(02-01-2018 03:55 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

Looks like he touched him to Me

is there a a reason the quality is so bad.. you cant see anything, i know his pants touch evens (which isnt a foul)...this doesnt show body contact and you cant tell becuase the quality is bad..

thats from your video..

i already rewatched it HD slom mo... faban jump in from of him. evens trying to smart play tries to jump into fabian to draw a foul... fabian completely jumps out of the way... but the foul was still called despite no contact..and your thigh theory is questionable since he legs show zero signs of being touched and has straight forward motion (if it was hit his legs would have been pushed back)..

(02-01-2018 12:35 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 10:12 AM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 05:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 01:54 AM)Doglando Wrote:  Well we do still have usf, memphis, tulsa, and tulane so there's 4 right there. judging by how badly we massacred temple i'd say we have a good shot at beating them on the road. like our chances with smu at home as well

Maybe. Opinions vary. That's why they play the games.

So let's see. You have UH at home, then Cincy on the road. Two losses.

Then Memphis on the road. Likely close, but I bet Memphis will be a slight favorite.

Then USF. Likely W.

Then SMU. Again maybe close. SMU maybe a slight favorite.

At Tulsa and at Temple. Both tossups, at best.

Then Wichita and Tulane. One L and one W.

Looks like 2 sure wins, 2 tossups, 2 slight underdogs, and 3 sure losses.

Houston at home a sure loss? we are gonna be 4 points dogs MAX. KP has 64-61.

It's my opinion. You have injuries. They don't.

We have an injury. unless you're talking about aubrey preseason. returning bj taylor is a much bigger deal than losing tacko. mcspadden also returned last night from a high ankle sprain, our best perimeter defender.

Good lord, dude. It's just my opinion. Let it go. I think you will likely win about 3 more games. You think more. Cool.

but this is my last post on this time to move on..

what allowed them to come back was the fouls.. our guys were playing scared of the fouls the entire second half.. they didnt even contest shots anymore



but like i said at the end of the game...for the league the best thing happened....since cincy getting a good seed is actually better for the league (better chance to move up)

but im not slightly daunted by anyone in the league anymore.. if we are allowed to play our game. i think there are few teams that can beat us

(02-01-2018 04:06 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 03:55 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

Looks like he touched him to Me

is there a a reason the quality is so bad.. you cant see anything, i know his pants touch evens (which isnt a foul)...this doesnt show body contact and you cant tell becuase the quality is bad..

thats from your video..

i already rewatched it HD slom mo... faban jump in from of him. evens trying to smart play tries to jump into fabian to draw a foul... fabian completely jumps out of the way... but the foul was still called despite no contact..and your thigh theory is questionable since he legs show zero signs of being touched and has straight forward motion (if it was hit his legs would have been pushed back)..

I took the synergy film (from the video source) and cropped/zoomed so it show a close up, reduced to 10% speed and uploaded to YouTube.

It’s a 1080p video that’s been cropped to filled out to 720p which is why you lose quality


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(02-01-2018 04:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  but this is my last post on this time to move one..

what allowed them to come back was the fouls.. our guys were playing scared of the fouls the entire second half.. they didnt even contest shots anymore



but like i said at the end of the game...for the league the best thing happened....since getting a good seed is actually better for the league (better chance to move up)

but im not slightly daunted by anyone in the league anymore.. if we are allowed to play our game. i think there are few teams that can beat us

This is terrible context.

Jacob was uncontested bc it came from a great cut to the lane and great pass. Any contest of that shot would be late and would have been a foul.




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(02-01-2018 04:13 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 04:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  but this is my last post on this time to move one..

what allowed them to come back was the fouls.. our guys were playing scared of the fouls the entire second half.. they didnt even contest shots anymore



but like i said at the end of the game...for the league the best thing happened....since getting a good seed is actually better for the league (better chance to move up)

but im not slightly daunted by anyone in the league anymore.. if we are allowed to play our game. i think there are few teams that can beat us

This is terrible context.

Jacob was uncontested bc it came from a great cut to the lane and great pass. Any contest of that shot would be late and would have been a foul.




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any contest? davis could have easily gotten all ball and brought it down....any contact to the body was a foul, but the ball was clearly in front of him... the way the game was called it would have been a foul even if it was a clean block..but in any other game he goes up with him and makes him earn it, and makes him think about going up for the rest of the game.. we are a physical team .and this is a small sample of what happened the all second..this is the only close up i could find

How many times is pesik going to say “this is my last post, time to move on” and still post?

(02-01-2018 04:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 12:35 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 10:12 AM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 05:16 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Maybe. Opinions vary. That's why they play the games.

