Being reported that he was a member of “resistance” and “Syrian resistance” social media groups.

There is a way to get your agenda. 2/3rd votes in the House and Senate followed by ratification by 3/4ths of State legislatures or by a convention of states called for by 2/3rds of state legislatures.

Your European style gun control laws cannot come into existence without that. CANNOT. You know this.

The practical action is to try to find ways to do things like keep mentally ill minors who threaten others and have firearms from having them and keep them from acting out and/or gaining access to places that they have threatened.

Or you can keep screaming for something that you KNOW you cannot get because you think it scores partisan political points and preys on emotional reactions to tragedy.




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Perhaps if Facebook and Youtube weren’t so focused on censoring conservatives, they’d be quicker to shut down the bomb making groups that are allowed to operate and Cruz was a part of.


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(02-14-2018 06:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Perhaps if Facebook and Youtube weren’t so focused on censoring conservatives, they’d be quicker to shut down the bomb making groups that are allowed to operate and Cruz was a part of.


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Maybe if we didn't have the ability for teenagers to legally have a gun collection like the shooter had, then maybe this wouldn't be such a problem.

Not to mention the pedophiles that are allowed to operate.


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(02-14-2018 06:47 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  There is a way to get your agenda. 2/3rd votes in the House and Senate followed by ratification by 3/4ths of State legislatures or by a convention of states called for by 2/3rds of state legislatures.

Your European style gun control laws cannot come into existence without that. CANNOT. You know this.

The practical action is to try to find ways to do things like keep mentally ill minors who threaten others and have firearms from having them and keep them from acting out and/or gaining access to places that they have threatened.

Or you can keep screaming for something that you KNOW you cannot get because you think it scores partisan political points and preys on emotional reactions to tragedy.




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Its not unconstitutional

1) to have a database with every gun in it
2) to enact mandatory minimum jail time for not registering the firearm
3) to hold gun owners strictly liable for the firearms
4) to tax guns and ammo
5) to require licensing and mental health evaluations for firearm ownership

None of these things require a constitutional amendment.

(02-14-2018 06:55 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Not to mention the pedophiles that are allowed to operate.


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Yea its not the guns...its videogames. Sure, right, whatever.

(02-14-2018 06:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Perhaps if Facebook and Youtube weren’t so focused on censoring conservatives, they’d be quicker to shut down the bomb making groups that are allowed to operate and Cruz was a part of.


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Maybe if we didn't have the ability for teenagers to legally have a gun collection like the shooter had, then maybe this wouldn't be such a problem.

What guns were in his collection? what guns did he use?

(02-14-2018 06:53 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:49 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Perhaps if Facebook and Youtube weren’t so focused on censoring conservatives, they’d be quicker to shut down the bomb making groups that are allowed to operate and Cruz was a part of.


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Maybe if we didn't have the ability for teenagers to legally have a gun collection like the shooter had, then maybe this wouldn't be such a problem.

The reports I’ve seen are saying he used 1 gun. What does a collection have to do with anything?

Re: Teenager — If you’re proposing we raise the age to legally own a gun from 18 to 21, and have some statistics to back it up, I’d entertain that idea.

(02-14-2018 06:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Its not unconstitutional

1) to have federal a database with persons email, facebook, and twitter account on it
2) to enact mandatory minimum jail time for not registering a facebook, twitter, email account
3) to hold facebook, twitter, email users accountable for the account
4) to tax email, face book, and twitter accounts
5) to require licensing and mental health evaluations for ownership of facebook, twitter, and email accounts.

None of these things require a constitutional amendment.

fixed and Seems legit

(02-14-2018 06:44 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Being reported that he was a member of “resistance” and “Syrian resistance” social media groups.

By the same people who accused the Quebec shooter of being a Muslim terrorist (he was a white supremacist), the Las Vegas bomber of being an Antifa guy (no evidence of that - they actually even named the wrong person), etc.

I think you might want to take Alex Jones and Gateway Pundit with a grain of salt. They're always going to claim its one of the anti-Trumpers. Every single time. No vetting happens with them.

And by Syrian resistance groups, that could mean anything, including following groups that support Assad/Putin. Or just another gun nut with too many guns following groups because he gets his rocks off by gunplay.

Exactly what is a teenager doing with a gun collection?

(02-14-2018 06:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  If you’re proposing we raise the age to own a gun from 18 to 21, and have some statistics to back it up, I’d entertain that idea.

Yup, seems like it's worth discussing.

(02-14-2018 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the same people who accused the Quebec shooter of being a Muslim terrorist (he was a white supremacist), the Las Vegas bomber of being an Antifa guy (no evidence of that - they actually even named the wrong person), etc.

What if they are right tom?

(02-14-2018 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the same people who accused the Quebec shooter of being a Muslim terrorist (he was a white supremacist), the Las Vegas bomber of being an Antifa guy (no evidence of that - they actually even named the wrong person), etc.

What if they are right tom?

He’ll disappear.

Fyi, gateway pundit has screenshots of the accounts in question. They have since been deactivated.

(02-14-2018 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the same people who accused the Quebec shooter of being a Muslim terrorist (he was a white supremacist), the Las Vegas bomber of being an Antifa guy (no evidence of that - they actually even named the wrong person), etc.

