2018 roster now available for a look-see... http://www.jmusports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

(01-31-2018 08:07 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  2018 roster now available for a look-see... http://www.jmusports.com/roster.aspx?path=baseball

Looks like a very young team.

Seems like a large roster too with 39 guys. Many have to be non-scholarship because there is a cap on how many players can be receiving any type of partial scholarship money.

(01-31-2018 02:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Seems like a large roster too with 39 guys. Many have to be non-scholarship because there is a cap on how many players can be receiving any type of partial scholarship money.

Yeah, I noticed that also. Also looked up scholarships for D1 schools.
At least 12 players are not receiving any money. 11.7 schollies can be divided among 27 players. Interesting sidenote, D2 schools give 9 schollies and NAIA schools can give 12.

(01-31-2018 04:00 PM)JMU83 Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 02:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Seems like a large roster too with 39 guys. Many have to be non-scholarship because there is a cap on how many players can be receiving any type of partial scholarship money.

Yeah, I noticed that also. Also looked up scholarships for D1 schools.
At least 12 players are not receiving any money. 11.7 schollies can be divided among 27 players. Interesting sidenote, D2 schools give 9 schollies and NAIA schools can give 12.

Baseball is an equivalency sport just like FCS football. You could have every player on the team with a partial. Totally depends on how the coach and AD want to divide up 11.7.

Only 27 of the 35 roster spots are eligible for scholarship assistance. Each player on scholarship must receive at least 25 percent.

(01-31-2018 05:09 PM)Oldduke Wrote:  Only 27 of the 35 roster spots are eligible for scholarship assistance. Each player on scholarship must receive at least 25 percent.

I figured there was that last bit of information but was too lazy (and at work) to dig it up. That makes it even more like FCS. People would be surprised at how many of our football players are not on a full ride.

I believe there is a limit on team size...those who can actually dress and be in the dugout. Someone else can confirm, but the number 29 comes to mind. If we’re showing well into the 30s on the roster maybe my number of 29 is way off, but there is a limit.

What I’m hoping to see is some real production pitching-wise from the kids who were injured and didn’t play last year. The HC must find some solid starters or this year is going to be a repeat of last year’s record. If JMU isn’t in the mid-30 win mark for the season I’ll be very disappointed. If JMU posts a sub .500 record again, well, JMU needs to start looking for a new HC.

(01-31-2018 04:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:00 PM)JMU83 Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 02:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Seems like a large roster too with 39 guys. Many have to be non-scholarship because there is a cap on how many players can be receiving any type of partial scholarship money.

Yeah, I noticed that also. Also looked up scholarships for D1 schools.
At least 12 players are not receiving any money. 11.7 schollies can be divided among 27 players. Interesting sidenote, D2 schools give 9 schollies and NAIA schools can give 12.

Baseball is an equivalency sport just like FCS football. You could have every player on the team with a partial. Totally depends on how the coach and AD want to divide up 11.7.

I'm wondering if some schools try to divide the 11.7 too many times and don't attract any elite players. Pitchers, catchers, and middle infielders are more likely to get a bit more of the pot.

(02-01-2018 08:51 AM)JMU83 Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:32 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 04:00 PM)JMU83 Wrote:  

(01-31-2018 02:29 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Seems like a large roster too with 39 guys. Many have to be non-scholarship because there is a cap on how many players can be receiving any type of partial scholarship money.

Yeah, I noticed that also. Also looked up scholarships for D1 schools.
At least 12 players are not receiving any money. 11.7 schollies can be divided among 27 players. Interesting sidenote, D2 schools give 9 schollies and NAIA schools can give 12.

Baseball is an equivalency sport just like FCS football. You could have every player on the team with a partial. Totally depends on how the coach and AD want to divide up 11.7.

I'm wondering if some schools try to divide the 11.7 too many times and don't attract any elite players. Pitchers, catchers, and middle infielders are more likely to get a bit more of the pot.

I'm sure some do. Though, I would guess most all pitchers who are worth a grain of salt get full rides, the rest to be divided up until you prove to be a stud hitter.

(02-01-2018 07:28 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I believe there is a limit on team size...those who can actually dress and be in the dugout. Someone else can confirm, but the number 29 comes to mind. If we’re showing well into the 30s on the roster maybe my number of 29 is way off, but there is a limit.

What I’m hoping to see is some real production pitching-wise from the kids who were injured and didn’t play last year. The HC must find some solid starters or this year is going to be a repeat of last year’s record. If JMU isn’t in the mid-30 win mark for the season I’ll be very disappointed. If JMU posts a sub .500 record again, well, JMU needs to start looking for a new HC.

Agree, I am cautiously expecting 35-40 wins on the season. But it is a must to wins 30+ this year. There seems to a lot of good young arms and seems from what I read we have a great group of freshmen. The key is to have 3 solid starting pitchers that can log innings on the weekends and get into the 6th inning.

