Spot on assessment, IMHO, especially regarding Coach Graham, who deserves MUCH better than the way his contract situation has been treated...

http://www.ricethresher.org/article/2018...grievances

(01-24-2018 08:56 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Spot on assessment, IMHO, especially regarding Coach Graham, who deserves MUCH better than the way his contract situation has been treated...

http://www.ricethresher.org/article/2018...grievances

1) Doesn’t the swim coach determine the split of the team scholarships and we choose to only have swimmers?

2) Agree the silence needs to be broken. Hopefully he knows it’s his last year by now and it just hasn’t been officially announced.

3) Agree completely.

Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

(01-24-2018 09:19 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 08:56 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Spot on assessment, IMHO, especially regarding Coach Graham, who deserves MUCH better than the way his contract situation has been treated...

http://www.ricethresher.org/article/2018...grievances

1) Doesn’t the swim coach determine the split of the team scholarships and we choose to only have swimmers?

2) Agree the silence needs to be broken. Hopefully he knows it’s his last year by now and it just hasn’t been officially announced.

3) Agree completely.

Diving needs a diving coach and facilities.

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

If this were Graham's last season, you would think they would want to announce that ASAP to help boost season ticket sales as we close in on the start of the season.

(01-24-2018 09:38 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

A one year extension is not stupid. It's better for next year's incoming recruiting than going a year without knowing who the head coach will be. It also gives another year to determine whether Janish or Pope are viable candidates for the head coaching job. John Pope has really stepped up his recruiting game this past year.

(01-24-2018 10:54 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:38 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

A one year extension is not stupid. It's better for next year's incoming recruiting than going a year without knowing who the head coach will be. It also gives another year to determine whether Janish or Pope are viable candidates for the head coaching job. John Pope has really stepped up his recruiting game this past year.

How is it better for recruiting? Our recruiting has clearly fallen off in the last couple years (or he isn’t coaching as well I’ll let you pick your poison). You think HS seniors are thinking “oh great I get to play my freshman year under Graham and then after that I’ll take my chances!”. Now days you recruit freshmen sophomores and juniors. Better to move on and stop the slide in our program (hopefully). I hope we win it all and give him a proper send off. Everyone has to retire at some point...

(01-24-2018 10:54 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:38 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

A one year extension is not stupid. It's better for next year's incoming recruiting than going a year without knowing who the head coach will be. It also gives another year to determine whether Janish or Pope are viable candidates for the head coaching job. John Pope has really stepped up his recruiting game this past year.

Given what I've witnessed first hand with Coach Pope, I have changed my thinking about whether or not he'd be a viable candidate for the job. Prior to last summer, I would have thought "probably not" simply because he hadn't spent a lot of time in the collegiate game and Rice will be a highly sought after job. However, when he took the reins in recruiting, he immediately began really grinding at various showcases, tournaments, etc...and it paid off with an uptick in commitments. He's clearly a "worker" and you don't build a program in 5A (now 6A) from the ground up and win state championships if you don't know what you're doing. I'm not saying he's a clear front runner but I can definitely say that I wouldn't be disappointed if he was the coach in waiting.

(01-24-2018 11:04 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 10:54 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:38 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:25 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  Neither the Thresher writer nor anyone here have any idea what Graham and the university have discussed and agreed. Pure speculation on everyone's part.

??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

A one year extension is not stupid. It's better for next year's incoming recruiting than going a year without knowing who the head coach will be. It also gives another year to determine whether Janish or Pope are viable candidates for the head coaching job. John Pope has really stepped up his recruiting game this past year.

How is it better for recruiting? Our recruiting has clearly fallen off in the last couple years (or he isn’t coaching as well I’ll let you pick your poison). You think HS seniors are thinking “oh great I get to play my freshman year under Graham and then after that I’ll take my chances!”. Now days you recruit freshmen sophomores and juniors. Better to move on and stop the slide in our program (hopefully). I hope we win it all and give him a proper send off. Everyone has to retire at some point...

Knowing you'd be playing one year under the tutelage of one of the greatest coaches in college baseball history and then taking your chances is certainly a more attractive option than not even knowing who your head coach will be your Freshman season.

(01-24-2018 11:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 11:04 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 10:54 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:38 AM)cr11owl Wrote:  

(01-24-2018 09:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  ??? Where's the speculation? He's either going to be given the one year extension he has requested (from everything I've heard) or this will be his last year. Either way, it should be announced as the uncertainty effects recruiting (and may very well be part of the reason we lost two assistant coaches). Also, as the Thresher writer points out, if this IS The OG's last year, he deserves a farewell tour.

A 1 year extension is stupid. Talk about a recruiting impact... the reason you give extensions is for the security of the future of your program. 1 year doesn’t do anything. This should be his last year period. The program has been in decline and he’s already one of the oldest coaches ever. He deserves a great farewell year then we need to confirm our commitment to baseball and hire one of the top coaches in the country.

A one year extension is not stupid. It's better for next year's incoming recruiting than going a year without knowing who the head coach will be. It also gives another year to determine whether Janish or Pope are viable candidates for the head coaching job. John Pope has really stepped up his recruiting game this past year.

How is it better for recruiting? Our recruiting has clearly fallen off in the last couple years (or he isn’t coaching as well I’ll let you pick your poison). You think HS seniors are thinking “oh great I get to play my freshman year under Graham and then after that I’ll take my chances!”. Now days you recruit freshmen sophomores and juniors. Better to move on and stop the slide in our program (hopefully). I hope we win it all and give him a proper send off. Everyone has to retire at some point...

Knowing you'd be playing one year under the tutelage of one of the greatest coaches in college baseball history and then taking your chances is certainly a more attractive option than not even knowing who your head coach will be your Freshman season.

It just means the class under them will be in that situation then. Unless you’re suggesting we give a 1 year extension and name someone on our staff the next HC right now. That’s a completely different scenario.

I wonder if 33-31 is a factor in Graham’s situation.

Add diving. Fire everybody else except Langley. And Graham. Fire the water boy, the janitor, everybody.

Way too positive here. If we want to be Texas, we need to act like them.

(01-24-2018 11:35 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I wonder if 33-31 is a factor in Graham’s situation.

Add diving. Fire everybody else except Langley. And Graham. Fire the water boy, the janitor, everybody.

Way too positive here. If we want to be Texas, we need to act like them.

Seth Huston has done a great job year in and year out with the swim team. He was part of the big push for better facilities at the Rec.

Article was spot on. Better journalism then that crap that was on the backpage.

Andrew has been doing a fine job. Best Thresher Sports Ed. that we've had in quite some time...

The "promising" loss to Eastern Kentucky doesn't look so good now that Pomeroy has them at #293.