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White House lied about Porter.
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Do you even read the articles you post?
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It's a shame Trump's"best people" can't get security clearance.
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The White House lies about everything. Doesn’t surprise me at all.
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(02-13-2018 01:13 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  It's a shame Trump's"best people" can't get security clearance.

Haha. You think you can get one quicker? You make me loff you silly goose.
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(02-13-2018 01:20 PM)Tulanefan32 Wrote:  The White House lies about everything. Doesn’t surprise me at all.

I'm sorry there's nothing racial about this thread you may go.
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They were basically told by the FBI months ago that he would not be able to get a clearance. Yet trump never gave him a clearance (which he could have) and he continued to be able to handle classified top secret information.

Remember when you guys cared about that when it concerned democrats and Hillary?
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(02-13-2018 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They were basically told by the FBI months ago that he would not be able to get a clearance. Yet trump never gave him a clearance (which he could have) and he continued to be able to handle classified top secret information.

Remember when you guys cared about that when it concerned democrats and Hillary?

He had an interim clearance.

Funny how you all know nothing about clearances until Trump does something. Trump cannot award clearances, if so none of his people would be waiting on them.
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(02-13-2018 01:20 PM)Tulanefan32 Wrote:  The White House lies about everything. Doesn’t surprise me at all.

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(02-13-2018 01:20 PM)Tulanefan32 Wrote:  The White House lies about everything. Doesn’t surprise me at all.

Have they lied about honoring a ban bet?
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The Democratic Party is just totally bankrupt of ideas and talking points when they go on for a week about a person in a position nobody has ever heard of. Staff secretary?

And this would not be a factor in a private company. It was years ago and unrelated to work.

These people need psychological help. Or they need to quit being so hypocritical and purge some of their own members like Senator Carper.
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(02-13-2018 02:14 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They were basically told by the FBI months ago that he would not be able to get a clearance. Yet trump never gave him a clearance (which he could have) and he continued to be able to handle classified top secret information.

Remember when you guys cared about that when it concerned democrats and Hillary?

He had an interim clearance.

Funny how you all know nothing about clearances until Trump does something. Trump cannot award clearances, if so none of his people would be waiting on them.

Wrong. trump can allow anyone he wants to read classified information. One of the powers he has as president. Normally though, and what's normal with this **** show, they either get the FBI clearance or they send them on their way. But bottom line, the White House issues the clearances, not the FBI.

Quote:For secret and top secret clearances, the White House has its own Office of Security that makes that decision. For access to what is called Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI), that is done by one or more of the intelligence agencies, and usually it’s the CIA with the White House.

It could be the National Security Agency or the Defense Intelligence Agency depending on what access or information the person is going to be working with.

It’s not all that unusual to see interim secret or top secret clearances granted for over a year, but it is unusual to see SCI interim clearances for that long, because these are people who have access to the highest levels of classified information, including the president’s daily security brief.

Well, my understanding has always been that the White House security office is run by career staff, not by political appointees, so I would be incredibly troubled if the White House career security staff granted the clearances.

Here’s what could happen, however. The president could order or direct the Office of Security to continue granting access to whoever based on the president’s constitutional authority, in which case I’m not sure there’s anything they could do about it. As far as I know, that hasn’t happened before, and it would concern me greatly.

And again, it’s not clear that anybody could do anything about it. If Congress learned about it, it could potentially be grounds for impeachment, but that’s a political decision. Basically, this is an area governed by norms as much as anything else, and we might be facing a situation we’ve never faced before.
Trump’s White House has a major security clearance problem

******* amateur hour!
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(02-13-2018 02:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  The Democratic Party is just totally bankrupt of ideas and talking points when they go on for a week about a person in a position nobody has ever heard of. Staff secretary?

And this would not be a factor in a private company. It was years ago and unrelated to work.

These people need psychological help. Or they need to quit being so hypocritical and purge some of their own members like Senator Carper.

Perhaps you should read up on what this guy actually does. He basically handles every piece of classified information that crosses the presidents desk.

Again, this used to matter when it was the democrats and Hillary.
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Nothing but lies in this thread. Wray just admitted under oath that the investigation was ongoing up until January, with additional information on his background check being submitted as late as January.

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(02-13-2018 02:41 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:31 PM)bullet Wrote:  The Democratic Party is just totally bankrupt of ideas and talking points when they go on for a week about a person in a position nobody has ever heard of. Staff secretary?

