Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)
Open TigerLinks
 

Poll: What decision do you choose?
Fire Tubby, Hire Penny
Fire Tubby, Hire someone else
Keep Tubby for the forseeable future
[Show Results]
Note: This is a public poll, other users will be able to see what you voted for.
Post Reply 
Poll: You're the AD
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
Tigx Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,419
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 541
I Root For: Sanity
Location:
Post: #61
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:37 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 02:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It's always interesting to see posters who almost never post, come out to vote in these threads. It happens all the time.

HumboldtCAtiger - last post 2008
jackgonz - no posts in the last year
JonesyTiger - last post April, 2016
mbppow - no posts since joining in 2009
MidtnTiger - last post November 2016
Phxtiger - last post April 2016
RockyMTNtiger - last post March, 2017
stevester333 - last post April 2016
T1G3R - 1 post since November
tigermane - 1 post since 2009
TigerPete - 2 posts the last 2 years, 4 posts the last 6 years
GR82BATIGER - last post since October 2016
jives55 - 3 posts since 2013
peridog - 3 posts in the last 3 1/2 years
stcojay - no posts since joining in 2009

bored?

Unbelievable. Why I have him on ignore. But sometimes he can't be avoided.
02-14-2018 11:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
salukiblue Offline
Liaison to the Dummies
*

Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
Post: #62
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:20 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-13-2018 04:32 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  I don't see the hire Tom Crean option.

Me either, glad I'm not the only one

We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.
02-14-2018 11:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
fishman6581 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,478
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 319
I Root For: The Tigers
Location: MEMPHIS
Post: #63
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:20 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Me either, glad I'm not the only one

We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

Who do you think makes the first offer?
02-14-2018 12:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
salukiblue Offline
Liaison to the Dummies
*

Posts: 31,099
Joined: Aug 2004
Reputation: 1292
I Root For: Space Mountain
Location: Tennessee
Post: #64
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 12:04 PM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

Who do you think makes the first offer?

[Image: tenor.gif?itemid=4809231]
02-14-2018 12:07 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
snowtiger Offline
Hall of Flamers
*

Posts: 33,317
Joined: Mar 2011
Reputation: 3707
I Root For: W's!!!
Location: Cascade Volcanic Arc
Post: #65
RE: Poll: You're the AD
What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace
(This post was last modified: 02-14-2018 12:16 PM by snowtiger.)
02-14-2018 12:13 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Cotten Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,176
Joined: Mar 2009
Reputation: 128
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Scottsdale
Post: #66
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 12:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace

There are no sure bets, but the greatest predictor of future success is past success.
02-14-2018 02:26 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
snowtiger Offline
Hall of Flamers
*

Posts: 33,317
Joined: Mar 2011
Reputation: 3707
I Root For: W's!!!
Location: Cascade Volcanic Arc
Post: #67
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 02:26 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 12:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace

There are no sure bets, but the greatest predictor of future success is past success.

Somewhat true, mostly true .... except in the case where many personalities are involved. Do we know any place like that?
02-14-2018 06:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Cotten Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,176
Joined: Mar 2009
Reputation: 128
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Scottsdale
Post: #68
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 06:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 02:26 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 12:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace

There are no sure bets, but the greatest predictor of future success is past success.

Somewhat true, mostly true .... except in the case where many personalities are involved. Do we know any place like that?

A clusterfudge like the Memphis AAU scene might place an even greater premium on experience. Who knows what it takes to navigate these treacherous waters? Finch could only manage it for so long, Cal pretty much swore it off completely and signed on w WWW instead, Kirk had shoeboxes filled with 100s, Pastner charmed them for a year or 2 before they figured out he couldn't coach, it's a vipers nest for sure.

And Tubby, for all the odd things he says, nailed it when he said "we've got people taking instruction from their barber on what they should be doing, but they don't want to take instruction from us."
02-14-2018 09:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
ncrdbl1 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 27,149
Joined: Nov 2005
Reputation: 475
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location: Horn Lake
Post: #69
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 12:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace

Do not forget the reason we got Orlando is because others turned us down. Most would not touch this job back then. Now if we force out Orlando it will make it even harder to attract a top quality coach. Penny may be the only option other than an assistant looking to get their first job. But many of them would shy away from the program right now.
02-15-2018 12:10 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
snowtiger Offline
Hall of Flamers
*

Posts: 33,317
Joined: Mar 2011
Reputation: 3707
I Root For: W's!!!
Location: Cascade Volcanic Arc
Post: #70
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 09:17 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 06:52 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 02:26 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 12:13 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  What makes you guys think that the coaches who did it somewhere else can do it here?

