(01-28-2018 10:23 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

You are right it was a terrible idea, the people that came up with it should have lost their jobs and never have a position in "public service" ever again.

The solution was to equalize all schools and to integrate the schools by drawing new lines that balance the races as much as possible while keeping neighborhood-ish schools, busing kids across town was a ludicrous idea. Not allowing an american citizen to attend a school based on their race or ethnicity is insane

Busing was a bad idea.

(01-28-2018 07:07 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

Latt you said "What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods"?

You're wrong on that part; I was bused my senior year of high school (1975) to Southside High. I remember counting the number of white kids one day and came up with 15. At that time Southside was in a black neighborhood and after ball practice; I would walk out of the neighborhood to HWY 51 and hitchhike home. I bet I couldn't do that now.

I will say this, Southside was a pretty good school and I had a great time.

Thanks for sharing. Where were you bused from? Was the busing due to an integration plan or was it just regular busing because it was the closest high school to where you lived?

Southside was a white high school at some point before you were there, wasn't it? Carver was the black high school in the area if I remember correctly.

(01-28-2018 10:23 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

You are right it was a terrible idea, the people that came up with it should have lost their jobs and never have a position in "public service" ever again.

The solution was to equalize all schools and to integrate the schools by drawing new lines that balance the races as much as possible while keeping neighborhood-ish schools, busing kids across town was a ludicrous idea. Not allowing an american citizen to attend a school based on their race or ethnicity is insane

Society would be much better if white people didn't fear going to school with minorities (and in Memphis' case, black people). That has been a problem for centuries.

The government was ordered to do the integration plan by court order. I guess you are trying to vilify the NAACP and other groups that sued over racist segregation policies. And you can't balance the races if the races are always living in different communities via one method or another.

(01-28-2018 11:13 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:23 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

You are right it was a terrible idea, the people that came up with it should have lost their jobs and never have a position in "public service" ever again.

The solution was to equalize all schools and to integrate the schools by drawing new lines that balance the races as much as possible while keeping neighborhood-ish schools, busing kids across town was a ludicrous idea. Not allowing an american citizen to attend a school based on their race or ethnicity is insane

Society would be much better if white people didn't fear going to school with minorities (and in Memphis' case, black people). That has been a problem for centuries.

The government was ordered to do the integration plan by court order. I guess you are trying to vilify the NAACP and other groups that sued over racist segregation policies. And you can't balance the races if the races are always living in different communities via one method or another.

The people in the NCAA that advocated busing should never have be allowed to have anything to do with education or government again after busing was proved to be so disastrous.

If drawing lines that made common sense did not fully integrate schools then it would have been wise to do the best they could and let time settle the problem. Using busing, neighborhoods were destroyed, schools were destroyed , yet schools we not fully integrated.

(01-28-2018 11:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  The people in the NCAA that advocated busing should never have be allowed to have anything to do with education or government again after busing was proved to be so disastrous.

If drawing lines that made common sense did not fully integrate schools then it would have been wise to do the best they could and let time settle the problem. Using busing, neighborhoods were destroyed, schools were destroyed , yet schools we not fully integrated.

I suspect you mean NAACP.

Ned, I think you are older than me, and maybe significantly so. I come from the generation when the busing plan was implemented, but not the busing fight.

The reason busing didn’t work is due to white people not wanting black kids bused to their schools. My issue isn’t about the effects on the white side. To me, it seems that your issue was more about anger that black kids were sent out east.

If there had been no white flight and in flux of white kids into private schools, there would have been no problems for the families in those communities. But the reasons for not wanting black students had everyday to do with why segregation/Jim Crow was law in the first place: a desire to see black people as inferior and a fear that bringing black people into an equal footing would eventually lead to “co-mingling.” Ned, I fear that your rationale as a twinge of what was racist motivation to fight busing in the first place. The fact is, segregationists didn’t want any African-Americans in their schools, moving to their neighborhoods, or going to their churches; not to mention dating their daughters.

My rationale is that the schools should have truly been made equal. But that was never going to happen. Manassas and BTW were NEVER going to be funded and managed to have the level of course offerings, extracurricular resources, and experienced/educated facility like White Station and Central.

