(01-14-2018 03:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:55 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Not Anonymous stories....Graham said that 'he had not heard one account in the press about what went down that was inaccurate'. And he also said that he pointed out Trump's to him in the meeting and exchanged words with him about his statements.

Sure, Lindsay Graham is in the bag for the Democrats. LOL. He votes with Trump, what 97% of the time or more?

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Besides, do you disagree with Trump's comments? Seriously, if you don't think what he said (and Trump now says four days later he didn't) was wrong, then why get upset if people attribute it to him?

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites some of you are for believing any negative thing no matter how poorly sourced while deriding others who believe a decorated war hero.

I don't care whether he said it or not, because its true. Its not like he said it in a public speech. And its got nothing to do with racism. Anybody not afflicted with TDS understood what he meant-we don't need a bunch of poor, unskilled immigrants. People who deride Trump for being racist or anti-gay (I can't keep up with what letters y'all are using these days) simply give up their credibility. There's plenty of things to criticize Trump on. Those are not among those things.

You'll find out in November that the advancement and normalization of open bigotry and racism by Trump and his supporters is the number one issue in this country. Nothing else really matters so long as there's an existential threat to our communities.

Get real. The country is at full employment, and recruiters are saying if they don't get in contact with a prospect within 24 hours, they will have already taken another job. See my "The Trump Economy" thread for a reality check.

You went all in on identity politics in 2016, and got your ass handed to you. It seems like you still haven't learned any better.

You lost by 3 million votes in 2016. You just lost a friggin' Senate seat in Alabama to a candidate that is, quite frankly, pretty much a mirror image of Donald Trump. Good luck with that.

And you guys got crushed in Virginia. Went from a two thirds majority, to a 1 seat majority based upon a coin toss.

We shall see.

(01-14-2018 02:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Tom's truth = "Open bigotry and racism"

Reality = African-American unemployment is at 6.8% -- an all-time low. The disabled and historically discriminated against are finding themselves with great opportunities. Even ex-cons are being swooped up before they are released at $14/hr, with offers of training into salaried, career positions.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-840084.html

And yet, you're getting 98% of African American women voting for the Dems and doing so in a special election with no African American candidates on the ballot in greater voting percentages than they came out for Obama.

The reality is that the poor are still poor. I'm wondering what the GOP's attacks on Obamacare are going to bring about on Novermber 1, when the new Obamacare marketplace plans come out.

(01-14-2018 03:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:55 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Not Anonymous stories....Graham said that 'he had not heard one account in the press about what went down that was inaccurate'. And he also said that he pointed out Trump's to him in the meeting and exchanged words with him about his statements.

Sure, Lindsay Graham is in the bag for the Democrats. LOL. He votes with Trump, what 97% of the time or more?

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Besides, do you disagree with Trump's comments? Seriously, if you don't think what he said (and Trump now says four days later he didn't) was wrong, then why get upset if people attribute it to him?

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites some of you are for believing any negative thing no matter how poorly sourced while deriding others who believe a decorated war hero.

I don't care whether he said it or not, because its true. Its not like he said it in a public speech. And its got nothing to do with racism. Anybody not afflicted with TDS understood what he meant-we don't need a bunch of poor, unskilled immigrants. People who deride Trump for being racist or anti-gay (I can't keep up with what letters y'all are using these days) simply give up their credibility. There's plenty of things to criticize Trump on. Those are not among those things.

You'll find out in November that the advancement and normalization of open bigotry and racism by Trump and his supporters is the number one issue in this country. Nothing else really matters so long as there's an existential threat to our communities.

Get real. The country is at full employment, and recruiters are saying if they don't get in contact with a prospect within 24 hours, they will have already taken another job. See my "The Trump Economy" thread for a reality check.

You went all in on identity politics in 2016, and got your ass handed to you. It seems like you still haven't learned any better.

You lost by 3 million votes in 2016. You just lost a friggin' Senate seat in Alabama to a candidate that is, quite frankly, pretty much a mirror image of Donald Trump. Good luck with that.

And you guys got crushed in Virginia. Went from a two thirds majority, to a 1 seat majority based upon a coin toss.

Illegal votes aside, you still don't seem to understand the rules of the game. President Trump didn't play to win the popular vote, he played to win the Presidency.

The fact that you are still using an invalid justification for your loss as a prediction for your future success is mind boggling.

Wittgenstein's ruler.

(01-14-2018 02:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:21 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Trump said it, its been confirmed by Durbin and Graham. Either way, Some of y'all think his comments were okay.

