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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
Funny stuff..
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:24 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:18 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:15 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:10 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Sorry Charlie

http://csnbbs.com/thread-832539-post-147...id14751660

I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.

If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).

I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.

Remember this?

“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.

In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.

With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”

Of course I do.

That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.

That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.

So, you basically are proving my point.

Thanks.

Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.

It’s called changing the narrative...lol

I didn't cal having a "conference record of 8-10" a baseline, I was explaining that at worst, Memphis should win 9 OOC games and simply winning 5 of 6 from the dregs of the AAC gets Memphis to 14 wins and then winning three of ANY remaining 12 games (including five at home) would yield a 17 win season.

It didn't mean Memphis would necessarily be a good team, just that a team with a sense of a pulse can get 17 wins with that schedule.

Is that a little more negative for you?

And correct, nonetheless.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:26 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Funny stuff..

Yep.

Facts and documented posts are weird for you.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:24 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:18 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:15 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:10 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Sorry Charlie

http://csnbbs.com/thread-832539-post-147...id14751660

I'll even walk back the Bama "w" because I initially had it as an L but was caught up in the moment with their three starters missing.

If you include the Bama as a loss, I had Memphis going 10-3 in OOC and at this point in the AAC, I had Memphis at 3-3 (loss, not w vs. Temple).

I predicted Memphis to finish 9-9 in the AAC this year.

Remember this?

“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.

In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.

With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”

Of course I do.

That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.

That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.

So, you basically are proving my point.

Thanks.

Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.

It’s called changing the narrative...lol

He better be careful backtracking so hard, what with all the ice on the ground.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:32 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:24 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:18 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:15 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Remember this?

“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.

In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.

With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”

Of course I do.

That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.

That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.

So, you basically are proving my point.

Thanks.

Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.

It’s called changing the narrative...lol

He better be careful backtracking so hard, what with all the ice on the ground.

Hehe...
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
(01-17-2018 10:32 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:24 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:21 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:18 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:15 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Remember this?

“I've always said that Memphis will go 5-1 vs. the combo of USF/ECU/Tulane. I still think that is the case.

In any event, that is a quick way to get five quick conference wins without really being good or lucky.

With 12 other games (six at home) it's not inconceivable to go 3-9 and finish 8-10 in the conference and have people call it progress.”

Of course I do.

That was in response to those who claimed Memphis wouldn't win more than 4 or 5 games in conference, or finish .500 overall.

That was simply a baseline scenario in which I was trying to convince those who predicted utter failure that the schedule really wouldn't allow that regardless of the quality of the team Memphis actually had.

So, you basically are proving my point.

Thanks.

Saluki, you're a piece of work. Predicting 8-10 in conference is now a "baseline scenario". Sure thing buddy.

It’s called changing the narrative...lol

He better be careful backtracking so hard, what with all the ice on the ground.

Why don't you two quit your fluff fest and actually address my posts where I respond to you.

Question:

1) Does my link show that I had Memphis at 3-3 in the AAC at this point in time?

2) Would Memphis, at 3-3, be in 4th place in the AAC at this time?

I'll go ahead and answer:

1) Yes

2) Yes

#saloogied
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Lord.
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(01-17-2018 10:44 AM)Mimi Wrote:  Lord.

Go away.
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This is too funny....
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(01-17-2018 10:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This is too funny....

Run rabbit run...
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(01-17-2018 10:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This is too funny....

He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Maybe time for him to step away from the keyboard for a while?
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(01-17-2018 11:03 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:47 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  This is too funny....

He actually gave himself a hashtag based on his avatar name - #saloogied - and somehow doesn't see how strange that is.

Maybe time for him to step away from the keyboard for a while?

Lol... funny seeing the miserables backtrack!
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(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-15-2018 05:47 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  If we win a couple more games, you might want to change your sig. That Lawson team (that people would be stupid not to see how superior it was over this one, per the hairdo) was one game ahead of where we are now (13-5, 3-2) and went 6-8 the rest of the way.

Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.

Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

As we play better the lines change...

Before Temple we would have likely been the dog against UConn...