And in cases where integration could happen without busing, like my alma mater East High School, which could be resolved by closing the nearby segregation high school, Lester, within a couple of years, white students stopped going to East.

So brother, the solution was to get rid of the superiority complex. Busing was an attempt to combat that with diversity. It didn’t work. Not because the idea was flawed; but because racism was just that strong.

(01-28-2018 06:43 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:19 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:15 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 03:26 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Fayette County, and a lot of its development, isn't THAT far from Memphis. Property taxes are cheaper and on the surface, you would think people would flock there in droves in the latest round of white flight.

While it has seen growth since 2000, it is nothing compared to what it should get. One wonders why.

schools suck, some people find it too far out.

Big time. Why the county hasn't done a better job improving schools is a mystery. With 385 so close, it is more convenient than ever to come and go.

Yes, yes, yes, it's horrible out here. Forget all the major improvements in the schools in the past few years, keep believing what you do. The county is full and can't handle any more Memphis refugees...except maybe a good Italian restaurant. We've got copperheads and coyotes and downright unfriendly people. No electricity, no running water, the streets aren't paved. It's awful.

Don't know if you are aware... Milano's (Somerville) is apparently know all up and down the East coast as one of the two places to stop and eat for Italian if traveling though the Memphis Metroplex area.

(01-29-2018 10:24 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 06:43 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:19 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:15 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 03:26 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Fayette County, and a lot of its development, isn't THAT far from Memphis. Property taxes are cheaper and on the surface, you would think people would flock there in droves in the latest round of white flight.

While it has seen growth since 2000, it is nothing compared to what it should get. One wonders why.

schools suck, some people find it too far out.

Big time. Why the county hasn't done a better job improving schools is a mystery. With 385 so close, it is more convenient than ever to come and go.

Yes, yes, yes, it's horrible out here. Forget all the major improvements in the schools in the past few years, keep believing what you do. The county is full and can't handle any more Memphis refugees...except maybe a good Italian restaurant. We've got copperheads and coyotes and downright unfriendly people. No electricity, no running water, the streets aren't paved. It's awful.

Don't know if you are aware... Milano's (Somerville) is apparently know all up and down the East coast as one of the two places to stop and eat for Italian if traveling though the Memphis Metroplex area.

It's a mile from my house but it's awful, just like everything else in Fayette. We only eat it twice a month to punish ourselves for moving out here.

(01-28-2018 11:13 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:23 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

You are right it was a terrible idea, the people that came up with it should have lost their jobs and never have a position in "public service" ever again.

The solution was to equalize all schools and to integrate the schools by drawing new lines that balance the races as much as possible while keeping neighborhood-ish schools, busing kids across town was a ludicrous idea. Not allowing an american citizen to attend a school based on their race or ethnicity is insane

Society would be much better if white people didn't fear going to school with minorities (and in Memphis' case, black people). That has been a problem for centuries.

The government was ordered to do the integration plan by court order. I guess you are trying to vilify the NAACP and other groups that sued over racist segregation policies. And you can't balance the races if the races are always living in different communities via one method or another.

Okay, I hate video's like this. They play on emotion in order to exaggerate the facts. Like the first example starting at about 1:20ish. The dude hands the little kid a lot of money and says "you can get a home loan to buy property" Little kid says "great, now I can buy property!" Dude says, "but in the red district, people didn't qualify for home loans" then the dude hands the guy $2, guy says... and this is what I'm talking about... "Awe, man, I can barely afford rent with this!"

First off, dude (federal government-backed loans) gave both players money, which is inaccurate. When guy says "Awe, man, I can barely afford rent with this!".... pay rent with WHAT? The money just given to you (as small a sum as it was) by the bank guy? That's not what you pay rent with. That's not even what you pay mortgage payments with. You pay rent and/or mortgage payments with a JOB.

I also don't appreciate the statement that a neighborhood is "insufferably white".
Would it be okay to say that a neighborhood is "insufferably black"? I doubt it.

(01-29-2018 10:50 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  Okay, I hate video's like this. They play on emotion in order to exaggerate the facts. Like the first example starting at about 1:20ish. The dude hands the little kid a lot of money and says "you can get a home loan to buy property" Little kid says "great, now I can buy property!" Dude says, "but in the red district, people didn't qualify for home loans" then the dude hands the guy $2, guy says... and this is what I'm talking about... "Awe, man, I can barely afford rent with this!"