Memphis is difficult. It's got BB infrastructure and, like it or not, Memphis is a BB mecca in FB land.

At least it was.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nb...e/2356307/

Some really want to bring it back fast, instead of at a plodding pace

There are no sure bets, but the greatest predictor of future success is past success.

Somewhat true, mostly true .... except in the case where many personalities are involved. Do we know any place like that?

A clusterfudge like the Memphis AAU scene might place an even greater premium on experience. Who knows what it takes to navigate these treacherous waters? Finch could only manage it for so long, Cal pretty much swore it off completely and signed on w WWW instead, Kirk had shoeboxes filled with 100s, Pastner charmed them for a year or 2 before they figured out he couldn't coach, it's a vipers nest for sure.

And Tubby, for all the odd things he says, nailed it when he said "we've got people taking instruction from their barber on what they should be doing, but they don't want to take instruction from us."

Instruction? I don't think so.

More like... OBEDIENCE!!!! OBEDIENCE!! OBEDIENCE!

Tubby is a farce.
02-15-2018 12:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
snowtiger Offline
Hall of Flamers
*

Posts: 33,317
Joined: Mar 2011
Reputation: 3707
I Root For: W's!!!
Location: Cascade Volcanic Arc
Post: #71
RE: Poll: You're the AD
TC voted to keep Tubby.

We're golden.
02-15-2018 12:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
WColt45 Offline
Tigris Fanaticus
*

Posts: 2,873
Joined: May 2008
Reputation: 233
I Root For: West TN Normal
Location: Atoka
Post: #72
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-15-2018 12:19 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  TC voted to keep Tubby.

We're golden.

Wrong TC... this one is TigerCane instead of the TigersCane.
02-15-2018 04:51 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tiger87 Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 19,054
Joined: Jan 2012
Reputation: 1239
I Root For: Memphis
Location:
Post: #73
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:20 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  Me either, glad I'm not the only one

We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.
02-16-2018 11:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #74
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:37 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 02:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It's always interesting to see posters who almost never post, come out to vote in these threads. It happens all the time.

HumboldtCAtiger - last post 2008
jackgonz - no posts in the last year
JonesyTiger - last post April, 2016
mbppow - no posts since joining in 2009
MidtnTiger - last post November 2016
Phxtiger - last post April 2016
RockyMTNtiger - last post March, 2017
stevester333 - last post April 2016
T1G3R - 1 post since November
tigermane - 1 post since 2009
TigerPete - 2 posts the last 2 years, 4 posts the last 6 years
GR82BATIGER - last post since October 2016
jives55 - 3 posts since 2013
peridog - 3 posts in the last 3 1/2 years
stcojay - no posts since joining in 2009

bored?

It took 5 minutes.
02-16-2018 11:26 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tigx Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,419
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 541
I Root For: Sanity
Location:
Post: #75
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But Larry put in the work. 4 or 5 years at UAB as Bartow's top recruiter. Another 7 or so on Kirk's staff.

Not saying it won't work here for Penny, but if he doesn't get the top job, he shares some of the blame. He could have gone the assistant route and then the mid-tier HC job like Damon is doing. Penny chose not to to it that way, thinking he can jump right to the head spot. Could turn out to be right, time will tell.
02-16-2018 11:35 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Cotten Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,176
Joined: Mar 2009
Reputation: 128
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Scottsdale
Post: #76
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:26 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  We don't have enough money.

We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But recall Finch apprenticed at UAB and Memphis before being hired as HC. Whatever his ceiling may have been as a head coach, he put in the work to prepare for the opportunity.
02-16-2018 11:35 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Cotten Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,176
Joined: Mar 2009
Reputation: 128
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Scottsdale
Post: #77
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But Larry put in the work. 4 or 5 years at UAB as Bartow's top recruiter. Another 7 or so on Kirk's staff.

Not saying it won't work here for Penny, but if he doesn't get the top job, he shares some of the blame. He could have gone the assistant route and then the mid-tier HC job like Damon is doing. Penny chose not to to it that way, thinking he can jump right to the head spot. Could turn out to be right, time will tell.

