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(02-07-2018 02:18 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:12 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Thank you for highlighting another reason for why I left the "R" party.

Fiscal conservatism is on life support. We've got a few people who claim it who are basically anarchists and a vast number who only want to cut spending on a few things to make it possible to spend a lot more on others.

Its not so much on life support as it is untenable position in a landscape where the other party is willing to use debt to buy votes. Everyone knows and agrees that the most responsible long term course of action is to eliminate the deficit and pay down the debt. But its in everyone's short term interest to take the freebies the government is handing out. Those people getting those freebies vote. You cant win telling people we are going to make the next 10 years tougher than the last 10.

Lets say there are no cameras around. An ATM is spitting $100 bills into the street. Everyone knows where it came from. Everyone knows its not their money and that it should be returned to the bank. Still, I suspect most people will pick up a few of those bills in the breeze and walk away a few hundred dollars richer--especially if everyone else is doing it. Thats why fiscal conservativism has a tough road to hoe.
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I believe every tax payers portion of the debt is about 173,000 each. Why not send everyone an invoice and take it from there.
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(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Yes, it absolutely does. Deficit hawkishness is inversely proportional to the percentage of seats controlled by the party you are looking at. Doesn't matter which one.
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Carter's and ZERO's unnecessary overspending has developed an unrecoverable monster w/o major reform being established.....

those in congress are still the stupid loons today that they were 40 fk'n yrs ago....

shite will hit the fan one day.....

us old folks will be dead and the USD won't be worth the paper....

have fun with it moving forward dippos....

what a shitpile of dumfokkkkkkkks............

at least the dipshites realized to remove the daca req't and develop such in separate bill.............
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(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.
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(02-07-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.

See post #12.
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(02-07-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.

once deflation hits.......it will only be then when their arsehole becomes smotherpuckered.....

95% of the populous doesn't have a fk'n clue.....

it's why line 1b).....
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RE: Budget blow out deal done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(02-07-2018 03:23 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.

See post #12.

Only half pay now for all the social spending. If we ever made the other half pay even a small amount spending would change. It’s easy to spend other people’s money, especially when you get a little of it yourself.
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(02-07-2018 03:37 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 03:23 PM)hoopfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.

See post #12.

Only half pay now for all the social spending. If we ever made the other half pay even a small amount spending would change. It’s easy to spend other people’s money, especially when you get a little of it yourself.

And that "half" that pays only sends in enough to cover about 60% of the actual cost of the government since we borrow 40 cents of every dollar we spend. So, that gives you an idea of how much we need to cut (or raise taxes) to break even.
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(02-07-2018 03:21 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:53 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(02-07-2018 02:42 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Big Spenders and Tax Cuttters..... just goes to show you all those Patriots that dressed up like it was Halloween were full of **** and only cared that people wouldn't get universal health care.


The budget and deficit are going to be BLOWN OUT!!
Really shows the difference between the parties...............

Actually, it showed how much the parties are the same.

Only thing I've seen change over the years is tax and spend has been replaced by borrow and spend.

In the old TV show News Radio, the station manager is trying to figure out why the budget is blown. He finally discovers that the station owner is having the news helicopter fly him home every day for lunch. To fix the problem the owner has him increase the budget for the helicopter.

People can say whatever they want. No one has been voted out of office for spending on things the voters want and poll after poll shows that the only thing a majority of Americans want cut is foreign aid and that's pocket change in the budget.

Until the voters demand spending cuts, we should begin looking at generating enough tax revenue to cover what the public demands. Until the public has to frickin pay for it, they are fine with spending. National debt is an abstraction. Doesn't matter if the country owes a million or a trillion both numbers in dollars are larger than the average citizen can really get their mind around as real.

Start insisting that the public pay, problem is solved.

The old joke used to be---We elect Democrats to give us things and we elect Republicans so we don't have to pay for them. 04-cheers
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