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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Source?
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 01:20 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Source?

http://www.whatyoupayforsports.com/2015/01/
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 04:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:06 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Another thing ESPN is betting on is the skinny bundle is here to stay. Skinny bundles currently don't have ESPN3 option so ESPN+ can fill the void.

Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.

No, ESPN was getting its full carriage fee from you in your ISP bill even if you didn't have cable.

"Some internet service providers have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 (along with other services that use the TV Everywhere system) violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are not granted access to ESPN3. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 11:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 04:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.

No, ESPN was getting its full carriage fee from you in your ISP bill even if you didn't have cable.

"Some internet service providers have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 (along with other services that use the TV Everywhere system) violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are not granted access to ESPN3. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3

ESPN is not getting $6.50 from internet only customers

If they were they wouldn't be rocking the boat like they are
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 01:04 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 11:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 04:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.

No, ESPN was getting its full carriage fee from you in your ISP bill even if you didn't have cable.

"Some internet service providers have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 (along with other services that use the TV Everywhere system) violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are not granted access to ESPN3. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3

ESPN is not getting $6.50 from internet only customers

If they were they wouldn't be rocking the boat like they are

"A person familiar with the matter said that Dish is paying at least as much in carriage fees for the channels as it would under a traditional distribution deal." https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/05/espn-wit...ewers.html
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It just gives me the creeps to see corporations like ESPN get this big and monopolistic .... and I'm a dang free market libertarian. Them eating all the Fox RSNs has really given me the willies and they're still hard on the gas.

You know maybe I should take another look at Teddy Roosevelt's policies in some specific areas.

On the plus side ... if this money train is going all the way to the station GT will be cashing in on the ride too.
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(02-17-2018 04:04 PM)orangefan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 01:04 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 11:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 04:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  ??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.

No, ESPN was getting its full carriage fee from you in your ISP bill even if you didn't have cable.

"Some internet service providers have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 (along with other services that use the TV Everywhere system) violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are not granted access to ESPN3. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3

ESPN is not getting $6.50 from internet only customers

If they were they wouldn't be rocking the boat like they are

"A person familiar with the matter said that Dish is paying at least as much in carriage fees for the channels as it would under a traditional distribution deal." https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/05/espn-wit...ewers.html
That's for sling

Sling includes traditional ESPN which would get $6.50 $7

If you subscribe to just Internet you are not paying ESPN anywhere close to that amount
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RE: MLS service being replaced by ESPN+
(02-17-2018 11:23 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 04:03 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-17-2018 12:53 AM)ColKurtz Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:37 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  Most skinny bundles do offer ESPN3. Not even an upcharge on Sling TV Orange, for example, while certain things like the SECN are $5 more.
The carriage fee for internet providers a few years ago was five cents per subscriber per month. I saw it stated someplace that it was a dime now but haven't been able to find a link.

??? The majority of streaming options include ESPN, and Disney is getting upwards of $6.50/mo carraige fees on those, not a whole lot less than cable carraige.

Not talking about cable. Talking about internet providers offering ESPN3. Before Direct added online options I got ESPN3 from ATT as a part of my internet service. No ESPN games, no ESPN2 games, no ESPNU games. Just ESPN3.

ISPs pay a carriage fee to offer ESPN3 and since it doesn't include ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNU, ESPN News, it is not $6.50.

No, ESPN was getting its full carriage fee from you in your ISP bill even if you didn't have cable.

"Some internet service providers have complained to the FCC that ESPN3 (along with other services that use the TV Everywhere system) violates the principles of network neutrality. ESPN3 bundles its content into the fees of the participating ISP, regardless of whether or not users partake in accessing its content. If a particular ISP does not pay subscription fees to ESPN, users of that ISP are not granted access to ESPN3. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESPN3
That doesn't say what you think it says.
No one would be stupid enough to charge their customers $6.50 to get only ESPN3 content.
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