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Gross Total Revenue by School and Conference 2016-7
GROSS TOTAL REVENUE FOR THE P5 SCHOOLS BY CONFERENCE:

SEC

3. Alabama $174,305,613
5. Georgia $157,852,479
7. Auburn $147,413,201
8. Louisiana State $146,934,487
11. Florida $142,545,938
12. Tennessee $139,659,550
14. South Carolina $136,032,845
16. Arkansas $132,172,997
17. Texas A&M $130,442,544
22. Kentucky $122,307,014
31. Mississippi $101,857,663
43. Missouri $90,034,258
44. Mississippi State $89,696,829
57. Vanderbilt $80,335,651
Total: $1,791,591,069
Conference Average: $127,970,791


Big 10

2. Ohio State $175,885,823
4. Michigan $162,955,051
10. Penn State $144,017,062
13. Wisconsin $139,430,724
19. Iowa $126,980,417
23. Nebraska $117,743,538.
25. Minnesota $107,894,615
27. Indiana $104,819,338
30. Michigan State $103,920,895
37. Maryland $94,881,357
52. Purdue $84,841,133
54. Northwestern $84,279,755
55. Illinois $83,307,820
59. Rutgers $78,439,668
Total: $1,609,397,196
Conference Average: $114,956,943

Big 12

1. Texas $207,127,309
6. Oklahoma $155,209,855
26. Texas Christian $105,055,587
32. Kansas $101,345,197
36. Baylor $98,125,426
39. West Virginia $92,593,373
48. Oklahoma State $88,059,220
50. Kansas State $86,081,526
58. Texas Tech $79,377,076
[b]65. Iowa State $66,335,424
Total: 1,079,309,993
Conference Average: $107,930,999

PAC 12

18. Washington $128,745,183
20. Stanford $125,039,558
24. Southern California $113,174,912
29. California Los Angeles $104,106,646
33. Oregon $101,333,119
35. Arizona State $98,972,378
41. Colorado $90,640,627
45. California $89,382,397
47. Arizona $88,186,587
49. Oregon State $86,730,624
60. Utah $74,774,278
63. Washington State $71,394,584
Total: 1,172,480,893
Conference Average: $97,706,741


ACC

9. Florida State $144,692,380
21. Louisville $122,445,304
28. Clemson $104,530,880
34. Duke $100,480,206
38. Virginia $92,962,999
40. Syracuse $91,445,865
42. North Carolina $90,500,869
46. Miami $89,135,175
51. N.C. State $85,201,572
53. Pittsburgh $84,831,036
56. Virginia Tech $80,792,750
61. Boston College $74,587,091
62. Georgia Tech $71,438,008
64. Wake Forest $66,995,224
Total: $1,300,039,359
Conference Average: $92,859,954


Independent:

15. Notre Dame $132,371,404
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RE: Gross Total Revenue by School and Conference 2016-7
This is from the data reported to the federal Department of Education, right?

I know the Pac-12 numbers well enough to know that most or all are up several million from the previous year. Probably the same is true for most of the other conferences but I don't know as much about their figures. Washington is much higher than the previous year -- don't know whether that is increased donations and sales due to recent football success, or a push to raise money to pay down bonds for their stadium renovation, or both.
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(02-08-2018 02:40 AM)Wedge Wrote:  This is from the data reported to the federal Department of Education, right?

I know the Pac-12 numbers well enough to know that most or all are up several million from the previous year. Probably the same is true for most of the other conferences but I don't know as much about their figures. Washington is much higher than the previous year -- don't know whether that is increased donations and sales due to recent football success, or a push to raise money to pay down bonds for their stadium renovation, or both.

Probably all of the above. Over the previous year's report the PAC's average payout per school rose 8 million dollars and opened up a gap with the ACC whose totals rose 5 million. The Big 10's rose 6 million dollars, the Big 12's rose 5 million and the SEC's rose 6 million.

So the PAC gained 3 million on the field while the Big 12 and ACC stayed roughly the same and the SEC and Big 10 gained a million over the Big 12 and ACC.
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RE: Gross Total Revenue by School and Conference 2016-7
Do we have the G5 numbers compiled anywhere?