First off, dude (federal government-backed loans) gave both players money, which is inaccurate. When guy says "Awe, man, I can barely afford rent with this!".... pay rent with WHAT? The money just given to you (as small a sum as it was) by the bank guy? That's not what you pay rent with. That's not even what you pay mortgage payments with. You pay rent and/or mortgage payments with a JOB.

I also don't appreciate the statement that a neighborhood is "insufferably white".
Would it be okay to say that a neighborhood is "insufferably black"? I doubt it.

So you get your eyes off the prize of what the video is focusing on due to self-depreciating humor; policies that led to segregated communities and discrimination. When the result is inequalities in the academic process, I’m thinking it at least explains a little why busing was an attempt to even things out.

Adam ruins everything isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, but the info in that video is solid. You didn’t mention the monopoly board when talking about the cash illustration.

(01-29-2018 10:24 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 06:43 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:19 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:15 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 03:26 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Fayette County, and a lot of its development, isn't THAT far from Memphis. Property taxes are cheaper and on the surface, you would think people would flock there in droves in the latest round of white flight.

While it has seen growth since 2000, it is nothing compared to what it should get. One wonders why.

schools suck, some people find it too far out.

Big time. Why the county hasn't done a better job improving schools is a mystery. With 385 so close, it is more convenient than ever to come and go.

Yes, yes, yes, it's horrible out here. Forget all the major improvements in the schools in the past few years, keep believing what you do. The county is full and can't handle any more Memphis refugees...except maybe a good Italian restaurant. We've got copperheads and coyotes and downright unfriendly people. No electricity, no running water, the streets aren't paved. It's awful.

Don't know if you are aware... Milano's (Somerville) is apparently know all up and down the East coast as one of the two places to stop and eat for Italian if traveling though the Memphis Metroplex area.

I love Milano's but bull****.

Milano's is perfectly fine low-end, which is all it tries to be.

Also, there is more than one Milano's.

Isn’t Milano’s a suit shop?

(01-29-2018 07:54 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 11:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  The people in the NCAA that advocated busing should never have be allowed to have anything to do with education or government again after busing was proved to be so disastrous.

If drawing lines that made common sense did not fully integrate schools then it would have been wise to do the best they could and let time settle the problem. Using busing, neighborhoods were destroyed, schools were destroyed , yet schools we not fully integrated.

I suspect you mean NAACP.

Ned, I think you are older than me, and maybe significantly so. I come from the generation when the busing plan was implemented, but not the busing fight.

The reason busing didn’t work is due to white people not wanting black kids bused to their schools. My issue isn’t about the effects on the white side. To me, it seems that your issue was more about anger that black kids were sent out east.

If there had been no white flight and in flux of white kids into private schools, there would have been no problems for the families in those communities. But the reasons for not wanting black students had everyday to do with why segregation/Jim Crow was law in the first place: a desire to see black people as inferior and a fear that bringing black people into an equal footing would eventually lead to “co-mingling.” Ned, I fear that your rationale as a twinge of what was racist motivation to fight busing in the first place. The fact is, segregationists didn’t want any African-Americans in their schools, moving to their neighborhoods, or going to their churches; not to mention dating their daughters.

My rationale is that the schools should have truly been made equal. But that was never going to happen. Manassas and BTW were NEVER going to be funded and managed to have the level of course offerings, extracurricular resources, and experienced/educated facility like White Station and Central.

And in cases where integration could happen without busing, like my alma mater East High School, which could be resolved by closing the nearby segregation high school, Lester, within a couple of years, white students stopped going to East.

So brother, the solution was to get rid of the superiority complex. Busing was an attempt to combat that with diversity. It didn’t work. Not because the idea was flawed; but because racism was just that strong.

So you think it would have worked if not for white racism? your boogie man spotting ability is keen.

I have no personal anger at busing - I went to private schools , it saddened me then and now it saddens me that the dolts that came up with it are not held is high disregard, I it bad because the same "well meaning " people keep sticking it to minority kids and keeping their cushy jobs.