It is rare...and I mean VERY rare...that any college baseball player is on a full ride.

Here's a good article that dives deep into the balancing act programs and head coaches must undertake regarding distributing 11.7 scholarships across 25+ guys... http://www.omaha.com/sports/with-scholar...37fd1.html

It also delves into how discussion of how much scholarship money you have is kind of a taboo topic in dugouts.

My alma mater, Georgia Tech, has a strong baseball history with lots of guys who have made it to the bigs - and made it big at the bigs. To name a few...Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Varitek, Matt Wieters, Kevin Brown (who was a walk-on), and many more. The only one to ever get a full ride was Mark Teixeira. I guess he was worth it. He won National POTY. But, it puts a head coach in a helluva bind having to figure out how he's going to distribute 10.7 scholarships across the rest of what he has available.

FCS is the same way.

63 scholarships. but they can be divided up. I'm sure we have many guys on the roster on partial scholarships.

FBS does not allow that. Must be full ride.

Just passing along...

-Opening series at High Point so far only listed as Live Stats at the HPU site.

-Feb. 20, Tue, 3pm, road game at Liberty will be streamed live via ESPN-3.

-Games at NC State confirmed will be streamed live via ACC Network Extra.

-Though not confirmed, we can expect both games at Tennessee to be streamed live via SEC Network Plus.

-Though not confirmed, we can expect the road game at Virginia to be streamed live via ACC Network Extra.

-Also, MadiZone will be streaming some games live throughout the season... https://portal.stretchinternet.com/jmu/

(02-01-2018 09:54 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  It is rare...and I mean VERY rare...that any college baseball player is on a full ride.

Here's a good article that dives deep into the balancing act programs and head coaches must undertake regarding distributing 11.7 scholarships across 25+ guys... http://www.omaha.com/sports/with-scholar...37fd1.html

It also delves into how discussion of how much scholarship money you have is kind of a taboo topic in dugouts.

My alma mater, Georgia Tech, has a strong baseball history with lots of guys who have made it to the bigs - and made it big at the bigs. To name a few...Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Varitek, Matt Wieters, Kevin Brown (who was a walk-on), and many more. The only one to ever get a full ride was Mark Teixeira. I guess he was worth it. He won National POTY. But, it puts a head coach in a helluva bind having to figure out how he's going to distribute 10.7 scholarships across the rest of what he has available.

The article is pretty cool. It doesn't even mention the money parents are paying for travel ball. Also, bats aren't cheap either.

Dukes picked to finish 7th in conference.

1. UNCW (6 first-place votes)
2. Delaware (3 first-place votes)
3. College of Charleston
4. Northeastern
5. Elon
William & Mary
7. James Madison
8. Hofstra
9. Towson

(02-01-2018 01:36 PM)#YEEHAWDUKES Wrote:  Dukes picked to finish 7th in conference.

1. UNCW (6 first-place votes)
2. Delaware (3 first-place votes)
3. College of Charleston
4. Northeastern
5. Elon
William & Mary
7. James Madison
8. Hofstra
9. Towson

If we were to finish 7th, that would be a disappointment and I would hope heads would roll.

(02-01-2018 02:27 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  If we were to finish 7th, that would be a disappointment and I would hope heads would roll.

Agree.

(02-01-2018 09:54 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  It is rare...and I mean VERY rare...that any college baseball player is on a full ride.

Here's a good article that dives deep into the balancing act programs and head coaches must undertake regarding distributing 11.7 scholarships across 25+ guys... http://www.omaha.com/sports/with-scholar...37fd1.html

It also delves into how discussion of how much scholarship money you have is kind of a taboo topic in dugouts.

My alma mater, Georgia Tech, has a strong baseball history with lots of guys who have made it to the bigs - and made it big at the bigs. To name a few...Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Varitek, Matt Wieters, Kevin Brown (who was a walk-on), and many more. The only one to ever get a full ride was Mark Teixeira. I guess he was worth it. He won National POTY. But, it puts a head coach in a helluva bind having to figure out how he's going to distribute 10.7 scholarships across the rest of what he has available.

Work with a guy who's son is being recruited by JMU, VA Tech and others. He's a junior so he's got some time but has one offer in hand by Longwood at an odd 47%.

That was a very insightful article. I had long thought the schollie #s were ridiculously low but didn't realize they were that low. Title IX certainly hampers things too, in terms of changing the numbers. But as the article suggests, the allowing of COA will further separate the haves from the have nots, even if the number of scholarships stay the same.

On a related note, I had heard a story when I was in school- no idea if it was actually true. My freshman year, when JMU made the College World Series, it was said we made the CWS even though we awarded only half of the allowable scholarship total. Again, don't know if was true, but it was a circulated story and made our success seem that much more special.