Looks like all the Power schools are squarely in the top 65 now which means the disparity is growing. It would be interesting though to see if the top G5s have fallen further back or are at least growing their revenue through something other than TV money.
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RE: Gross Total Revenue by School and Conference 2016-7
Looks like UConn (83M) and BYU (67M) were the only non P-5 conference schools (of course also ND) in the top 65.

SMU, Temple, SDSU, and UCF only others over $50M.

But it is hard to really know the actual financial situation behind these numbers because things like student fees collected for athletics are likely being counted as "revenue".
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(02-08-2018 11:20 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  Looks like UConn (83M) and BYU (67M) were the only non P-5 conference schools (of course also ND) in the top 65.

SMU, Temple, SDSU, and UCF only others over $50M.

But it is hard to really know the actual financial situation behind these numbers because things like student fees collected for athletics are likely being counted as "revenue".

That's right -- we know from the USA Today data, which has slightly different overall totals, that for at least some of the schools you mention, student fees and money from the university general fund makes up a third or more of their total "revenue". That money is not truly athletic department revenue. If I own a restaurant, and in order to make the books balance I have to add $500,000/year from my savings to the restaurant's sales, that $500,000 isn't revenue; it's me subsidizing the restaurant's operation with funds from outside the restaurant business.

The number that would be more informative in a table like this one is revenue without any of those university or student fee subsidies -- "real revenue".
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(02-08-2018 12:27 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 11:20 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  Looks like UConn (83M) and BYU (67M) were the only non P-5 conference schools (of course also ND) in the top 65.

SMU, Temple, SDSU, and UCF only others over $50M.

But it is hard to really know the actual financial situation behind these numbers because things like student fees collected for athletics are likely being counted as "revenue".

That's right -- we know from the USA Today data, which has slightly different overall totals, that for at least some of the schools you mention, student fees and money from the university general fund makes up a third or more of their total "revenue". That money is not truly athletic department revenue. If I own a restaurant, and in order to make the books balance I have to add $500,000/year from my savings to the restaurant's sales, that $500,000 isn't revenue; it's me subsidizing the restaurant's operation with funds from outside the restaurant business.

The number that would be more informative in a table like this one is revenue without any of those university or student fee subsidies -- "real revenue".

Maybe USA Today will put out early numbers this year, but usually their report won't come out until April. It's a news story that gains traction after March Madness. To get these totals you have to dig them out of the link one school at the time. The totals are usually derived from tax filings. So accounting plays a huge role in NET totals. Usually the compilation of the Gross revenue is more reliable for a total, but the kinds of income reported are important to know, e.g. student fees.
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(02-08-2018 01:23 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 12:27 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(02-08-2018 11:20 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote:  Looks like UConn (83M) and BYU (67M) were the only non P-5 conference schools (of course also ND) in the top 65.

SMU, Temple, SDSU, and UCF only others over $50M.

But it is hard to really know the actual financial situation behind these numbers because things like student fees collected for athletics are likely being counted as "revenue".

That's right -- we know from the USA Today data, which has slightly different overall totals, that for at least some of the schools you mention, student fees and money from the university general fund makes up a third or more of their total "revenue". That money is not truly athletic department revenue. If I own a restaurant, and in order to make the books balance I have to add $500,000/year from my savings to the restaurant's sales, that $500,000 isn't revenue; it's me subsidizing the restaurant's operation with funds from outside the restaurant business.

The number that would be more informative in a table like this one is revenue without any of those university or student fee subsidies -- "real revenue".

Maybe USA Today will put out early numbers this year, but usually their report won't come out until April. It's a news story that gains traction after March Madness. To get these totals you have to dig them out of the link one school at the time. The totals are usually derived from tax filings. So accounting plays a huge role in NET totals. Usually the compilation of the Gross revenue is more reliable for a total, but the kinds of income reported are important to know, e.g. student fees.

It gives us an idea of how healthy an athletic department is. A $60 million/year department that uses $20 million/year in student fees and other subsidies is really a department with $40 million/year in revenue and a $20 million/year shortfall that is covered by fees and subsidies, whereas a department that has $60 million/year in "real revenue" and $60 million in expenses is in much better financial health.
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