BTW- you are showing your ignorance when you say that only black students were sent out of their districts -- for every black student that gave up a seat in a local school there was a white student that was assigned to be bused to that seat. The difference was that most white families had more options to choose their schools and exercised their option to not be bused 30 minutes across town.

The difference now is that many more black families have the financial ability to choose their schools.

(01-29-2018 02:23 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  Isn’t Milano’s a suit shop?

there is at least one Milano's suit shop and there are many Milano's pizza shops in strip centers and malls all around town.

(01-29-2018 03:24 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 07:54 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 11:42 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  The people in the NCAA that advocated busing should never have be allowed to have anything to do with education or government again after busing was proved to be so disastrous.

If drawing lines that made common sense did not fully integrate schools then it would have been wise to do the best they could and let time settle the problem. Using busing, neighborhoods were destroyed, schools were destroyed , yet schools we not fully integrated.

I suspect you mean NAACP.

Ned, I think you are older than me, and maybe significantly so. I come from the generation when the busing plan was implemented, but not the busing fight.

The reason busing didn’t work is due to white people not wanting black kids bused to their schools. My issue isn’t about the effects on the white side. To me, it seems that your issue was more about anger that black kids were sent out east.

If there had been no white flight and in flux of white kids into private schools, there would have been no problems for the families in those communities. But the reasons for not wanting black students had everyday to do with why segregation/Jim Crow was law in the first place: a desire to see black people as inferior and a fear that bringing black people into an equal footing would eventually lead to “co-mingling.” Ned, I fear that your rationale as a twinge of what was racist motivation to fight busing in the first place. The fact is, segregationists didn’t want any African-Americans in their schools, moving to their neighborhoods, or going to their churches; not to mention dating their daughters.

My rationale is that the schools should have truly been made equal. But that was never going to happen. Manassas and BTW were NEVER going to be funded and managed to have the level of course offerings, extracurricular resources, and experienced/educated facility like White Station and Central.

And in cases where integration could happen without busing, like my alma mater East High School, which could be resolved by closing the nearby segregation high school, Lester, within a couple of years, white students stopped going to East.

So brother, the solution was to get rid of the superiority complex. Busing was an attempt to combat that with diversity. It didn’t work. Not because the idea was flawed; but because racism was just that strong.

So you think it would have worked if not for white racism? your boogie man spotting ability is keen.

I have no personal anger at busing - I went to private schools , it saddened me then and now it saddens me that the dolts that came up with it are not held is high disregard, I it bad because the same "well meaning " people keep sticking it to minority kids and keeping their cushy jobs.

BTW- you are showing your ignorance when you say that only black students were sent out of their districts -- for every black student that gave up a seat in a local school there was a white student that was assigned to be bused to that seat. The difference was that most white families had more options to choose their schools and exercised their option to not be bused 30 minutes across town.

The difference now is that many more black families have the financial ability to choose their schools.

No white kids were bused to the elementary schools in my neighborhood when I was bused out to Raleigh.

When my aunt was bused to Frayser High from North Memphis (long before I was in school), no white kids from Frayser were bused to Manassas which was her local school.

I’m not saying it didn’t happen, but it wasn’t happening to the historic black high schools like Manassas, BTW, and Douglass (original before it closed around 1981).

(01-29-2018 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Also, there is more than one Milano's.

That's why I specified (Somerville). Hey, man... That's kinda my opinion as well, but I'm just telling you what I've been told by several people who live in the NY City area. Strangers to me, but we struck up a convo, and as you tend to do, discussed where we are from. As soon as I said "Somerville just east of Memphis" dude's face lit up. He started calling his friend over to the table as conformation after I showed incredulity. I got to thinking maybe these guys are related to Joey. But they said nope. It's Colletta's and Milano's in Memphis.

(01-28-2018 11:07 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 07:07 PM)Redbanksdog Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:47 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:17 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  so you think busing was a good idea?

Didn't read what I wrote?

