hilarious

I think we know our school a hell of a lot more than you guys. We watch every play of every game I don't think you guys are seeking out Florida Atlantic on streaming services. Not a hard guess ..

The guy saying Briles is a better offensive mind than Kiffin is beyond absurd. There's a reason why Lane has had so many head jobs and why Briles is looking for his first

Florida Atlantic will be fine. The doomsayers are either aac trolls or our own conference mates hoping for our downfall

(01-07-2018 10:38 AM)Ragu Wrote:  I love how these AAC guys are now coming over trying to tell Florida Atlantic fans how their offense is run after probably seeing 2-3 games at most. And now all of a sudden Briles is the king of offense when all you guys tried to diminish fau all year. It's quite hilarious

I think we know our school a hell of a lot more than you guys. We watch every play of every game I don't think you guys are seeking out Florida Atlantic on streaming services. Not a hard guess ..

The guy saying Briles is a better offensive mind than Kiffin is beyond absurd. There's a reason why Lane has had so many head jobs and why Briles is looking for his first

Florida Atlantic will be fine. The doomsayers are either aac trolls or our own conference mates hoping for our downfall

That's exactly it, they hadn't seen a single game and start making stuff up. I can not believe that guy said FAU does not predominantly run between-the-tackles. That's exactly where Singletary had made his mark on the way to NCAA-leading 33 TDs.

(01-07-2018 10:06 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  That's just silly. FAU does run through the middle between the tackles, quite a bit. Singletary got behind one of the three all-conference OLs (why do you think FAU had 3 1st team all-conference OLs?) and ran straight up, north-south. So, you are wrong there, already. Realizing that you had no clue of how FAU played, I stopped reading your post there.
Secondly, Baylor's offense was nothing like FAU's offense. Different styles, different plays. Granted, FAU's personnel was different and running Baylor's offense without Baylor's personnel is tough. SOunds like you haven't watched many of FAU's games.

do you know what it means to spread the field? if you arent running down the middle you arent spreading the field..you are just pushing defenders to the corners...spreading the field means the defense has no clue where the ball will be run...in bama and usc we all know where the ball was going, it was can you stop it..,.

you honestly have no clue what you are talking about...even if you didnt want to believe me, i posted 3 links that ALL SAY they the baylor offense was what was ran at FAU..one of which kiffin himself said briles ran the baylor system not his own and he had little to do with it.

you are stubborn ignoring reality because you just want to believe what you still have was the magic, not what left

here is ONE more link saying you ran the baylor offense from the horses mouth.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fau-o...story.html

Quote:The system has spread around the country thanks to Briles’ assistants moving on to bigger jobs. And Kendal Briles brought it to FAU.

Quote:McNeal said FAU will watch some Baylor film “to see what it’s supposed to look like.”

Quote:McNeal said the receivers’ job in Briles’ offense is simple: get open and get up field. Kiffin has said before that receivers have more freedom in Briles’ offense than he’s seen in any offense before.

but i agree with dawgx and the shifty. in my original post i even said it myself.. kiffin had the forsight to hire briles..he will have a plan to bring someone else in.

(01-07-2018 10:38 AM)Ragu Wrote:  I love how these AAC guys are now coming over trying to tell Florida Atlantic fans how their offense is run after probably seeing 2-3 games at most. And now all of a sudden Briles is the king of offense when all you guys tried to diminish fau all year. It's quite hilarious

I think we know our school a hell of a lot more than you guys. We watch every play of every game I don't think you guys are seeking out Florida Atlantic on streaming services. Not a hard guess ..

The guy saying Briles is a better offensive mind than Kiffin is beyond absurd. There's a reason why Lane has had so many head jobs and why Briles is looking for his first

Florida Atlantic will be fine. The doomsayers are either aac trolls or our own conference mates hoping for our downfall

i still diminished fau in in post. i noted how bad your qb was numerous times..
and you are acting like im the only one saying this. YOUR HEAD COACH says it was the baylor offense...i posted 2 other articles from offensive experts saying it was the baylor offense who broke it down

here is another break down play by play, explaining what is happening, saying you ran the baylor offense but just with a really really bad qb
https://www.sbnation.com/college-footbal...ic-offense

also i noted in my original post most of your offense is broken down on youtube for every game.. i didnt need to watch it live

Yep you can watch a few plays on YouTube and educate alumni who watch every play of every game and follow the team daily. Makes perfect sense Man message boards have some stupid logic on them

Like I said , Briles was not hailed by you guys all year until he left for the aac. Now you guys come over here to troll and revise your past thoughts on fau. Now we had a powerhouse offense instead of being a mediocre team feasting on a bad conference. Got it!

(01-07-2018 10:41 AM)goliath74 Wrote:  

(01-07-2018 10:38 AM)Ragu Wrote:  I love how these AAC guys are now coming over trying to tell Florida Atlantic fans how their offense is run after probably seeing 2-3 games at most. And now all of a sudden Briles is the king of offense when all you guys tried to diminish fau all year. It's quite hilarious

I think we know our school a hell of a lot more than you guys. We watch every play of every game I don't think you guys are seeking out Florida Atlantic on streaming services. Not a hard guess ..

