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RE: Basketball Selections
(01-22-2018 11:24 AM)ken d Wrote:  
(01-22-2018 09:30 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  
(01-20-2018 10:16 AM)leofrog Wrote:  
(01-20-2018 02:06 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-19-2018 07:25 PM)leofrog Wrote:  Providence all the way. Creighton's AD is on the committee.

And he's 1 of many voters. A team won't just make the tourney because of an AD on the committee.

1. My comment was sarcastic with all the AAC fans always saying how the deck is stacked against them.
2. He is 1 of 10, so still a bit influential.
3. If you look at past history, it does help to have representation on the committee. If the last spot did come down to Houston and Providence, who do you think the Creighton AD would vote for, and try to sway the committee to vote for?

But, my original comment was sarcastic.

I think there is some conference self-serving for sure. I used to really gnash my teeth with BYU and Holmoe. I think twice his clubs were out of the discussion only to find their way magically into the field. I mean, you can't expect a committee member to not value their home conference to some degree...but the selections are a bit curious at times.

You do understand that whenever his team is discussed, Holmoe (or any other AD) is required to leave the room? Similarly, Conference commissioners on the committee are expected to be silent during any discussion involving a team from their conference.

It should also be pointed out that, despite significant "representation" on the committee by people with ties to schools or conferences outside the P6, the power conferences are still overwhemingly the recipients of the available at-large bids.

Not true as of last year. 5 of 10 committee members were employed by a P6. That’s 50% represented by 18% - significantly disproportionate.

Did that change this year?

Also, I wouldn’t count on the AD leaving the room really changing anything given the peer pressure and social bias of committee members befriending each other throughout the process. They become like a fraternity. Though there’s probably no way to rid of that unless the committee makeup eliminates AD’s entirely.
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01-25-2018 04:50 AM
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(01-22-2018 04:39 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Yeah, the Tulsa bid was the biggest gift I've seen in a while.

Wasn’t Tulsa’s AD bff’s with the committee chair that year? I remember there was a huge political connection.
01-25-2018 04:54 AM
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(01-25-2018 04:50 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  Also, I wouldn’t count on the AD leaving the room really changing anything given the peer pressure and social bias of committee members befriending each other throughout the process. They become like a fraternity. Though there’s probably no way to rid of that unless the committee makeup eliminates AD’s entirely.

The chatter is year-long on any number of things. And, really, if this committee couldn't get the Dayton thing right, I'm questioning those other integrity pillars.

My hunch is like yours. In the case of some of BYU's "questionable" bids, there's no need for Holmoe to leave the room because the committee already miraculously has them in the field on all of their lists. If there's consensus they belong, there's no need for discussion, other than seeding (but even that's consulted with networks, not exactly befitting the mantle of integrity).
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For once, being in the SEC might actually help South Carolina in basketball.
01-25-2018 11:22 AM
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