So let's see. You have UH at home, then Cincy on the road. Two losses.

Then Memphis on the road. Likely close, but I bet Memphis will be a slight favorite.

Then USF. Likely W.

Then SMU. Again maybe close. SMU maybe a slight favorite.

At Tulsa and at Temple. Both tossups, at best.

Then Wichita and Tulane. One L and one W.

Looks like 2 sure wins, 2 tossups, 2 slight underdogs, and 3 sure losses.

Houston at home a sure loss? we are gonna be 4 points dogs MAX. KP has 64-61.

It's my opinion. You have injuries. They don't.

We have an injury. unless you're talking about aubrey preseason. returning bj taylor is a much bigger deal than losing tacko. mcspadden also returned last night from a high ankle sprain, our best perimeter defender.

Good lord, dude. It's just my opinion. Let it go. I think you will likely win about 3 more games. You think more. Cool.

You threw out an outrageous claim just figured you might have something behind it to back it. I'm new around here, still need to figure out who the sensitive ones are.

Honestly, the thread title should just be changed to Pesik's Lamentations.


T


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Any more tears in this thread and Houston's going to be under permanent drought conditions.

UC outscored Houston 65-37 after being down by 18.

Houston did not lose because of officiating.

This is amazing!

(02-01-2018 03:11 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 02:15 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 01:45 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 01:39 PM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 01:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  seeing how i coached basketball for a few years, i better hope i know the fundamentals...

You literally insisted that Houston was never in foul trouble and fouling is not an issue for them. That’s clearly not the truth.

The only real issue I saw, was jacob Evans floor slip being called a foul. And it accounted for 2 points.




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that is clearly a FACT...we have had maybe 1 player in foul trouble or foul out...we have NEVER had all 3 in foul trouble like that AT half...that is a fact...
if we didnt have the depth at 5 and didnt have 4 players to rotate..and had 1 or 2 available like most teams, both would have fouled out by halftime...

your justification is so weak....point out us being in that kind of foul trouble for any game and half...we had games were harris and zanna didnt even play a minute because we didnt need them..
houston purpsoely tried to avoid fouls all the second and was 1 foul for fouling out all 3 bigs...

when you make the video.i want to hear your justifications...and note that simply touching a player isnt a foul
i already rewatched the first 10 minutes..of the 3 fouls called in that span 2 were flat bs..one was questionable at best..

Ok, Since the video is readily available on the internet.

19:23: Foul on Brady: Puts 2 hands on Kyle as he is about to catch. Text book foul
16:44: Foul on brady: Clark has clear Positioning between the him and the basket, Brady goes over the back, clear foul
14:52: Foul On Zanna: Zanna Moves his left foot right before contact is made, Moving screen. Good call
14:29: Foul on Zanna: Foul on Zanna, Gave up his position with Zero fight, and then fouled brooks as he tries to secure the rebound. Zero box, lost postion. Foul
11:34: Foul on FWJ: FWJ failured to cover the pick and roll, a smart Evans seem him out of position and used body contact to draw a foul. A foul
6:58: Foul on FWJ: Zero boxing out from FWJ, let Tre scott steal his postion with little resistance and made contact with the left side of his body. A Foul
4:48 Foul on Zanna: Very low IQ foul, placed both hands on Kyle Washington who was setting a screen. 2 hands on an offensive player is generally a foul, don't do that, especially in a tightly called game, adjust or fail. Guard with your feet
2:46: Foul on Brady: Clear and easy call, Brady makes another low IQ play when he tries to pick and rolls but mostly just rolls into Jacob evans and never stops for the screen. He created contact. never established position. Had he slipped and avoid contact, would have been wide open for a layup. Easy Foul
1:59: Foul on CHJ: IF we were playing football and Harris's job was to protect the QB, it would be a great move, but 2 hands to the side of Gary clark is a clear cut foul, especially driving him out of the paint.


There ya go.


But thats just the first half. Working on the 2nd now.