DJT doesn't let things slide. He didn't deny the comments for four days? Please. Spare. Us. Anyone think that's credible?

Now, lets talk about DJT's history of racism

1) Trump Organization repeatedly getting busted for racism in its business practices
2) Trump calling for the death penalty for the Central Park 5. When it turned out that they were completely exonerated, Trump refused to apologize for trying to get them killed by the state
3) Trump's Birtherism, which he has not recanted
4) Trump's opening statement in his Presidential campaign, which was clearly racist
5) Trump's refusal to condemn David Duke for several days.
6) Trump's opinion that Mexican Americans cannot be Federal Judges
7) Trump's attacks on the family of a dead American hero
8) Trump's saying "all Haitians have AIDS"
9) Trump's selective outrage at the non-white members of his business council resigning, but not the white members
10) Trump's opinion that black people cannot protest police brutality in any forum seen by white Conservatives
11) Trump's equation of literal racist, Nazi terrorists with Heather Heyer
12) Trump's bigoted travel ban
13) Trump's immediate response to violent acts committed by persons of color, but his always delayed or muted or non-existent response to those acts committed by white persons
14) His open support for Roy Moore, a racist who led the opposition to two separate attempts to revise Alabama's constitution to no longer prohibit integrated schools
15) Trump's demand that persons of color more hurdles than white voters when voting. Minority voters move more often, so ID requirements have a higher cost to them

And so on...and so on.

Trump said it. Its been confirmed by 2 people there, one of whom is a Republican who supports much of Trumps agenda, and more importantly the Trump administration - which doesn't let any attack slide - waited 90 hours to say 'it never happened'? Please.

Why would Lindsay Graham agree with Durbin? It certainly cannot help him in a GOP primary in SC?

Wow. A list of 15 items, of which only #1 (from 45 years ago when a lot of places discriminated in housing) has the least bit to do with racism (#6 would if you weren't misrepresenting what he said).

Central Park Five?
Birtherism?
Charlottesville?
Waiting to see if people would allow him to refuse to condemn David Duke for several days?

Man you're pretty far gone if you can't see the racism in those actions.

And regarding Judge Curiel. He opined that Judge Curiel, simply because he was Mexican American, could not be a judge in his case. I don't see how you spin it as anything other than flat out racism.

How many people wanted to string up the police officer in Ferguson, because of the "Hands up, don't shoot" lie? It was a horrendous crime. Like many others, he jumped the gun on wanting the guilty punished. How many wanted to punish the Duke Lacrosse team?

What's believing rumors of a president being born in a foreign country have to do with racism? Nothing more than those who believe the US didn't land on the moon or that Ted Cruz's dad shot JFK.

Charlottesville-lots on people who aren't racist don't support removing Confederate monuments. In fact the majority of American people and a substantial minority of Black people don't support it.

Why should he condemn David Duke? He doesn't work for him. When are you going to denounce your new Senate candidate in Maryland? When are you going to denounce John Conyers? When are you going to denounce all those Democrats in Hollwyood? When are you going to denounce Kevin Spacey or George Takei? When are you going to denounce Bill Clinton? When is any Democrat going to denounce Senator Mendoza (hint-the moment a Democrat gets inaugurated as governor of NJ)? How long did it take Democrats to denounce Al Franken (until the polls told them his position was untenable and they thought it was to their advantage in dealing with Moore in Alabama)?

As for the judge, Trump claimed he would be biased because of Trump's immigration positions.

Uh, Trump was asked to condemn David Duke. He REFUSED for days. There's a difference

Yeah, he doesn't have time for nonsense. Its bs by the media.

The police officer in Ferguson should be in prison. Its clear that a white cop can kill just about any male of color with few if any consequences, because white juries let them off the hook. If you feel threatened by black males, then you shouldn't be a cop.

The guy was trying to take his gun. If you think he should be in prison, you are horribly ignorant of what happened there. You just listened to the first lies and won't let facts get in the way of your opinion.


Birtherism was 100% racism. Its whole premise is that Obama can't be a legitimate president because he's black. That's all there was to it. Nothing more. Nothing less. BTW, John McCain was born in PANAMA. And Mitt Romney is a chain migration anchor baby to a Mexican born parent. Nobody seemed to care about that. You didn't see Trump and the other birthers working themselves up into a frenzy about that. Nah, its just the black guy who gets his "Americaness" challenged.

