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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-14-2018 07:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 05:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The day the Big 12 pays $40 mil/year for 2 directional schools in essentially the same market (neither of which deliver it), is the day UT, OU, OSU, and KU bolt for the SEC and B1G.

One of the little directional schools has the 2nd largest enrollment and a $65 million budget and ballooning. Plus 2 major bowl wins in 5 years. Plus delivered massive ratings and 2nd highest peach bowl ratings ever with Notre Dame and LSU playing at the same time. I know the big 12 isn't expanding, but the dig a the directional schools doesn't have any basis. What direction is central anyway?

Fighting the directional battle is a losing one. I wish that UCF fans would realize this. A simple name change back to Florida Technological University fixes these problems. Everybody sees it but UCF fans.
Usf can do this too by renaming to the "University of the State of Florida". Let's see them call us a directional school then.

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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-14-2018 07:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 05:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The day the Big 12 pays $40 mil/year for 2 directional schools in essentially the same market (neither of which deliver it), is the day UT, OU, OSU, and KU bolt for the SEC and B1G.

One of the little directional schools has the 2nd largest enrollment and a $65 million budget and ballooning. Plus 2 major bowl wins in 5 years. Plus delivered massive ratings and 2nd highest peach bowl ratings ever with Notre Dame and LSU playing at the same time. I know the big 12 isn't expanding, but the dig a the directional schools doesn't have any basis. What direction is central anyway?

Fighting the directional battle is a losing one. I wish that UCF fans would realize this. A simple name change back to Florida Technological University fixes these problems. Everybody sees it but UCF fans.

UCF should have never changed their name in the first place but changing back now after the success we had would be squandering everything we worked for imo. The media would belittle us for changing it saying we have no cohesiveness, etc. Anyway USC is a directional name so it can work with time. People are going to beat us back until we get into a power conference no matter what name we have.
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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-15-2018 10:29 AM)knightmite Wrote:  
(01-14-2018 07:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 05:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The day the Big 12 pays $40 mil/year for 2 directional schools in essentially the same market (neither of which deliver it), is the day UT, OU, OSU, and KU bolt for the SEC and B1G.

One of the little directional schools has the 2nd largest enrollment and a $65 million budget and ballooning. Plus 2 major bowl wins in 5 years. Plus delivered massive ratings and 2nd highest peach bowl ratings ever with Notre Dame and LSU playing at the same time. I know the big 12 isn't expanding, but the dig a the directional schools doesn't have any basis. What direction is central anyway?

Fighting the directional battle is a losing one. I wish that UCF fans would realize this. A simple name change back to Florida Technological University fixes these problems. Everybody sees it but UCF fans.

UCF should have never changed their name in the first place but changing back now after the success we had would be squandering everything we worked for imo. The media would belittle us for changing it saying we have no cohesiveness, etc. Anyway USC is a directional name so it can work with time. People are going to beat us back until we get into a power conference no matter what name we have.

Florida Tech Black Bears or Citronauts.
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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-15-2018 10:29 AM)knightmite Wrote:  
(01-14-2018 07:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 05:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The day the Big 12 pays $40 mil/year for 2 directional schools in essentially the same market (neither of which deliver it), is the day UT, OU, OSU, and KU bolt for the SEC and B1G.

One of the little directional schools has the 2nd largest enrollment and a $65 million budget and ballooning. Plus 2 major bowl wins in 5 years. Plus delivered massive ratings and 2nd highest peach bowl ratings ever with Notre Dame and LSU playing at the same time. I know the big 12 isn't expanding, but the dig a the directional schools doesn't have any basis. What direction is central anyway?

Fighting the directional battle is a losing one. I wish that UCF fans would realize this. A simple name change back to Florida Technological University fixes these problems. Everybody sees it but UCF fans.

UCF should have never changed their name in the first place but changing back now after the success we had would be squandering everything we worked for imo. The media would belittle us for changing it saying we have no cohesiveness, etc. Anyway USC is a directional name so it can work with time. People are going to beat us back until we get into a power conference no matter what name we have.

