(01-28-2018 05:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:37 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 07:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:09 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 07:55 AM)XLance Wrote:  UVa to the SEC?

Makes as much sense as South Carolina to the ACC.

Not really. South Carolina and the ACC have a shared culture and history.
Heck we even still share the state of South Carolina.
I'm not sure the ACC would take 'lil carolina back.

This playing hard to get thing only works when both sides want each other.

There are some schools that can hold a grudge.

That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

(01-28-2018 08:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:37 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 07:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-23-2018 09:09 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Makes as much sense as South Carolina to the ACC.

Not really. South Carolina and the ACC have a shared culture and history.
Heck we even still share the state of South Carolina.
I'm not sure the ACC would take 'lil carolina back.

This playing hard to get thing only works when both sides want each other.

There are some schools that can hold a grudge.

That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

Besides, people hold grudges, schools don't. Schools look at profit and if their leadership holds grudges they should be fired.

(01-28-2018 09:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:37 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 07:36 AM)XLance Wrote:  Not really. South Carolina and the ACC have a shared culture and history.
Heck we even still share the state of South Carolina.
I'm not sure the ACC would take 'lil carolina back.

This playing hard to get thing only works when both sides want each other.

There are some schools that can hold a grudge.

That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

Besides, people hold grudges, schools don't. Schools look at profit and if their leadership holds grudges they should be fired.

Profits are double digit returns on $7 Billion endowments.
Some schools choose to invest their monies in areas other than athletics.
Is it smart to fire the leadership that accumulated most of that money? Oh! Well, to each his own.

(01-29-2018 07:23 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 09:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 04:37 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  This playing hard to get thing only works when both sides want each other.

There are some schools that can hold a grudge.

That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

Besides, people hold grudges, schools don't. Schools look at profit and if their leadership holds grudges they should be fired.

Profits are double digit returns on $7 Billion endowments.
Some schools choose to invest their monies in areas other than athletics.
Is it smart to fire the leadership that accumulated most of that money? Oh! Well, to each his own.

UVA has an endowment of over $8 billion.

UNC has an endowment at about $3.9 billion.

Notable numbers, but if any of your current leadership produced those figures in a short period of time then they're magicians on par with the schemers at the Federal Reserve. Intelligence doesn't really enter into the equation. And if they were all that smart, they wouldn't be working in academia in the first place.

So, yeah, if they're dumb enough to hold grudges then fire them. Someone will take their place.

Of course, it's all a moot point because there is no grudge. If the ACC leaders wanted South Carolina back, and they probably do, then that's also a moot point because USC found a better home a long time ago.

(01-29-2018 12:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 07:23 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 09:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 05:16 PM)XLance Wrote:  There are some schools that can hold a grudge.

That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

Besides, people hold grudges, schools don't. Schools look at profit and if their leadership holds grudges they should be fired.

Profits are double digit returns on $7 Billion endowments.
Some schools choose to invest their monies in areas other than athletics.
Is it smart to fire the leadership that accumulated most of that money? Oh! Well, to each his own.

UVA has an endowment of over $8 billion.

UNC has an endowment at about $3.9 billion.

Notable numbers, but if any of your current leadership produced those figures in a short period of time then they're magicians on par with the schemers at the Federal Reserve. Intelligence doesn't really enter into the equation. And if they were all that smart, they wouldn't be working in academia in the first place.

So, yeah, if they're dumb enough to hold grudges then fire them. Someone will take their place.

Of course, it's all a moot point because there is no grudge. If the ACC leaders wanted South Carolina back, and they probably do, then that's also a moot point because USC found a better home a long time ago.

Well, it must be magic!
$3.25 B goal reached one year ahead of schedule.
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/201...f-schedule

Let's see how my boys in bashful blue can do 8 miles down the road from the evil empire.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/e...83606.html

(01-29-2018 01:02 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 12:24 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  

(01-29-2018 07:23 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 09:05 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(01-28-2018 08:54 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  That might matter if South Carolina was interested, but since they aren't...

Besides, people hold grudges, schools don't. Schools look at profit and if their leadership holds grudges they should be fired.