Panama was American territory then. Indonesia or Kenya or wherever the birthers thought Obama was born was not. Obama could have settled it all by being open and showing his certificate. He didn't because he thought he could take political advantage of it. He was asked for a long time and didn't respond, for a lot longer than Trump ignored the request to condemn David Duke. And it was a more relevant request.


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So Judge Curiel cannot rule on the Trump University scam because Trump makes racist comments about Mexicans? Using that logic, I suppose that every LGBT rights case can only go before judges that support LBGT rights. You good with that?

No Trump's opinion was that he would be biased because Trump made non-racist comments about controlling immigration. I don't agree with everything Trump says. But that was not racist. Stupid, yes, but not racist. Now that judges are biased against Trump and can't rule fairly has been proven repeatedly in the 9th district.

(01-14-2018 03:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  And you automatically believe Durbin. And believe anonymous sources that Graham told Scott he said it. And don't see the hypocrisy in deriding someone who does the opposite.

You liberals are so predictable.

Not Anonymous stories....Graham said that 'he had not heard one account in the press about what went down that was inaccurate'. And he also said that he pointed out Trump's to him in the meeting and exchanged words with him about his statements.

Sure, Lindsay Graham is in the bag for the Democrats. LOL. He votes with Trump, what 97% of the time or more?

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Besides, do you disagree with Trump's comments? Seriously, if you don't think what he said (and Trump now says four days later he didn't) was wrong, then why get upset if people attribute it to him?

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites some of you are for believing any negative thing no matter how poorly sourced while deriding others who believe a decorated war hero.

I don't care whether he said it or not, because its true. Its not like he said it in a public speech. And its got nothing to do with racism. Anybody not afflicted with TDS understood what he meant-we don't need a bunch of poor, unskilled immigrants. People who deride Trump for being racist or anti-gay (I can't keep up with what letters y'all are using these days) simply give up their credibility. There's plenty of things to criticize Trump on. Those are not among those things.

You'll find out in November that the advancement and normalization of open bigotry and racism by Trump and his supporters is the number one issue in this country. Nothing else really matters so long as there's an existential threat to our communities.

I can't help you with your TDS. You hate him so much you imagine racism and hated in everything. Its like the Jews who claim the guy with a Jewish daughter, a Jewish son-in-law, a Jewish daughter-in-law and Jewish business associates everywhere, is anti-Semitic. Its TDS.

He's just rude, a bit of a jerk, careless with his words and a New Yorker.

Maybe the problem is you are just a bigot against people with ADHD. With experience with 2 ADHD kids, I'm pretty sure Trump is ADHD. Words come out before thought sometimes.

I get it. Its kind of hard to argue that Trump is a racist to someone who apparently doesn't seem to accept that racism is a real thing. If you start from the position that whate Republicans can never be racist, then its easy to discount the multiple and repeated acts of flat out racism in his administration and by him as non-existent, I suppose.

By the way, there's plenty of POLICY that Trump has proposed or enacted that is racist. Not just words. Actions. Its all over his immigration policy.

And do ADHD people say things they don't mean, or simply blurt out things that they shouldn't say?

The left crying wolf over racism and pc garbage is exactly why Trump won. If they keep up the chicken little stuff with Russia and fake scandals, I won't be surprised when he wins again.

(01-14-2018 03:11 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:57 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:48 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:38 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:32 PM)bullet Wrote:  Wow. A list of 15 items, of which only #1 (from 45 years ago when a lot of places discriminated in housing) has the least bit to do with racism (#6 would if you weren't misrepresenting what he said).

Central Park Five?
Birtherism?
Charlottesville?
Waiting to see if people would allow him to refuse to condemn David Duke for several days?

Man you're pretty far gone if you can't see the racism in those actions.

And regarding Judge Curiel. He opined that Judge Curiel, simply because he was Mexican American, could not be a judge in his case. I don't see how you spin it as anything other than flat out racism.

How many people wanted to string up the police officer in Ferguson, because of the "Hands up, don't shoot" lie? It was a horrendous crime. Like many others, he jumped the gun on wanting the guilty punished. How many wanted to punish the Duke Lacrosse team?

What's believing rumors of a president being born in a foreign country have to do with racism? Nothing more than those who believe the US didn't land on the moon or that Ted Cruz's dad shot JFK.

Charlottesville-lots on people who aren't racist don't support removing Confederate monuments. In fact the majority of American people and a substantial minority of Black people don't support it.

