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RE: LaSalle rumor
LaSalle can leave the A-10, but I don't see how it would save much money. Unless they're dropping down to D3. The public schools in the A-10 have some pretty big budgets and that could cause some stress at a small private school with a small endowment.
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(01-27-2018 07:09 PM)MKPitt Wrote:  
(01-27-2018 05:59 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(01-27-2018 05:47 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(01-27-2018 03:28 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  If this happens and LaSalle ends up somewhere else does that open up a slot in the A10 for Old Dominion?

Normally I wouldn't think a university which has all of its sports in a G5 conference would move out of a G5 and put its sports into a non-FB conference. It has to be a special case.

BYU to the WCC so BYU can go independent and sell its football TV rights.
UConn to the BE considered because of MSG and rivalries.

With VCU, GMU and Richmond all in the A10 I could see where ODU would consider a move there, especially with the next CUSA school 6 hours away and the lack of national TV deal with CUSA.

Being an FB Indy in the east is becoming more viable with Army, UMass and Liberty all independent.

There are people on the ODU board that would jump out of their skin to throw themselves at a deal like that, and it's understandable. But ODU approached the A-10 when it appeared that the CAA was about to destabilize a few years ago and were told thanks but not thanks. I swear on a stack of AP Style books that this story was published, but the original piece about VCU and George Mason being A-10 targets noted that ODU wasn't a consideration out of fear that they'd elevate their football to FBS and become a flight risk (oddly enough, if the story about the A-10 turning ODU down is true, they ended up being part of the impetus for a move up themselves).

But even if the A-10 did an about-face, an FBS indy schedule isn't easy to build by any stretch, even taking into account the presence of Eastern indy programs. The CUSA, warts and all, is still more stable than football independence as of now and I think that ultimately informs ODU's decision making.
Should not ODU want the American now? The A-10 is not exactly an upcame move even if VCU and George Mason have done it?

The A-10 is leaps and bounds ahead of C-USA in basketball. ODU may choose to stay in C-USA if they ever were invited to the A-10 but that’s solely because of football. For other sports, it would be a no-brainer move for them.
My point seems to have been missed. ODU should vastly prefer the AAC over the A-10, as it gives better competition for its both its major sports. The A-10 should be totally off ODU's radar.
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RE: LaSalle rumor
I always tought conf's should fudge thier sch for ecomonics reason.
is it really neccesary for La Salle to play at St Lious every other yr
01-28-2018 03:46 AM
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Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle and St Bonaquitter should all go to a less competitive conference.
01-28-2018 09:11 AM
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Why? If they ever have good seasons, they have an outside shot at an at-large bid. It'd be a lot harder in the MAAC, CAA or NEC.
01-28-2018 10:31 AM
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With nothing to really back up the op’s claim, I don’t think LaSalle is going anywhere. Their coach, however, is definitely on the hot seat.
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La Salle is in serious financial jeopardy. Prior to the current academic year enrollment has been in steady decline and competition for students is gettting more challenging as high school enrollment in La Salle’s primary recruitment geography is stagnant (public schools) to declining (Catholic schools). They’re selling off art and closing their museum to raise money. However, I know for a fact that La Salle is not contemplating dropping to D3. That option was the result of the consultants making sure all options are reviewed.

La Salle is really caught in a bind. They don’t have the money to have A10 level facilities or coaching salaries which means that they are generally not competitive. That’s especially true in men’s basketball where they’ve had one NCCA bid in 22 years in the A10. Moving back to the MAAC would save them some money and they’d be more competitive. However, it would hinder their ability to increase the number of students enrolling from Mid-Atlantic states which the administration sees as crucial to the university’s survival.

I think sticking it out in the A10 is the most likely outcome for now, but this is an issue that isn’t going to go away for La Salle absent tens of millions of dollars in donations that are extremely unlikely to materialize in the near future.
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(01-28-2018 09:11 AM)zibby Wrote:  Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle and St Bonaquitter should all go to a less competitive conference.

And you've kind of hit on the whole issue in the A-10. I'd leave the Bonnies out of it though.

Duquesne hasn't been to the dance since 1977, even though they have played in a conference with multiple bids forever. Fordham has never gone to the NCAA's as an A-10 member. LaSalle did go once (and made the sweet 16). The Bonnies....the Bonnies..are actually more competitive.

I really wish that we could have switched Valpo for Duquesne, dropped Fordham for Siena or Hofstra etc. But that's not how conferences work. You can't just break conferences apart and put them back together again the way you'd like to.
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I really think you'll see Division I schools close/merge as often as you see them drop down on purpose.
We've seen Idaho drop down from FBS to FCS, we almost saw UAB drop from FBS to who-knows-what (Atlantic Sun? D-3? No sports?). EVery other move was up or lateral (or the school thought it was), except maybe UMKC but who knows what the logic really was there.
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RE: LaSalle rumor
(01-28-2018 02:11 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(01-28-2018 09:11 AM)zibby Wrote:  Duquesne, Fordham, La Salle and St Bonaquitter should all go to a less competitive conference.

And you've kind of hit on the whole issue in the A-10. I'd leave the Bonnies out of it though.

Duquesne hasn't been to the dance since 1977, even though they have played in a conference with multiple bids forever. Fordham has never gone to the NCAA's as an A-10 member. LaSalle did go once (and made the sweet 16). The Bonnies....the Bonnies..are actually more competitive.

I really wish that we could have switched Valpo for Duquesne, dropped Fordham for Siena or Hofstra etc. But that's not how conferences work. You can't just break conferences apart and put them back together again the way you'd like to.

I don't see any problem with conferences setting criteria for membership. That if you don't meet x, y and z criteria your membership is under review.
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