And this would not be a factor in a private company. It was years ago and unrelated to work.

These people need psychological help. Or they need to quit being so hypocritical and purge some of their own members like Senator Carper.

Perhaps you should read up on what this guy actually does. He basically handles every piece of classified information that crosses the presidents desk.

Again, this used to matter when it was the democrats and Hillary.

Again, how is this relevant to his job? Its not a secret. It was disclosed.

As for it used to matter? Bill Clinton? John Conyers? Don't you get tired of looking ridiculous?
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(02-13-2018 02:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:14 PM)gdunn Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:07 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They were basically told by the FBI months ago that he would not be able to get a clearance. Yet trump never gave him a clearance (which he could have) and he continued to be able to handle classified top secret information.

Remember when you guys cared about that when it concerned democrats and Hillary?

He had an interim clearance.

Funny how you all know nothing about clearances until Trump does something. Trump cannot award clearances, if so none of his people would be waiting on them.

Wrong. trump can allow anyone he wants to read classified information. One of the powers he has as president. Normally though, and what's normal with this **** show, they either get the FBI clearance or they send them on their way. But bottom line, the White House issues the clearances, not the FBI.

Quote:For secret and top secret clearances, the White House has its own Office of Security that makes that decision. For access to what is called Sensitive Compartmented Information (SCI), that is done by one or more of the intelligence agencies, and usually it’s the CIA with the White House.

It could be the National Security Agency or the Defense Intelligence Agency depending on what access or information the person is going to be working with.

It’s not all that unusual to see interim secret or top secret clearances granted for over a year, but it is unusual to see SCI interim clearances for that long, because these are people who have access to the highest levels of classified information, including the president’s daily security brief.

Well, my understanding has always been that the White House security office is run by career staff, not by political appointees, so I would be incredibly troubled if the White House career security staff granted the clearances.

Here’s what could happen, however. The president could order or direct the Office of Security to continue granting access to whoever based on the president’s constitutional authority, in which case I’m not sure there’s anything they could do about it. As far as I know, that hasn’t happened before, and it would concern me greatly.

And again, it’s not clear that anybody could do anything about it. If Congress learned about it, it could potentially be grounds for impeachment, but that’s a political decision. Basically, this is an area governed by norms as much as anything else, and we might be facing a situation we’ve never faced before.
Trump’s White House has a major security clearance problem

******* amateur hour!
Reading classified materials does not equal clearances honey.
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Let me clarify. The president can declassify and let people read. He cannot grant clearances. Typically people in a presidential administration have been in DC already and the clearances take 6 weeks. Problem is most of the staff never worked politics.

And the WH agency granting clearances =/= Trump granting clearances. F'n amature hour with RWT.
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(02-13-2018 02:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Let me clarify. The president can declassify and let people read. He cannot grant clearances. Typically people in a presidential administration have been in DC already and the clearances take 6 weeks. Problem is most of the staff never worked politics.

And the WH agency granting clearances =/= Trump granting clearances. F'n amature hour with RWT.

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(02-13-2018 02:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Let me clarify. The president can declassify and let people read. He cannot grant clearances. Typically people in a presidential administration have been in DC already and the clearances take 6 weeks. Problem is most of the staff never worked politics.

And the WH agency granting clearances =/= Trump granting clearances. F'n amature hour with RWT.

You're arguing semantics. The president has the authority allow anyone he wants clearance to read classified intel. It's just normal to have them be cleared by the agencies. However, the WH itself is the one who grants the clearance.

And by trump allowing him to read the material, he has in effect cleared him. The clearance is just normally gotten...in a normal White House that is.

See Executive Order #12968
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(02-13-2018 03:09 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 02:53 PM)gdunn Wrote:  Let me clarify. The president can declassify and let people read. He cannot grant clearances. Typically people in a presidential administration have been in DC already and the clearances take 6 weeks. Problem is most of the staff never worked politics.

And the WH agency granting clearances =/= Trump granting clearances. F'n amature hour with RWT.

You're arguing semantics. The president has the authority allow anyone he wants clearance to read classified intel. It's just normal to have them be cleared by the agencies. However, the WH itself is the one who grants the clearance.

And by trump allowing him to read the material, he has in effect cleared him. The clearance is just normally gotten...in a normal White House that is.

See Executive Order #12968
Because most people have worked in politics. Do you not read or choose to be this obtuse?
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