What if they are right tom?

It means nothing. White nationalists have killed more. The key is how do we stop males who are right wing from using firearms to kill lots of people AND non-right wing males from using firearms to kill lots of people.

Seriously, if say, 1% of mass shootings ae by non-right wingers, and Gateway Pundit and Infowars automatically accuse whomever the shooter is of being a liberal or a Muslim, the might be correct 1% of the time or so. But it doesn't validate their 'reporting'. BTW, Gateway actually named the wrong person in the Las Vegas incident.

Most likely, this dude just got off on gun violence.

(02-14-2018 05:54 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  18th school shooting in 2018 already. As a parent of two high schoolers, that's just so sad and beyond belief.

They're now saying the shooter was a former student and someone who a lot of other students knew was a bit unhinged?

I don't know if we need TSA-type entrances into schools, or maybe a minimum of 2-3 full time school policemen and women at every decent sized high school? I know my kids school of almost 3000 students has that many cops on campus at all times. Unfortunately or fortunately I guess, they're mostly used for traffic control.

What we need is to stop teaching kids to hate society and the world and stop encouraging mental illness and glorifying suicide.

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(02-14-2018 06:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:47 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  There is a way to get your agenda. 2/3rd votes in the House and Senate followed by ratification by 3/4ths of State legislatures or by a convention of states called for by 2/3rds of state legislatures.

Your European style gun control laws cannot come into existence without that. CANNOT. You know this.

The practical action is to try to find ways to do things like keep mentally ill minors who threaten others and have firearms from having them and keep them from acting out and/or gaining access to places that they have threatened.

Or you can keep screaming for something that you KNOW you cannot get because you think it scores partisan political points and preys on emotional reactions to tragedy.




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Its not unconstitutional

1) to have a database with every gun in it
2) to enact mandatory minimum jail time for not registering the firearm
3) to hold gun owners strictly liable for the firearms
4) to tax guns and ammo
5) to require licensing and mental health evaluations for firearm ownership

None of these things require a constitutional amendment.

#3 and #5 are certainly unconstitutional.

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(02-14-2018 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:59 PM)Kronke Wrote:  If you’re proposing we raise the age to own a gun from 18 to 21, and have some statistics to back it up, I’d entertain that idea.

Yup, seems like it's worth discussing.

Then we need to raise the age of adulthood to 21 as well as ban military service.

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(02-14-2018 07:13 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:56 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 06:47 PM)ark30inf Wrote:  There is a way to get your agenda. 2/3rd votes in the House and Senate followed by ratification by 3/4ths of State legislatures or by a convention of states called for by 2/3rds of state legislatures.

Your European style gun control laws cannot come into existence without that. CANNOT. You know this.

The practical action is to try to find ways to do things like keep mentally ill minors who threaten others and have firearms from having them and keep them from acting out and/or gaining access to places that they have threatened.

Or you can keep screaming for something that you KNOW you cannot get because you think it scores partisan political points and preys on emotional reactions to tragedy.




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Its not unconstitutional

1) to have a database with every gun in it
2) to enact mandatory minimum jail time for not registering the firearm
3) to hold gun owners strictly liable for the firearms
4) to tax guns and ammo
5) to require licensing and mental health evaluations for firearm ownership

None of these things require a constitutional amendment.

#3 and #5 are certainly unconstitutional.

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Not if you make an amendment.

(02-14-2018 07:06 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 07:01 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(02-14-2018 07:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  By the same people who accused the Quebec shooter of being a Muslim terrorist (he was a white supremacist), the Las Vegas bomber of being an Antifa guy (no evidence of that - they actually even named the wrong person), etc.

What if they are right tom?

It means nothing. White nationalists have killed more. The key is how do we stop males who are right wing from using firearms to kill lots of people AND non-right wing males from using firearms to kill lots of people.

Seriously, if say, 1% of mass shootings ae by non-right wingers, and Gateway Pundit and Infowars automatically accuse whomever the shooter is of being a liberal or a Muslim, the might be correct 1% of the time or so. But it doesn't validate their 'reporting'. BTW, Gateway actually named the wrong person in the Las Vegas incident.

Most likely, this dude just got off on gun violence.

Apparently, this kid was a KNOWN problem. All kinds of kids at the school saying everyone talked about this for a while, "He's gonna shoot up the school" being a common quote. That's not a gun problem. That a social discipline problem. That means people have known this kid has issues and nobody in the HOME or PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM have had the balls and/or LEGAL capability to do something about it. He was 19 years old, and recently expelled from school. THOSE are the real issues. An America with no RESPONSIBILITY and REPERCUSSIONS for actions leads to this BS. There are families out there tonight dealing with a loss of a young family member because this kid's parents, community, and the education system don't actually deal with issues appropriately. The kid made threats of killing people last year and their response to teachers was "don't allow him on school grounds with a book bag." WTF. Seriously, WTF. That kid needed to be in juvenile detention at the LEAST (if not adult jail) for communicating threats, but no... we'll just say "don't let him on school grounds with a book bag" and that will solve the issue.

This is NOT a gun issue, it's a social responsibility issue to deal with the asshats of society that are incapable of living real life with the rest of us normal thinking humans that don't resort to killing someone because they're upset at something.