Why should he condemn David Duke? He doesn't work for him. When are you going to denounce your new Senate candidate in Maryland? When are you going to denounce John Conyers? When are you going to denounce all those Democrats in Hollwyood? When are you going to denounce Kevin Spacey or George Takei? When are you going to denounce Bill Clinton? When is any Democrat going to denounce Senator Mendoza (hint-the moment a Democrat gets inaugurated as governor of NJ)? How long did it take Democrats to denounce Al Franken (until the polls told them his position was untenable and they thought it was to their advantage in dealing with Moore in Alabama)?

As for the judge, Trump claimed he would be biased because of Trump's immigration positions.

Uh, Trump was asked to condemn David Duke. He REFUSED for days. There's a difference

Yeah, he doesn't have time for nonsense. Its bs by the media.

The police officer in Ferguson should be in prison. Its clear that a white cop can kill just about any male of color with few if any consequences, because white juries let them off the hook. If you feel threatened by black males, then you shouldn't be a cop.

The guy was trying to take his gun. If you think he should be in prison, you are horribly ignorant of what happened there. You just listened to the first lies and won't let facts get in the way of your opinion.


Birtherism was 100% racism. Its whole premise is that Obama can't be a legitimate president because he's black. That's all there was to it. Nothing more. Nothing less. BTW, John McCain was born in PANAMA. And Mitt Romney is a chain migration anchor baby to a Mexican born parent. Nobody seemed to care about that. You didn't see Trump and the other birthers working themselves up into a frenzy about that. Nah, its just the black guy who gets his "Americaness" challenged.

Panama was American territory then. Indonesia or Kenya or wherever the birthers thought Obama was born was not. Obama could have settled it all by being open and showing his certificate. He didn't because he thought he could take political advantage of it. He was asked for a long time and didn't respond, for a lot longer than Trump ignored the request to condemn David Duke. And it was a more relevant request.


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So Judge Curiel cannot rule on the Trump University scam because Trump makes racist comments about Mexicans? Using that logic, I suppose that every LGBT rights case can only go before judges that support LBGT rights. You good with that?

No Trump's opinion was that he would be biased because Trump made non-racist comments about controlling immigration. I don't agree with everything Trump says. But that was not racist. Stupid, yes, but not racist. Now that judges are biased against Trump and can't rule fairly has been proven repeatedly in the 9th district.

He released his birth certificate. BTW, I don't have a long form birth certificate either. But then again, I'm white.

(01-14-2018 03:04 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:55 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:44 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:39 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 02:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Not Anonymous stories....Graham said that 'he had not heard one account in the press about what went down that was inaccurate'. And he also said that he pointed out Trump's to him in the meeting and exchanged words with him about his statements.

Sure, Lindsay Graham is in the bag for the Democrats. LOL. He votes with Trump, what 97% of the time or more?

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Besides, do you disagree with Trump's comments? Seriously, if you don't think what he said (and Trump now says four days later he didn't) was wrong, then why get upset if people attribute it to him?

I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out what hypocrites some of you are for believing any negative thing no matter how poorly sourced while deriding others who believe a decorated war hero.

I don't care whether he said it or not, because its true. Its not like he said it in a public speech. And its got nothing to do with racism. Anybody not afflicted with TDS understood what he meant-we don't need a bunch of poor, unskilled immigrants. People who deride Trump for being racist or anti-gay (I can't keep up with what letters y'all are using these days) simply give up their credibility. There's plenty of things to criticize Trump on. Those are not among those things.

You'll find out in November that the advancement and normalization of open bigotry and racism by Trump and his supporters is the number one issue in this country. Nothing else really matters so long as there's an existential threat to our communities.

Get real. The country is at full employment, and recruiters are saying if they don't get in contact with a prospect within 24 hours, they will have already taken another job. See my "The Trump Economy" thread for a reality check.

You went all in on identity politics in 2016, and got your ass handed to you. It seems like you still haven't learned any better.

You lost by 3 million votes in 2016. You just lost a friggin' Senate seat in Alabama to a candidate that is, quite frankly, pretty much a mirror image of Donald Trump. Good luck with that.

And you guys got crushed in Virginia. Went from a two thirds majority, to a 1 seat majority based upon a coin toss.

Not as well as before is a better description than crushed. Fact is that the Republicans won the majority of the seats in the Virginia House.

And Trump won by 77 electoral votes in 2016. Hillary and the Dems should listen to their own words about respecting the election process. You LOST in 2016. Get over it.

Let them continue to cry wolf about racism.

Its a losing hand that was already rejected by the voters in 2016.

Where is “locked up gays in a FEMA camp” on Tom’s list?