Staaaaaph! USC is not a directional school.
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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-15-2018 10:38 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:29 AM)knightmite Wrote:  
(01-14-2018 07:18 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 08:38 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(01-13-2018 05:19 PM)Kronke Wrote:  The day the Big 12 pays $40 mil/year for 2 directional schools in essentially the same market (neither of which deliver it), is the day UT, OU, OSU, and KU bolt for the SEC and B1G.

One of the little directional schools has the 2nd largest enrollment and a $65 million budget and ballooning. Plus 2 major bowl wins in 5 years. Plus delivered massive ratings and 2nd highest peach bowl ratings ever with Notre Dame and LSU playing at the same time. I know the big 12 isn't expanding, but the dig a the directional schools doesn't have any basis. What direction is central anyway?

Fighting the directional battle is a losing one. I wish that UCF fans would realize this. A simple name change back to Florida Technological University fixes these problems. Everybody sees it but UCF fans.

UCF should have never changed their name in the first place but changing back now after the success we had would be squandering everything we worked for imo. The media would belittle us for changing it saying we have no cohesiveness, etc. Anyway USC is a directional name so it can work with time. People are going to beat us back until we get into a power conference no matter what name we have.

Florida Tech Black Bears or Citronauts.

Citronauts all day.
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After how they treated UCF and USF last year at this time and some of their more recent quotes they will never add us.

This sounds stupid but USF would get crossed off the list immediately for their hook em horns celebration. Texas's conference is not going to allow that
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News flash

Conference expansion is DEAD, boys and girls.
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(01-15-2018 10:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  News flash

Conference expansion is DEAD, boys and girls.

In 2025, so is the Big 12.02-13-banana
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(01-15-2018 10:24 PM)The Brown Bull Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  News flash

Conference expansion is DEAD, boys and girls.

In 2025, so is the Big 12.02-13-banana

UT and OU won't be around for anything big12 future expansion related nonsense... Heck, they're one foot out the door already.

I'm telling you, conference expansion is DEAD
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Im totally fine Houston remaining in this league.

The AAC is already a Power league all we need is a reasonable upgraded new tv deal with enough bells... $$$... and... whistles... tv exposure.
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Only takes a majority vote to dissolve the Big12 so if Texas and OU are leaving along with their little brothers Tech and State, they just gotta grab two more to get to a majority. Dissolving the conference saves them millions. This is the scenario where the AAC and MWC do the inviting and are not dissected.

_______________

1. The Big XII is registered as a corporation & the By-Laws specifically state that they follow the laws of Delaware with regard to the corporation.

2. There is no provision in the By-Laws for dissolution of the conference. Absent this, the laws governing corporations in the state of Delaware prevail.

3. The following & only the following are identified in the By-Laws as actions which require a 75% vote:
- Amendments or modifications to the By-Laws
- Admission of new members
- Suspension, expulsion, or probation of current members
- Amendments or modifications to the role or authority of Board or Committees
- Approval of contracts re football bowl games
- Approval of policies or modification of revenue distribution
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Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
Still need to convince me Texas is leaving when they make more than other conferences and get to call the shots.

Also kidding yourself if you don’t think OU and Texas aren’t working in concert with each other.

Anyone notice how Texas didn’t raise a stink when A&M left, conspiracy theorist in me believes A&M will support Texas if they ever do choose to leave so they don’t have to take a little brother.
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(01-15-2018 09:11 PM)knightastic Wrote:  After how they treated UCF and USF last year at this time and some of their more recent quotes they will never add us.

This sounds stupid but USF would get crossed off the list immediately for their hook em horns celebration. Texas's conference is not going to allow that

Totally agree, No one will be added. This thread needs to die.
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(01-15-2018 10:53 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Only takes a majority vote to dissolve the Big12 so if Texas and OU are leaving along with their little brothers Tech and State, they just gotta grab two more to get to a majority. Dissolving the conference saves them millions. This is the scenario where the AAC and MWC do the inviting and are not dissected.