(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:31 AM)gotigers1 Wrote:  We could get the man for half, it's not like we's have to buyout his contract from the school he's currently coaching

That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But recall Finch apprenticed at UAB and Memphis before being hired as HC. Whatever his ceiling may have been as a head coach, he put in the work to prepare for the opportunity.

should have read the rest of the thread before I replied
02-16-2018 11:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #78
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:37 AM)MEMPHIS TIGERS Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 02:55 AM)Stammers Wrote:  It's always interesting to see posters who almost never post, come out to vote in these threads. It happens all the time.

HumboldtCAtiger - last post 2008
jackgonz - no posts in the last year
JonesyTiger - last post April, 2016
mbppow - no posts since joining in 2009
MidtnTiger - last post November 2016
Phxtiger - last post April 2016
RockyMTNtiger - last post March, 2017
stevester333 - last post April 2016
T1G3R - 1 post since November
tigermane - 1 post since 2009
TigerPete - 2 posts the last 2 years, 4 posts the last 6 years
GR82BATIGER - last post since October 2016
jives55 - 3 posts since 2013
peridog - 3 posts in the last 3 1/2 years
stcojay - no posts since joining in 2009

bored?

Unbelievable. Why I have him on ignore. But sometimes he can't be avoided.

You and the other two crybabies took the time to flame me, but didn't even vote in the poll. The poll actually would be close to 100% accurate if you, TubbyBall and NAME SCREAMER would vote to keep Tubby. Here is what the poll would look like if you guys vote.

49.6% Hire Penny
37.6% Hire someone else
12.8% Keep Tubby

FEF Capacity is 18,119
8,989 = 49.6%
6,812 = 37.6%
2,319 = 12.8%

So if you 3 crybabies would get off the pot and vote, the poll will show with close to 100% accuracy, the 12.8% of our fanbase who for some bizarre reason, want Tubby back next season. 2,319 is pretty damn close to what actual attendance will be at games next year IF Tubby is still our coach.

This post took me 1 minute.
(This post was last modified: 02-16-2018 11:40 AM by Stammers.)
02-16-2018 11:37 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tigx Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,419
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 541
I Root For: Sanity
Location:
Post: #79
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-16-2018 11:37 AM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But Larry put in the work. 4 or 5 years at UAB as Bartow's top recruiter. Another 7 or so on Kirk's staff.

Not saying it won't work here for Penny, but if he doesn't get the top job, he shares some of the blame. He could have gone the assistant route and then the mid-tier HC job like Damon is doing. Penny chose not to to it that way, thinking he can jump right to the head spot. Could turn out to be right, time will tell.

(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:50 AM)fishman6581 Wrote:  That's true, but he's gonna get 2.5-3 this summer and if we buyout Tubby we couldn't pay 3. Hypothetical of course.

What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But recall Finch apprenticed at UAB and Memphis before being hired as HC. Whatever his ceiling may have been as a head coach, he put in the work to prepare for the opportunity.

should have read the rest of the thread before I replied

No problem. These threads get pretty long sometimes.
02-16-2018 11:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Shooters Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,211
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: -46
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
Post: #80
RE: Poll: You're the AD
(02-16-2018 11:49 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:37 AM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But Larry put in the work. 4 or 5 years at UAB as Bartow's top recruiter. Another 7 or so on Kirk's staff.

Not saying it won't work here for Penny, but if he doesn't get the top job, he shares some of the blame. He could have gone the assistant route and then the mid-tier HC job like Damon is doing. Penny chose not to to it that way, thinking he can jump right to the head spot. Could turn out to be right, time will tell.

(02-16-2018 11:35 AM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:16 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 11:52 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  What Bowen should do is just pay Penny 20% more than whatever program is willing to offer him first.

Let another school set the market rate.

If he put his name out there - which he may actively be doing now - he would get some offers, don't you think? Maybe no P5's, but probably some CUSA maybe some AAC.

But he has more value at Memphis. Probably more than 20%. And does he seriously want to go to Greenville, North Carolina?

Finch wasn't getting any HC offers when we hired him. Worked out okay for most of the years. Finch probably would not have accomplished what he did here, anywhere else. I think of Penny along those lines.

But recall Finch apprenticed at UAB and Memphis before being hired as HC. Whatever his ceiling may have been as a head coach, he put in the work to prepare for the opportunity.

should have read the rest of the thread before I replied

No problem. These threads get pretty long sometimes.

Larry was a very intense, demanding coach; Smart enough to hire Dave Loos as X/0 coach; one of the best motivators we have had as head coach. Good recruiter. He would have been a good coach at UAB, Tennessee and any number of schools in the south.
02-16-2018 12:21 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.
MemphisTigers.org is the number one message board for Memphis Tigers sports.