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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 04:12 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 08:35 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:44 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  Penny can recruit top level talent.

Penny has proven he can assemble a solid squad of local AAU players...a far cry to the daily grind of recruiting for a high-major college basketball program.

Add to that, there are strict rules around when/how you can communicate, what seemingly innocent interactions might be considered and added benefit or inducement, how things he might have provided any number of players directly or indirectly prior to taking the job might impact his ability to recruit those players once he becomes a D1 coach.

Plus, beyond just coaching, we would be asking him to run a multi-million dollar organization with responsibility for direct reports and administrative duties that are likely far beyond any white collar job he has held in the past.

I think you should read the rest of my original post and not just the one sentence G'town cherry picked from it.
02-16-2018 06:36 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
The choice isn't just keeping Tubby or hiring Penny.

Penny's a great guy and fantastic ambassador to the program, but he does need some reps in the assistant chair to demonstrate to himself and others that he has what it takes to turn around a struggling program.

There are MANY coaches out there with lots of high level coaching experience with proven ability to run a basketball program, I just don't think he's ready for the top job YET.
02-16-2018 06:40 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 06:36 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:12 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 08:35 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:44 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  Penny can recruit top level talent.

Penny has proven he can assemble a solid squad of local AAU players...a far cry to the daily grind of recruiting for a high-major college basketball program.

Add to that, there are strict rules around when/how you can communicate, what seemingly innocent interactions might be considered and added benefit or inducement, how things he might have provided any number of players directly or indirectly prior to taking the job might impact his ability to recruit those players once he becomes a D1 coach.

Plus, beyond just coaching, we would be asking him to run a multi-million dollar organization with responsibility for direct reports and administrative duties that are likely far beyond any white collar job he has held in the past.

I think you should read the rest of my original post and not just the one sentence G'town cherry picked from it.

i don't disagree with the sentiment but that takes us back to the reality that Penny has made it clear that it's the HC chair or nothing at Memphis.
02-16-2018 06:43 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:36 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:12 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 08:35 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(02-15-2018 10:44 AM)Born2Steel Wrote:  Penny can recruit top level talent.

Penny has proven he can assemble a solid squad of local AAU players...a far cry to the daily grind of recruiting for a high-major college basketball program.

Add to that, there are strict rules around when/how you can communicate, what seemingly innocent interactions might be considered and added benefit or inducement, how things he might have provided any number of players directly or indirectly prior to taking the job might impact his ability to recruit those players once he becomes a D1 coach.

Plus, beyond just coaching, we would be asking him to run a multi-million dollar organization with responsibility for direct reports and administrative duties that are likely far beyond any white collar job he has held in the past.

I think you should read the rest of my original post and not just the one sentence G'town cherry picked from it.

i don't disagree with the sentiment but that takes us back to the reality that Penny has made it clear that it's the HC chair or nothing at Memphis.

Did Penny actually say that? Not being argumentative here, I really don't know.
02-16-2018 06:45 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
So here's another thought....

The administration has been able to find assistant coaches from other schools/conferences, that most of us have never heard of, on the football side of things.(Fuente, and Norvell) I can't believe they don't have the ability to do that with basketball too.

All I can see is this program is heading over a cliff if some positive move doesn't get made very soon.
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 06:45 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:36 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:12 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 08:35 AM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  Penny has proven he can assemble a solid squad of local AAU players...a far cry to the daily grind of recruiting for a high-major college basketball program.

Add to that, there are strict rules around when/how you can communicate, what seemingly innocent interactions might be considered and added benefit or inducement, how things he might have provided any number of players directly or indirectly prior to taking the job might impact his ability to recruit those players once he becomes a D1 coach.

Plus, beyond just coaching, we would be asking him to run a multi-million dollar organization with responsibility for direct reports and administrative duties that are likely far beyond any white collar job he has held in the past.

I think you should read the rest of my original post and not just the one sentence G'town cherry picked from it.

i don't disagree with the sentiment but that takes us back to the reality that Penny has made it clear that it's the HC chair or nothing at Memphis.

Did Penny actually say that? Not being argumentative here, I really don't know.

