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Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
Salmonella May Have Caused Massive Aztec Epidemic, Study Finds
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/...tudy-finds
It was one of the most devastating epidemics in human history. The 1545 outbreak, and a second wave in 1576, killed an estimated 7 million to 17 million people and contributed to the destruction of the Aztec Empire.
In the end, they found evidence of the deadly Salmonella enterica Paratyphi C bacteria.
The study does not pinpoint the source of the bacteria, which is an area of great interest for biologists and archaeologists alike. The authors note that many epidemics of the period are believed to originate with European invaders who arrived in the region in the early part of the 16th century, but the new research doesn't present biological evidence for or against that.
A previous study suggested the pathogen responsible for the epidemic originated in Mexico, and that the epidemic was exacerbated by drought. And, Bos notes, "the Europeans who were observing the symptoms didn't know what it was, and Europeans got it as well," which suggests it wasn't a disease endemic to Europe.
Funny how history changes sometimes.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
Seems politically correct to show that immigrants are not likely to introduce damaging outbreaks of disease.
Very timely discovery.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
funny how time changes what is learned and understood, eh?
if there's one thing I learned at the earliest whilst climbing the ladder to the latter......they're all full of shite and only know what they know at a specific point in time.....
the rest of it simply becomes a food plot for the fawns and does to wander upon......one can only hope there's a sage buck in the background telling them 'when'......
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
Paraptyphoid fever is still a thing in the undeveloped world. Mostly in Asia and Africa anymore. Its caused by that same bacteria they cite. There is a Salmonella Paratyphi A & B as well.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 04:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Paraptyphoid fever is still a thing in the undeveloped world. Mostly in Asia and Africa anymore. Its caused by that same bacteria they cite. There is a Salmonella Paratyphi A & B as well.
Thanks, that is news to me ignorant on the topic.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 05:06 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (01-15-2018 04:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Paraptyphoid fever is still a thing in the undeveloped world. Mostly in Asia and Africa anymore. Its caused by that same bacteria they cite. There is a Salmonella Paratyphi A & B as well.
Thanks, that is news to me ignorant on the topic.
Prior to going to school and getting all edjumacated, I was a Navy Corpsman with USMC combat engineers. I still know all kinds of stuff about bad things that happen to good (and bad) people in places off the beaten path..
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
Interesting.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 05:18 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (01-15-2018 05:06 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (01-15-2018 04:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Paraptyphoid fever is still a thing in the undeveloped world. Mostly in Asia and Africa anymore. Its caused by that same bacteria they cite. There is a Salmonella Paratyphi A & B as well.
Thanks, that is news to me ignorant on the topic.
Prior to going to school and getting all edjumacated, I was a Navy Corpsman with USMC combat engineers. I still know all kinds of stuff about bad things that happen to good (and bad) people in places off the beaten path..
DevilDoc!!!
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 05:18 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: (01-15-2018 05:06 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (01-15-2018 04:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: Paraptyphoid fever is still a thing in the undeveloped world. Mostly in Asia and Africa anymore. Its caused by that same bacteria they cite. There is a Salmonella Paratyphi A & B as well.
Thanks, that is news to me ignorant on the topic.
Prior to going to school and getting all edjumacated, I was a Navy Corpsman with USMC combat engineers. I still know all kinds of stuff about bad things that happen to good (and bad) people in places off the beaten path..
Gotcha, thanks
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
I call fabrics. It is already a fact that the white devil is the root of all evils.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
Those dang taco stands. Tsk.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 04:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote: funny how time changes what is learned and understood, eh?
if there's one thing I learned at the earliest whilst climbing the ladder to the latter......they're all full of shite and only know what they know at a specific point in time.....
the rest of it simply becomes a food plot for the fawns and does to wander upon......one can only hope there's a sage buck in the background telling them 'when'......
Well smallpox did play a big part in the decimation of Indians on the US east coast and Mississippi Valley.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 05:56 PM)shere khan Wrote: Not were Asians the first Americans, lol
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2...-siberian/
First nations people are probably Second Nations people.
Bwahahahaha. History they don't teach you.
My people originate from Mongolia. All you have to do is look at native American (both American and Mexican) and you will see very similar facial features. Eskimos share this look. It doesn't take a genius.
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 07:15 PM)bullet Wrote: (01-15-2018 04:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote: funny how time changes what is learned and understood, eh?
if there's one thing I learned at the earliest whilst climbing the ladder to the latter......they're all full of shite and only know what they know at a specific point in time.....
the rest of it simply becomes a food plot for the fawns and does to wander upon......one can only hope there's a sage buck in the background telling them 'when'......
Well smallpox did play a big part in the decimation of Indians on the US east coast and Mississippi Valley.
wasn't my point....
point was history writes itself by the day.....it's up to the individual to do the due and weigh the whey....
ref: see thread title.....that should help
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RE: Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
(01-15-2018 07:18 PM)olliebaba Wrote: (01-15-2018 05:56 PM)shere khan Wrote: Not were Asians the first Americans, lol
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn2...-siberian/
First nations people are probably Second Nations people.
Bwahahahaha. History they don't teach you.
My people originate from Mongolia. All you have to do is look at native American (both American and Mexican) and you will see very similar facial features. Eskimos share this look. It doesn't take a genius.
More than that
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2756549/
This was known before genetics.
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Maybe the Spanish/Euro diseases did NOTwipe out millions of Native Americans
But the Indians paid the white man back, introducing syphilis to the Spaniards.
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