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RE: Dallas Morning News - CFP / UCF
(01-12-2018 07:09 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Traditionalist will say college football is the only sport where every game matters.

By giving an auto bid for conference champs, it means that a team can rest players during a conference game if it’s already qualified for the conference title match.

Every game matters more if you have to win your conference to qualify. Did the Alabama v Auburn game matter? No.

If it’s 8or 16you still have to play your tail off to get one of the wild card spots.

Traditionalists have it wrong.
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My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4
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(01-12-2018 07:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4

I'm with this. If that makes me an elitist, so be it. Play the game of life to WIN. 07-coffee3
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(01-12-2018 07:50 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 07:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4

I'm with this. If that makes me an elitist, so be it. Play the game of life to WIN. 07-coffee3

Exactly ^^^^^This. All of a sudden the AAC is some sort of g5 representative for an expanded playoff with a g5 auto-bid. First off UCF won that game for themselves and their fans, but secondly as another data point for the AAC to use that strengthens our own argument for p6 status. The same g4 conferences were cooking up some crazy g4 playoff while we've been working on winning NY6 bowls and men's Ncaa men's and women's basketball championships,and building up our facilities. For the g4 trolls that may hate this, sorry it's nothing personal 07-coffee3
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(01-12-2018 07:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4

This this this!!
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(01-12-2018 11:50 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 11:20 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Most sense is 14 with the 10 Conference champions at with the Top four teams getting byes and no more than two teams from a single conference and a Top 10 Notre Dame/Independent stipulation. First round games at the home stadiums of the higher ranked team. No one can make a LOGICAL argument against that.

This year it would've been:
1: Clemson
2: Oklahoma
3: Georgia
4: Alabama
5: Ohio State
6: Wisconsin
7: USC
8: Miami
9: Washington
10: UCF
11: Boise State
12: FAU
13: Toledo
14: Troy State

Would've made the "play-ins":
Ohio State-Troy State (Blowout win, as it should be in every situation like this)
Wisconsin-Toledo (potentially compelling)
USC-FAU (extremely entertaining offensive explosion)
Miami-Boise State (VERY fun game)
Washington-UCF (VERY fun game)

Then the second round plays the four games in four of the NY6, with the semis being in the 2 remaining (the six rotate every year) with a true National Championship game to top it off.

You solve the too many games argument by making conference take 8 game regular season schedules OR knocking off one out of conference game since the conference season becomes much more important...or you know just telling people that EVERY OTHER DIVISION OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL DOES THIS SO IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T A REASONABLE ARGUMENT.

Bowlcations will still be available for all teams not in the playoff obviously, in order to appease the old people wearing oddly colored suits who like to stand on shoddily built stages in the middle of half filled stadia.

But alas...money, etc.

Think how much cash March Madness brings in. Now think how much money this would bring in. Even your casual football fan would watch a majority of these games.

Exactly. March Madness is all about Cinderella and the upsets. There is no Cinderella in the current set up. Make it happen.
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(01-12-2018 06:47 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:31 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 06:10 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I like the idea of a 6 team playoff with ALL conference champs only, as the author suggested. That means all the P5 + the best G5. I could live with that.

An 8 team playoff doesn't ensure all conference champs, unless you specify.

Also, a 6-team prevents the last seed (always the non-P5 guy) from having to play the #1 seed right off the bat every year.

This is a non-starter because of Notre Dame.

Well hell, it's also a non-starter b/c the SEC and B1G want to keep the door open to 2 of their teams in the same year.

Doesn't ban us from discussing it, lol. Still a reasonable idea.

I guess my point is, we like to talk of things that could actually work out, even if the powers that be won't let it happen.

LOL. Yeah, nobody on a message board EVER brings up anything that won't work. 03-lmfao
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I said this weeks ago on this message board 6 teams playoff, I hope it comes to fruition.

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(01-12-2018 07:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4

I agree, but if it's necessary to get the playoff to 6, so
be it. By the time it grows to 8, perhaps we'd have a national championship, thus cementing our own berth in an 8 team playoff.
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(01-13-2018 12:29 PM)Chappy Wrote:  
(01-12-2018 07:39 PM)Tigersmoke4 Wrote:  My problem with the "best g5 champ" is that it'll actually mean that the AAC is just another g5 for life, and out conference will never be in control of its future. Just look at the to early top 25 polls. We're not getting any respect as usual. I think that I feel the same way as Aresco and our school presidents in that we should/are fighting for an AAC auto-bid. At that point the p6- g4 divide would be official. Screw the g4

I agree, but if it's necessary to get the playoff to 6, so
be it. By the time it grows to 8, perhaps we'd have a national championship, thus cementing our own berth in an 8 team playoff.

I tend to think that the p5 may be more willing to grant the AAC the outright auto-bid. I don't think the committee has a problem with the AAC as much as the thought of an AppSt or La tech or Wyoming going undefeated and costing everyone money. Heck the committee held off on their final ranking to give Navy a chance to pass an undefeated WMU by winning out. Their won't be a 6 team playoff. If they were to expand it'll be an 8 team field with p5 auto-bids and yes a AAC auto-bid while the g4 being allowed in if their champ is ranked higher than 12th and an auto-bid champ (AAC) is lower07-coffee3
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Pipe dream there are any changes for a long while. This format earned big ratings. Things will stay just as they are.
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The only real solution is sending the G4 to FCS with similar budgets. Then the p6 can battle it out.
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