I'm not arguing against Clark or for Adams. Just pointing out that 15th in scoring is gonna cost him votes, no matter how good his other lines are.

Sorry, I woke up hella triggered today. I love Gary Clark though.

Clark isn't going to win because efficiency doesn't matter when the half ass votes are put in.

This doesn't change the fact that Clark is clearly the best player in the league when looking at advanced metrics.

(01-25-2018 09:26 AM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  Clark isn't going to win because efficiency doesn't matter when the half ass votes are put in.

This doesn't change the fact that Clark is clearly the best player in the league when looking at advanced metrics.

Clark is definitely the most complete, well-rounded player.

Billy, where have you been? I was looking forward to your Low/Mid-Major Basketball Poll.

(01-25-2018 09:30 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 09:26 AM)Billy Bob Bearcat Wrote:  Clark isn't going to win because efficiency doesn't matter when the half ass votes are put in.

This doesn't change the fact that Clark is clearly the best player in the league when looking at advanced metrics.

Clark is definitely the most complete, well-rounded player.

Billy, where have you been? I was looking forward to your Low/Mid-Major Basketball Poll.

Life caught up to me a bit. But this poll for Low/Mid-Major Basketball could be a possibility. I will see if I can fit in some research!

(01-25-2018 09:07 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 08:50 AM)JFlight21 Wrote:  Wait, so Gary Clark should be penalized because Kelvin Sampson and Jankovich can't put better players around Gray and Milton? Clark is the best player in this league and I'm not sure it's particularly close.

His ranks in the league:

PER: #1 (31.4, 2nd is 27.6)
Offensive Rating: #1 (135.9, 2nd is 134.7)
Defensive Rating: #1 (76.6, 2nd is 83.6)
Win Shares: #1 (4.5, 2nd is 4.2)
Win Shares Per 40: #1 (.333, 2nd is .243)
Box Score +/-: #1 (15.9, 2nd is 11.6)

He has been dominant this entire season and taken his game to another level during conference play. If he maintains this level of play, he should be the runaway winner.

+1. There's more to it than just scoring. When you look at the points, the rebounds, the assists, the blocked shots and the steals.... Gary has measurable that not to many in the country can match... and this is on a team with Jacob Evans, Kyle Washington and Jarron Cumberland putting up impressive numbers themselves.

Coming soon to an arena near you. Sit back and watch the big man's all-around game dazzle and inspire you.

^ Pics of Clark dunking on Norfolk State and picking up a personal foul?

1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

Next up you’ll be hearing Gary Clark 1st Team AA discussions....

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

they say that about everyone in the aac...even melvin frazier at tulane

(01-25-2018 11:50 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

they say that about everyone in the aac...even melvin frazier at tulane

What? The discuss that Frazier has 1200 points and 1000 rebounds and is listed with Oscar?

(01-25-2018 11:53 AM)payday Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 11:50 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

they say that about everyone in the aac...even melvin frazier at tulane

What? The discuss that Frazier has 1200 points and 1000 rebounds and is listed with Oscar?

lmao you knwo what i meant..

that they call him aac player of the year...every single game with a top team they call the star aac poy..when rob beat wsu...when shake beat wsu

I haven’t heard it. But even if they did, it’s hard to get past Clark’s accomplishments. Those are the type of details the influence voters.

The question in the title is who is YOUR mid-season AAC POY. I am aware Clark will probably not win because he doesn't have sexy scoring stats, but that doesn't change the fact he would get my vote.

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

Not after he breaks his leg so that WSU doesn't have to play Cincy at full strength.

(01-25-2018 12:11 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

Not after he breaks his leg so that WSU doesn't have to play Cincy at full strength.

C0|d is Tonya Harding?

(01-25-2018 12:13 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 12:11 PM)Wheatshock Wrote:  

(01-25-2018 11:38 AM)payday Wrote:  1200 career points and 1000 career rebounds. Listed in the rarified air of Cincy HOFrs Oscar and Twyman. CBS literally called him the AAC POY after the game last night. It’s all his...

Not after he breaks his leg so that WSU doesn't have to play Cincy at full strength.

C0|d is Tonya Harding?