(01-26-2018 11:56 AM)Latilleon Wrote:  What was wrong with the busing plan? In my personal opinion, it hurt in two ways as the solution to ending segregation. Firstly, it took black kids from their neighborhood schools which had the problem of being underfunded and didn't provide the quality education that was given in white community schools. In theory you were sending kids to better schools instead of making their schools better. By taking kids from their communities, you had the effect of taking community pride away and neighborhood participation in the educational process. If your community is seven miles from the school the community's children go to, will people from the neighborhood go to football games, carnivals, and Honor Society ceremonies? The other side of it was causing white people to leave the schools where black children were going to be bused. This is why there was "white flight."

What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods?

As the solution for ending segregation, I don't think busing was a good idea. And I was a student who benefited from busing.

Latt you said "What's wrong with the busing plan? If the objective was to get diverse student bodies, why weren't white kids bused to schools in black neighborhoods"?

You're wrong on that part; I was bused my senior year of high school (1975) to Southside High. I remember counting the number of white kids one day and came up with 15. At that time Southside was in a black neighborhood and after ball practice; I would walk out of the neighborhood to HWY 51 and hitchhike home. I bet I couldn't do that now.

I will say this, Southside was a pretty good school and I had a great time.

Thanks for sharing. Where were you bused from? Was the busing due to an integration plan or was it just regular busing because it was the closest high school to where you lived?

Southside was a white high school at some point before you were there, wasn't it? Carver was the black high school in the area if I remember correctly.

I lived just a little west of Airways & Winchester. Hillcrest was my closest high school and I think Whitehaven High would be next.

I'm not sure about when Southside was all white. Hamilton High was pretty close to Southside.

I only called you out for your remark about no white kids being Bused.

(01-29-2018 04:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Also, there is more than one Milano's.

That's why I specified (Somerville). Hey, man... That's kinda my opinion as well, but I'm just telling you what I've been told by several people who live in the NY City area. Strangers to me, but we struck up a convo, and as you tend to do, discussed where we are from. As soon as I said "Somerville just east of Memphis" dude's face lit up. He started calling his friend over to the table as conformation after I showed incredulity. I got to thinking maybe these guys are related to Joey. But they said nope. It's Colletta's and Milano's in Memphis.

Yeah I don't mean to imply that this never happened to you. I think that's legitimately neat.

Milano's in Somerville (plus the one in Oakland for a bit there, too) will always have a place in my heart, and I still eat it over the holidays when I'm out there, but it's not ~great.~

(01-29-2018 05:09 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 04:44 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 01:34 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Also, there is more than one Milano's.

That's why I specified (Somerville). Hey, man... That's kinda my opinion as well, but I'm just telling you what I've been told by several people who live in the NY City area. Strangers to me, but we struck up a convo, and as you tend to do, discussed where we are from. As soon as I said "Somerville just east of Memphis" dude's face lit up. He started calling his friend over to the table as conformation after I showed incredulity. I got to thinking maybe these guys are related to Joey. But they said nope. It's Colletta's and Milano's in Memphis.

Yeah I don't mean to imply that this never happened to you. I think that's legitimately neat.

Milano's in Somerville (plus the one in Oakland for a bit there, too) will always have a place in my heart, and I still eat it over the holidays when I'm out there, but it's not ~great.~

They are the absolute best pepperoni pizza in the area, but... sometimes I want an "all the meats" or "supreme" type pizza with mushrooms. They use... er.. uhhh... CANNED mushrooms. Talk about blasphemy!!!

But I will say, their lobster ravioli is "da bomb."

(01-29-2018 01:33 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 10:24 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 06:43 PM)TigerBill Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:19 PM)karter25 Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 10:15 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  schools suck, some people find it too far out.

Big time. Why the county hasn't done a better job improving schools is a mystery. With 385 so close, it is more convenient than ever to come and go.

Yes, yes, yes, it's horrible out here. Forget all the major improvements in the schools in the past few years, keep believing what you do. The county is full and can't handle any more Memphis refugees...except maybe a good Italian restaurant. We've got copperheads and coyotes and downright unfriendly people. No electricity, no running water, the streets aren't paved. It's awful.

Don't know if you are aware... Milano's (Somerville) is apparently know all up and down the East coast as one of the two places to stop and eat for Italian if traveling though the Memphis Metroplex area.

I love Milano's but bull****.

Milano's is perfectly fine low-end, which is all it tries to be.

Hope it's better than the 3 in the Bartlett area. Used to be good but man have they gone downhill over the last few years.