_______________

1. The Big XII is registered as a corporation & the By-Laws specifically state that they follow the laws of Delaware with regard to the corporation.

2. There is no provision in the By-Laws for dissolution of the conference. Absent this, the laws governing corporations in the state of Delaware prevail.

3. The following & only the following are identified in the By-Laws as actions which require a 75% vote:
- Amendments or modifications to the By-Laws
- Admission of new members
- Suspension, expulsion, or probation of current members
- Amendments or modifications to the role or authority of Board or Committees
- Approval of contracts re football bowl games
- Approval of policies or modification of revenue distribution

If Houston was in the Big12 and were left behind the AAC would be the better ideal landing spot over the one team mwc... cough... Boise... cough.
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RE: Congressman lobbies big 12 to consider USF and UCF
(01-15-2018 10:53 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Only takes a majority vote to dissolve the Big12 so if Texas and OU are leaving along with their little brothers Tech and State, they just gotta grab two more to get to a majority. Dissolving the conference saves them millions. This is the scenario where the AAC and MWC do the inviting and are not dissected.

_______________

1. The Big XII is registered as a corporation & the By-Laws specifically state that they follow the laws of Delaware with regard to the corporation.

2. There is no provision in the By-Laws for dissolution of the conference. Absent this, the laws governing corporations in the state of Delaware prevail.

3. The following & only the following are identified in the By-Laws as actions which require a 75% vote:
- Amendments or modifications to the By-Laws
- Admission of new members
- Suspension, expulsion, or probation of current members
- Amendments or modifications to the role or authority of Board or Committees
- Approval of contracts re football bowl games
- Approval of policies or modification of revenue distribution

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdf...Bylaws.pdf

you do not know what you are talking about

(b)
The following actions may be taken only if approved by the
affirmative vote of a Supermajority of Disinterested Directors (as
defined below):

(2)
The dissolution, liquidation, winding-up, merger,
sale, or transfer of all or substantially all of the
assets of the Conference;
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(01-15-2018 10:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  News flash

Conference expansion is DEAD, boys and girls.

Newsflash

They said the same thing in the 2009. Tell me again what happened after that?
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(01-16-2018 02:28 AM)TodgeRodge Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:53 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  Only takes a majority vote to dissolve the Big12 so if Texas and OU are leaving along with their little brothers Tech and State, they just gotta grab two more to get to a majority. Dissolving the conference saves them millions. This is the scenario where the AAC and MWC do the inviting and are not dissected.

_______________

1. The Big XII is registered as a corporation & the By-Laws specifically state that they follow the laws of Delaware with regard to the corporation.

2. There is no provision in the By-Laws for dissolution of the conference. Absent this, the laws governing corporations in the state of Delaware prevail.

3. The following & only the following are identified in the By-Laws as actions which require a 75% vote:
- Amendments or modifications to the By-Laws
- Admission of new members
- Suspension, expulsion, or probation of current members
- Amendments or modifications to the role or authority of Board or Committees
- Approval of contracts re football bowl games
- Approval of policies or modification of revenue distribution

http://www.big12sports.com/fls/10410/pdf...Bylaws.pdf

you do not know what you are talking about

(b)
The following actions may be taken only if approved by the
affirmative vote of a Supermajority of Disinterested Directors (as
defined below):

(2)
The dissolution, liquidation, winding-up, merger,
sale, or transfer of all or substantially all of the
assets of the Conference;

Ahhhh, I took old data I see from another posting and I stand corrected....but you didn't have to be douche about it. 07-coffee3
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(01-16-2018 08:50 AM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 10:19 PM)BigHouston Wrote:  News flash

Conference expansion is DEAD, boys and girls.

Newsflash

They said the same thing in the 2009. Tell me again what happened after that?

UConn going to the NEWbigeast and football taking a nosedive in an empty pool wouldn't suprise me either.
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