Profits are double digit returns on $7 Billion endowments.
Some schools choose to invest their monies in areas other than athletics.
Is it smart to fire the leadership that accumulated most of that money? Oh! Well, to each his own.

UVA has an endowment of over $8 billion.

UNC has an endowment at about $3.9 billion.

Notable numbers, but if any of your current leadership produced those figures in a short period of time then they're magicians on par with the schemers at the Federal Reserve. Intelligence doesn't really enter into the equation. And if they were all that smart, they wouldn't be working in academia in the first place.

So, yeah, if they're dumb enough to hold grudges then fire them. Someone will take their place.

Of course, it's all a moot point because there is no grudge. If the ACC leaders wanted South Carolina back, and they probably do, then that's also a moot point because USC found a better home a long time ago.

Well, it must be magic!
$3.25 B goal reached one year ahead of schedule.
http://www.dukechronicle.com/article/201...f-schedule

Let's see how my boys in bashful blue can do 8 miles down the road from the evil empire.
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/e...83606.html

Hmm, sounds like amateur hour.

The Fed created nearly $4 trillion since 2008. I wonder how much of that trickled down to Duke.

I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

(02-02-2018 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

Probably most, if not all, of the Ivy schools + Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Cal Tech, MIT, and other elite private schools. Notre Dame is not at the top but they aren't a middling school, either.

Soapbox moment...from my experience, where you go to school effects a graduate's 1st and maybe 2nd job. After that, no one really cares. I have a job that my schools' names (neither Boise St nor Gonzaga, coincidentally) wouldn't get me through the door. A lot of kids entering college are focused on where they go so much more than what they want to study and doing their very best at that.

Names, either an alma mater or a reference, get people into the door for interviews and perhaps the jobs themselves but a career is built upon hard work. I'm tired of speaking to recent graduates who try to shove Harvard or UCLA or wherever they went down my throat like that impresses me.

(02-03-2018 04:05 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

Probably most, if not all, of the Ivy schools + Stanford, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Cal Tech, MIT, and other elite private schools. Notre Dame is not at the top but they aren't a middling school, either.

Soapbox moment...from my experience, where you go to school effects a graduate's 1st and maybe 2nd job. After that, no one really cares. I have a job that my schools' names (neither Boise St nor Gonzaga, coincidentally) wouldn't get me through the door. A lot of kids entering college are focused on where they go so much more than what they want to study and doing their very best at that.

Names, either an alma mater or a reference, get people into the door for interviews and perhaps the jobs themselves but a career is built upon hard work. I'm tired of speaking to recent graduates who try to shove Harvard or UCLA or wherever they went down my throat like that impresses me.

I'm retired, but from my experience I agree 100%. Plus these days a big name on an undergraduate degree doesn't mean anything. However a big name on the post graduate degree generally does according the school and field of study.

(02-02-2018 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

ND's endowment reached $11.8 billion in 2017.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-endo...year-2017/

(02-06-2018 11:28 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

ND's endowment reached $11.8 billion in 2017.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-endo...year-2017/

And Harvard's endowment is 36.4 billion. I intended no slight to the Irish but their's is 3 times larger. Yale's is 27.2 billion. Princeton's is 23.8 billion. Stanford's is 22.4 billion. You are ahead of Duke whose endowment is 7.9 billion.

So I think I had it about right.

(02-06-2018 12:24 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-06-2018 11:28 AM)TerryD Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:39 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(02-02-2018 03:29 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  I suspect the wealthiest alumni base in the USA belongs to Harvard. Stanford and Notre Dame are near the top, and Duke is within shouting distance. Small but rich fan bases.

Why would you leave out Yale and Princeton? And I might be wrong, but I wouldn't put Notre Dame in that grouping. They would be close, but probably not quite that elite.

ND's endowment reached $11.8 billion in 2017.

https://news.nd.edu/news/notre-dame-endo...year-2017/

And Harvard's endowment is 36.4 billion. I intended no slight to the Irish but their's is 3 times larger. Yale's is 27.2 billion. Princeton's is 23.8 billion. Stanford's is 22.4 billion. You are ahead of Duke whose endowment is 7.9 billion.

So I think I had it about right.

I wasn't arguing your post, just wanted to post the most recent number.