Agreed. All I've ever heard or read is that somebody has indicated that they think Penny is/could be interested in the HC job. Unless he's reached out directly to the other ambassadors and AD, it's all speculative BS and pointless.
02-16-2018 06:49 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 06:49 PM)GermantownTiger Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:45 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:43 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:36 PM)Born2Steel Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:12 PM)Cotten Wrote:  Add to that, there are strict rules around when/how you can communicate, what seemingly innocent interactions might be considered and added benefit or inducement, how things he might have provided any number of players directly or indirectly prior to taking the job might impact his ability to recruit those players once he becomes a D1 coach.

Plus, beyond just coaching, we would be asking him to run a multi-million dollar organization with responsibility for direct reports and administrative duties that are likely far beyond any white collar job he has held in the past.

I think you should read the rest of my original post and not just the one sentence G'town cherry picked from it.

i don't disagree with the sentiment but that takes us back to the reality that Penny has made it clear that it's the HC chair or nothing at Memphis.

Did Penny actually say that? Not being argumentative here, I really don't know.

Agreed. All I've ever heard or read is that somebody has indicated that they think Penny is/could be interested in the HC job. Unless he's reached out directly to the other ambassadors and AD, it's all speculative BS and pointless.

I've been told by multiple people who speak to AD execs and who spoke to the former coaching staff regularly that he has been approached about a position on the staff more than once over the years and has said he has no interest in being an assistant coach at Memphis.

Many others here have been told the same thing. I am not a first hand source, and I guess things could change, but the folks with access say no way, no how, it ain't happening.
02-16-2018 07:27 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-14-2018 11:23 PM)Cotten Wrote:  
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(02-14-2018 07:50 PM)mapdude Wrote:  Cause he knows that Tubby is captain of a leaking dingy and will be gone soon. Don't be surprised to see him maneuver himself for consideration when the job eventually opens up.

So, that's 'Tone, Penny, and now Andy? Anybody else we know maneuvering for starting gate position?

How about Musselman at Nevada

or Travis Ford of St. Louis....(former coach of Oklahoma State) he could kill it here.
02-16-2018 07:57 PM
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
(02-16-2018 06:29 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:22 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:15 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 06:12 PM)jamammy Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 04:23 PM)Tigx Wrote:  And Team Penny is one of the best funded AAU teams in the country. Fly to tournaments, eat well, stay in decent hotels. He wouldn't have the money advantage over the teams we need to recruit against for Top 100 recruits.

Calipari did.

And then some.

The crazy TV money for the P5s has changed the landscape so much since 2009.

Then what's the use.

We should just shut her down.

Or better yet, keep Tubby.

Why try to recruit anyway?

Right?

Maybe when Joe gets cut loose you can fill his shoes.

In the meantime, I hear IU wants some more fan goofs.

Pffft.

Jeez man. Penny talk gets you fired up.

Memphis will still pay what it takes to compete in hoops, but we can't money whip in hoops the Ole Misses and Moo States and Vandy's like we used to. The TV money disparity is too great. As I believe you said, it is what it is.

Passionate, hotshot.

Passionate.

We CAN compete with anybody and everybody.

Defeatist mentality is Tubby talk.

I believe Penny CAN and WILL win big here.

And more importantly, win big NOW and for YEARS to come.
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RE: My thoughts on Kennedy at Ole Miss
People talk about their own fears. Penny doesn't seem to be afraid and he knows the Memphis climate.

Let the big dog eat.

What I'm more concerned with is leaving things the way they are, or bringing in yet another lackluster hire who will take 3 years to bring back any hope.
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(02-14-2018 07:50 PM)mapdude Wrote:  After 12 years he came to a reality check. He finally realized that he was not going to ever recruit to that place and be the successful coach he wanted to be. Better to cut his losses and move on. He gave up on Ole Miss, not the other way around.

Why?

Cause he knows that Tubby is captain of a leaking dingy and will be gone soon. Don't be surprised to see him maneuver himself for consideration when the job eventually opens up. I think, in the right situation he could build a really successful program. So he will take some time, recharge, and come out swinging when the time is right.

Not sure if he would be my choice to replace the Tubster, but it might work...

Discuss.

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02-17-2018 01:15 AM
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