Please include your comments and rebuttals

Quote:19:23: Foul on Brady: Puts 2 hands on Kyle as he is about to catch. Text book foul

putting both hands on player isnt a foul when there back is against you, you cant push off ,but simply having their hand touch isnt a foul....are you sure you know the fundamentals of basketball?????????????

if you are saying this is a foul you are liar or dont know anything about basketball

Washington was pushing him back, and then he jumped forward to catch the pass

Quote:16:44: Foul on brady: Clark has clear Positioning between the him and the basket, Brady goes over the back, clear foul

overback... means "over the back" when the ball is in front of you and a opposing player jumping over your back to get the rebound... the ball was landing in the middle of them both, clark literally catch the ball to his side..that should have been just a rebound

Quote:14:52: Foul On Zanna: Zanna Moves his left foot right before contact is made, Moving screen. Good call

you dont have to lie about everything, he didnt move an inch till he was hit my your player..this is a 100% legit screen..you are either aliar or dont know about basketball to claim otherwise

Quote:14:29: Foul on Zanna: Foul on Zanna, Gave up his position with Zero fight, and then fouled brooks as he tries to secure the rebound. Zero box, lost postion. Foul

your guy was the one pushing zanna out of the way...HE should have been called for the foul...do you even know basketball

Quote:11:34: Foul on FWJ: FWJ failured to cover the pick and roll, a smart Evans seem him out of position and used body contact to draw a foul. A foul

fabian NEVER touches him, there is no contact.. at first i thought there legs touched but he jump us out of the way before even the legs touch...fabian DIDNT TOUCH HIM at all

Quote:18:16: Foul on FWJ: Clear cut foul. I even think he smacked Kyle in the face with his right hand. Would have not fouled had he stayed straight up, instead he arched his arms towards the defender and fouled Kyle Washington. Easy Call.

im starting to question if you know anything about basketball... YOU CANT PUSH OFF ON A REBOUND..THE FOUL WAS ON THE CINCY PLAYER....he is pushing fabian out of position with his arms..fabian even notes it...you arent allowed to straight arm a player off a rebound



note all of these were early fouls

i think ive hit my pic limit per post...making these gif is taking a lot longer than expected.. give me some time to make the rest ...

justin no offense but you dont seem to know much about basketball..or purposelfully being manipulative

These seem like extremely biased reviews of these GIFs. Are we watching the same ones? I actually thought UC got the benefit of a few calls last night, not that it really mattered with how thoroughly UH was dominated over the latter 70% of the game, but these first ones above I don't get a couple of your explanations. I don't really get Jhub's either, but that's another matter.

The first one on Brady is clear as day. Wash was jumping straight up to catch the pass after he attempted to establish position, not forward. You don't jump 5 feet forward to catch a post entry pass. It was bad luck on Brady's part, because they were just jostling for position, but when Kyle jumped, Brady clearly moved him significantly forward because he was trying to prevent Kyle's back down. That's bad timing, but still a foul.

The screen on Zanna was obvious. A legal screen requires giving the defender a 'reasonable opportunity' to avoid the screen. There is a reason that drive by screen that Zanna set is illegal, even if he is set. It's not a moving screen, but still an illegal one.

The one on Fabian was legit too. I don't know how you can attempt to say he didn't touch him. As soon as Evans got him in the air, he was done. Evans baited him into the shooting foul, but it looked pretty clear cut.

The others I thought were pretty sketchy, and UC got a number of those. UH got quite a few as well, which of course you would never video those. UC ended up getting the benefit IMO, but for you to act like it was highway robbery is so over the top, its laughable.

Pharaoh, let this thread die.

damn 700 posts

You're wrong about screens. I can set a blind one on you, it happens all the time against man to man press pressure.

For a screen to be legal I have to establish position and become set. If I do that the defender has reasonable opportunity to react.

This is why it's so important to call out screens, it prevents knock downs for unaware defenders who are focused on their opponent.

this thread is approaching epic levels...lol

(02-01-2018 04:36 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 04:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 12:35 PM)Doglando Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 12:30 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 10:12 AM)Doglando Wrote:  Houston at home a sure loss? we are gonna be 4 points dogs MAX. KP has 64-61.

It's my opinion. You have injuries. They don't.

We have an injury. unless you're talking about aubrey preseason. returning bj taylor is a much bigger deal than losing tacko. mcspadden also returned last night from a high ankle sprain, our best perimeter defender.

Good lord, dude. It's just my opinion. Let it go. I think you will likely win about 3 more games. You think more. Cool.

You threw out an outrageous claim just figured you might have something behind it to back it. I'm new around here, still need to figure out who the sensitive ones are.

You're going to force me to keep up now, and see what happens. Otherwise, it would have been a throwaway opinion I would have forgotten by tomorrow.

P.S. Not an outrageous claim. Just one you don't agree with.

Why you UCF fans so sensitive? It's like a school badge of honor, lol.

(02-01-2018 06:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  damn 700 posts

How many football day threads have eclipsed this dandy?

I mean, UH and UC are STILL going at it here...like, clips proving or disproving fouls and everything lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

(02-01-2018 06:09 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(02-01-2018 06:07 PM)Huskypride Wrote:  damn 700 posts

How many football day threads have eclipsed this dandy?

Quite a few