So yeah when you play better Vegas adjusts expectations...So to say we won everything we were supposed to win does not indicate that there has not been improvement or that the Tigers have not exceeded expectations.

Vegas expectations change day to day.
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After watching our performance against Alabama, I thought we'd be lucky to finish .500

But now?

WOO WOOOOOOOOOOO!

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I think many people thought we would have been at least .500 in the league before the year started at this point...

BUT after the season started and we performed so poorly most adjusted their expectations downward quite a bit not we are back to being a little bit above what I thought we would be at the start of the season. But with the terrible start it is a welcomed surprise.
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If we keep this up we'll make the postseason, and won't that suck?
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(01-17-2018 12:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 06:32 PM)TOGC Wrote:  Don't be shocked when this team finishes with a better final record than last year's team.

Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

As we play better the lines change...

Before Temple we would have likely been the dog against UConn...

So yeah when you play better Vegas adjusts expectations...So to say we won everything we were supposed to win does not indicate that there has not been improvement or that the Tigers has not exceeded expectations.

Vegas expectations change day to day.

I dunno, UConn has been pretty mediocre this year.

Point being, there really isn't a game that if you were shown the outcomes so far, it is shocking that Memphis won. And going into the season, you could see Memphis being favored in all of their wins (minus Temple) and dogs in the rest.

Temple on the road is the main one but they were 5-13 in the American last year and lost two of their better players, so it's not like they were some intimidating force to be reckoned with (and their 8-9 record to date reflects that).

And again, there is nothing wrong with that and it's better to be +1 on Vegas expectations than down.
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(01-17-2018 12:16 PM)Cotten Wrote:  After watching our performance against Alabama, I thought we'd be lucky to finish .500

But now?

WOO WOOOOOOOOOOO!

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(01-17-2018 03:22 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 12:30 AM)TOGC Wrote:  
(01-16-2018 11:33 PM)ddramone Wrote:  Why would that really matter? A small, slow incremental change is not going to excite a fanbase that has seen a frightening decrease in attendance. I think Tubby can coach, whether he can recruit is wholly another matter. My biggest concern is that our program is descending into the likes of Houston, DePaul, St. John's, UNLV, St. Louis.

The fanbase is ignorant. Tubby is moving the team in the right direction without resorting to shady tactics like Cal did with WWW. Everyone picked the Tigers to finish as low as 9th but here we sit in 4th place.

We are 1/3rd of the way through the conference schedule. 1 1/2 games separates 4th from 9th.

The fact remains that Memphis' best two statistical wins are vs. Northern Kentucky and vs. a Temple team that is 8-9.

So far this year, Memphis has won every game they have been favored to win and lost all but the Temple game in which they were favored to lose.

Nothing wrong with that at all--they are pretty much right where most folks with sensible expectations and a firm understanding about the strength of the OOC schedule and the quality of the AAC would have them.

As we play better the lines change...

Before Temple we would have likely been the dog against UConn...

So yeah when you play better Vegas adjusts expectations...So to say we won everything we were supposed to win does not indicate that there has not been improvement or that the Tigers has not exceeded expectations.

Vegas expectations change day to day.

I dunno, UConn has been pretty mediocre this year.

Point being, there really isn't a game that if you were shown the outcomes so far, it is shocking that Memphis won. And going into the season, you could see Memphis being favored in all of their wins (minus Temple) and dogs in the rest.

Temple on the road is the main one but they were 5-13 in the American last year and lost two of their better players, so it's not like they were some intimidating force to be reckoned with (and their 8-9 record to date reflects that).

And again, there is nothing wrong with that and it's better to be +1 on Vegas expectations than down.

Sagarin has us 1.5 point dogs before the temple game

Has us as 8.5 points dogs to Temple and prior to the UConn game had us as 4.5 dogs @ Tulsa...May be close to a pickem after UConn. Sagarin is not exact with Vegas betting lines but the changes just show that models are constantly changing and I think Vegas lines are more volatile for recent play than the other models.
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RE: Where We Stand (Updated 1/17/18)
Our conversations wreak of how poor to mediocre our BBall team is.


Next topic suggestion: Can we discuss how KenPom has under ranked us? I think we are a Top 130 team. What disrespect eh?!
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