(01-14-2018 03:13 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  The left crying wolf over racism and pc garbage is exactly why Trump won. If they keep up the chicken little stuff with Russia and fake scandals, I won't be surprised when he wins again.

By -3,000,000 votes. Again, I suppose its hard to argue that Trump's racism is a problem to someone who doesn't think that racism is a real thing. Or to someone who thinks that open racism is 'chicken little stuff'.

And sure, lets hold another Benghazi hearing, but squelch obvious tampering with the election by the Russians using Donald Trump, Jr.

In 2006, the Dems took over. They refused to do the hearings about GW Bush's abuses. Not this time. We take over a chamber, it will be investigation, after investigation, after investigation.

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:13 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  The left crying wolf over racism and pc garbage is exactly why Trump won. If they keep up the chicken little stuff with Russia and fake scandals, I won't be surprised when he wins again.

By -3,000,000 votes. Again, I suppose its hard to argue that Trump's racism is a problem to someone who doesn't think that racism is a real thing.

And sure, lets hold another Benghazi hearing, but squelch obvious tampering with the election by the Russians using Donald Trump, Jr.

In 2006, the Dems took over. They refused to do the hearings about GW Bush's abuses. Not this time. We take over a chamber, it will be investigation, after investigation, after investigation.

Scoreboard!

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:13 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  The left crying wolf over racism and pc garbage is exactly why Trump won. If they keep up the chicken little stuff with Russia and fake scandals, I won't be surprised when he wins again.

By -3,000,000 votes. Again, I suppose its hard to argue that Trump's racism is a problem to someone who doesn't think that racism is a real thing. Or to someone who thinks that open racism is 'chicken little stuff'.

And sure, lets hold another Benghazi hearing, but squelch obvious tampering with the election by the Russians using Donald Trump, Jr.

In 2006, the Dems took over. They refused to do the hearings about GW Bush's abuses. Not this time. We take over a chamber, it will be investigation, after investigation, after investigation.

Lol

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Where is “locked up gays in a FEMA camp” on Tom’s list?

Tom probably "just returned" from one of those

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:13 PM)Jugnaut Wrote:  The left crying wolf over racism and pc garbage is exactly why Trump won. If they keep up the chicken little stuff with Russia and fake scandals, I won't be surprised when he wins again.

By -3,000,000 votes. Again, I suppose its hard to argue that Trump's racism is a problem to someone who doesn't think that racism is a real thing. Or to someone who thinks that open racism is 'chicken little stuff'.

And sure, lets hold another Benghazi hearing, but squelch obvious tampering with the election by the Russians using Donald Trump, Jr.

In 2006, the Dems took over. They refused to do the hearings about GW Bush's abuses. Not this time. We take over a chamber, it will be investigation, after investigation, after investigation.

You are living in la-la land. The man won multiple blue states and over 300 electoral votes.

You lost.

Watching you twist yourself into a pretzel of denial and rage is rather entertaining though. By all means, continue.

Durbin is a liar. Is anyone really shocked.

(01-14-2018 03:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Where is “locked up gays in a FEMA camp” on Tom’s list?

Tom probably "just returned" from one of those

His version of Club Med.

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  We take over a chamber, it will be investigation, after investigation, after investigation.

Please do. You will seal Trump's reelection before you can even find your nominee.

How funny will it be when we're at full employment, the economy and stock market are booming, the working class gets a 10% raise, and the unhinged alt-left is filing and voting on articles of impeachment?

You people are so far gone, it's not even funny.

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Where is “locked up gays in a FEMA camp” on Tom’s list?

The 'stood by and did nothing' while Putin rounded up hundreds of LGBT people and murdered them in a concentration camp in Southern Russia issue is a thing. Its just off topic. Right now, Trump's racism is in the forefront.

It will probably be next week sometime when Trump does something hateful against LGBT persons.

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BTW, the State Department did issue some mild sanctions against Putin's lackey who murdered 140 LGBT Russians in a Birkenau style deathcamp. But not Putin. And the US State Department still refuses any visas for Russians fleeing the threat of death in a concentration camp. Most of them are white. But they're not straight....so no visa for you. Enjoy the deathcamp.

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But that's for another thread. This one is about Trump's racism. Not Trump's homophobia and accommodation of violence against LGBT persons on a global scale.

(01-14-2018 03:25 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-14-2018 03:20 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Where is “locked up gays in a FEMA camp” on Tom’s list?

Tom probably "just returned" from one of those

His version of Club Med.

I bet they are decorated very well, cute colors matching drapes and such.