The guy saying Briles is a better offensive mind than Kiffin is beyond absurd. There's a reason why Lane has had so many head jobs and why Briles is looking for his first

Florida Atlantic will be fine. The doomsayers are either aac trolls or our own conference mates hoping for our downfall

That's exactly it, they hadn't seen a single game and start making stuff up. I can not believe that guy said FAU does not predominantly run between-the-tackles. That's exactly where Singletary had made his mark on the way to NCAA-leading 33 TDs.

First of all, Baylor ran a super quick tempo offense under Briles. As they got more talent, the pass offense took off but the quick style. There's hurry up and then there is the tempo that Baylor and Mizzou ran which are much faster than the regular hurry up. That was not Kiffin. That's Briles right there. The goal was to snap the ball while the defenses subbed out so after the first 12 men on the field penalty is called, the D can't sub out which gives the O the advantage to open the play book up against mismatches. Getting the offense to operate so fast that the D can't make changes between plays. That's a Briles philosophy. Kiffin was smart to adapt to it and support it.

Will Kiffin run that? He may try but he's the HC and it's tough to be an HC and be the OC at the same time. Ask Blake Anderson how that turned out this year?

Is this the end of FAU's run? No. Kiffin will find another OC. There are plenty out there.

Will things change slightly? Of course. Every team is different. However, you can't say Briles didn't have an impact. He did. He did a great job in adjusting to what they had and using their talent effectively. Kiffin was a Head Coach with USC, UT and the raiders. At Oakland and at USC, he started out well but as time went by, the wheels fell off. This will be his test to truly see how he replaces important parts and manages his players.

That being said, I can't say I'm not more optimistic now than I was. :-)

Where did I say Briles didn't have an impact? Message boards are frustrating because people can flat out make things up or twist words. Briles is a very good OC. He's not Kiffin. He's never been a head coach and doesn't have near the respect that Kiffin has for his offensive mind

Briles brought elements of the Baylor offense but it was a mash up as goliath (who watches the games tried to educate the aac trolls with) said above

People are also ignoring that a lot of Kiffin players are coming in including a highly touted former Oklahoma qb recruit and a West Virginia wr recruit. Johnson who was a former fsu recruit at qb might be back too. Team might be more cohesive having Kiffin for a year plus the talent could be even better

(01-07-2018 11:11 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Yep you can watch a few plays on YouTube and educate alumni who watch every play of every game and follow the team daily. Makes perfect sense Man message boards have some stupid logic on them

Like I said , Briles was not hailed by you guys all year until he left for the aac. Now you guys come over here to troll and revise your past thoughts on fau. Now we had a powerhouse offense instead of being a mediocre team feasting on a bad conference. Got it!

few plays on youtube? every offensive play, of every game...
how does being a fan mean your eyes decides whats happenin

briles isnt hailed anywhere becuase of what happened at baylor...crediting him with anything is percieved a supporting him

stupid logic: the head coach says we run the baylor offense and that his OC completely ran the offense.. the OC leaves, fau fans: it was kiffin who ran the offense!
that is message board logic..homer logic

ive given you 7 links by experts and YOUR coaching staff now, 2 of which kiffin himself said he ran the baylor system..one with kiffin saying it was completely different than his offense..but yet you are still in denial

also my opinion of fau hasnt change, your stats and wins are inflated by your conference schedule.. putting up those kind of number while ranking #111 in adjusted passing efficiency is a sign of your competition (note it said efficiency not yards, comp% or tds...it accounts for how many times you pass and type of passes, and adjusts it) you had one of the worst effective passing teams in the nation. that is exploited in a deeper league

and if you remember our debate..fau fans were like, we'd beat navy by 20+ if we plyed today, that our offense in now magically that much better. i said your offense improved but not that much, defensive quality also went down...i then said okay lets pretend your offense improved that much, navy stills scored 42 points...that you couldnt stop them even a little

Yeah sorry but I don't believe you broke down tons of film on fau this year at any time. I think you're full of it

Again you can't educate me on my school It's not going to work

Put it on safety. No need to get defensive. No twisting of words going on. It's a big loss. However, Kiffin will get someone else who's either a diamond in the rough or someone currently in the Leper Colony that he can use to be successful with.

We'll see but Briles is a big talent and this will have an impact on FAU's upcoming year.

(01-07-2018 11:33 AM)Ragu Wrote:  Yeah sorry but I don't believe you broke down tons of film on fau this year at any time. I think you're full of it

Again you can't educate me on my school It's not going to work

I DIDNT BREAK THEM DOWN!!!!

there are 10 min clips of every game showing EVERY offensive play on youtube..

i also posted a link from a specialist breaking down faus offense, i aso posted links from your hed coach saying you ran the baylor offense...

i guess kiffin doesnt even know his own team??

It was a mash up once again. Elements of a few systems. You'd know that if you watched instead of reading articles on Briles and seeing a few plays on YouTube

Now run along back to your board