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(02-08-2018 04:46 PM)Big Frog II Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”
We play Texas every year in everything. We play A&M in baseball every year in the playoffs and eliminate them each time.

TCU played Texas in football in 2007. One time from 1995 to 2012. Or, until TCU joined the Big XII (because TAMU fled). So....
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(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”

A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?
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RE: Interesting Info on Southwest Conference
(02-10-2018 10:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”

A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?

Apparently not. We we were willing to waive the Herman buy out for a football series and were told no.
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RE: Interesting Info on Southwest Conference
(02-10-2018 11:18 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 10:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”

A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?

Apparently not. We we were willing to waive the Herman buy out for a football series and were told no.

This is very common. E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU does their best to avoiding scheduling ULL, ULM, LA-Tech, none of the myriad FBS schools that are within easy driving distance.

For them, there's zero upside, only downside. Texas surely feels the same.
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RE: Interesting Info on Southwest Conference
(02-10-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:18 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 10:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”

A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?

Apparently not. We we were willing to waive the Herman buy out for a football series and were told no.

This is very common. E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU does their best to avoiding scheduling ULL, ULM, LA-Tech, none of the myriad FBS schools that are within easy driving distance.

For them, there's zero upside, only downside. Texas surely feels the same.

But Houston and TCU were former SWC members like Texas and A&M, unlike Louisiana Monroe and Louisiana Lafayette in relation to LSU. That was kind of a low blow to Houston, Quo.
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(02-10-2018 11:38 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:18 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 10:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?

Apparently not. We we were willing to waive the Herman buy out for a football series and were told no.

This is very common. E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU does their best to avoiding scheduling ULL, ULM, LA-Tech, none of the myriad FBS schools that are within easy driving distance.

For them, there's zero upside, only downside. Texas surely feels the same.

But Houston and TCU were former SWC members like Texas and A&M, unlike Louisiana Monroe and Louisiana Lafayette in relation to LSU. That was kind of a low blow to Houston, Quo.

Low blow...but true. We call it fear. They call it no upside. Basically, it’s different ways of saying the same thing—the all too real possibility of losing is driving the decision. I’ve always thought it would be a good move for the fans of teams like Texas and Aggie to play UH on a home and home (especially if the Houston games are played in NRG). Hopefully, we wouldn’t be dumb enough to say no this time around.

My guess is it only happens if state legislators get involved like they have is some other states. It would make sense for them to figure out how to use scheduling to remove some red ink from state universities.
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RE: Interesting Info on Southwest Conference
(02-10-2018 11:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 11:18 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 10:24 AM)esayem Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 07:18 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 03:06 PM)esayem Wrote:  So I looked up which teams kept playing each other after the SWC departures and I found:

Arkansas played SMU every year in the 90’s with some games at Little Rock.

Texas and Texas A&M pretty much just kept Rice on the schedule here and there.

Baylor played the others the most.

Texas Tech had a few series with the others.

I read one article where I believe it was the A&M AD who said they’d never play the Dallas schools again. What’s the deal with Texas and Texas A&M swearing off SMU and TCU? In the immortal words of T Swift “baby we got bad blood.”

A&M hasnt played Houston since the end of the SWC. I think that could be a fun game for both and I think the local Ag fans would love it. Play the Houston game in NRG. Lots of Aggies in Houston that dont have season tickets and would be up for a one time special game in air conditioned NRG. But the game doesnt happen and its entirely because the Ag's have zero interest in the concept.

Yeah, it is bizarre that Texas and A&M have avoided some of their old conference mates for so long. They'll play Rice, but none of the others unless they have to, like TCU joining the Big XII.

*Would Herman schedule Houston?

Apparently not. We we were willing to waive the Herman buy out for a football series and were told no.

This is very common. E.g., here in Louisiana, LSU does their best to avoiding scheduling ULL, ULM, LA-Tech, none of the myriad FBS schools that are within easy driving distance.

For them, there's zero upside, only downside. Texas surely feels the same.

LSU has played the three in-state schools three times each since 2000 in football and 11 times in men's basketball.

That's 20 more games than Arkansas has played against in-state in the same span.
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(02-10-2018 10:08 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  LSU has played the three in-state schools three times each since 2000 in football and 11 times in men's basketball.

That's 20 more games than Arkansas has played against in-state in the same span.

Interestingly enough, Arkansas and Arkansas State have never played one another in football.
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(02-10-2018 11:12 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(02-10-2018 10:08 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  LSU has played the three in-state schools three times each since 2000 in football and 11 times in men's basketball.

That's 20 more games than Arkansas has played against in-state in the same span.

Interestingly enough, Arkansas and Arkansas State have never played one another in football.

... and it should happen in Little Rock.
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(02-10-2018 12:41 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Low blow...but true. We call it fear. They call it no upside. Basically, it’s different ways of saying the same thing—the all too real possibility of losing is driving the decision. I’ve always thought it would be a good move for the fans of teams like Texas and Aggie to play UH on a home and home (especially if the Houston games are played in NRG). Hopefully, we wouldn’t be dumb enough to say no this time around.

My guess is it only happens if state legislators get involved like they have is some other states. It would make sense for them to figure out how to use scheduling to remove some red ink from state universities.

This is your downside of UH and Rice sharing the same city. UH gets the better conference affiliation because of your size. As long as Rice is willing to do two-for-ones and play at NRG, the others will schedule the Owls to play in front of Houston-area alumni and recruits.

We could work together . . .
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