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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
The ACC/SEC are filthy, prostitution wh*res.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
Do you know what the worst part of all this is?
It's that if these were plain old explicitly for-profit companies (or even some professional sports leagues) trying to hire these kids as employees, it would be 100% acceptable to pay for flights, for dinners, for travel expenses for interviews (recruiting trips). The money given to sign the kids would be considered a sign on bonus. The payments to the players, that is.
The payments to coaches, etc, are essentially kick-backs or bribes (which is absolutely illegal).

But in NCAA sports? Nah. Forget about it. It's illegal. It's a measure of control. Is it a problem? Of course it is. But everything I'm seeing here leads me to believe that this is going to be the report that precedes a break-off. These schools don't want to stop doing this. They don't want to stop getting away with it. The NCAA will sanction the schools, sure. But I think most of these schools will use it as their long awaited opportunity to break away.

It's disgusting, but it's no real surprise to me.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines
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(02-15-2018 11:37 PM)AndShock Wrote:  lol @ anyone who thinks programs are actually going to suffer from this

A few “rogue” assistants are gonna be thrown in prison and business will continue as normal.

The difference is it ain’t an NCAA investigation. It’s a criminal inves5igation by an entity with full police and judicial power to compel people to testify.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
no UConn. Well I guess we only have to deal with the ncaa investigation that is going on now
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(02-23-2018 10:09 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  no UConn. Well I guess we only have to deal with the ncaa investigation that is going on now

Meaning we'll get hit the hardest.
02-23-2018 10:15 AM
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(02-23-2018 10:15 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 10:09 AM)Huskypride Wrote:  no UConn. Well I guess we only have to deal with the ncaa investigation that is going on now

Meaning we'll get hit the hardest.

yeah but not as hard a Wichita state and some of the smaller basketball school. that are involved in this **** show.
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(02-23-2018 10:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines

.....Read what he was responding to.
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(02-23-2018 10:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines

Woosh. I responded to a statement made that assumed something that wasn’t even close to implied in the article.

Interesting remarks from fans whose coach is Kelvin Sampson.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
The loan to Fred was in February of his senior year. So doubtful WSU was involved at all in that. Most likely scenario is WSU has to vacate wins from late Feb to March of 2016.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 10:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines

Woosh. I responded to a statement made that assumed something that wasn’t even close to implied in the article.

Interesting remarks from fans whose coach is Kelvin Sampson.

HAHA...... I was just kidding.. i wanted to get some shocker fans riled up this morning. I really hope none of the AAC teams get dragged into this.
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
This is not a knock on any AAC school that may be affected by this or directed at any poster. But if the punishment is going to be 'vacating wins' then they may as well not even punish any school.
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(02-23-2018 10:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  The loan to Fred was in February of his senior year. So doubtful WSU was involved at all in that. Most likely scenario is WSU has to vacate wins from late Feb to March of 2016.

But if anyone on Marshall's staff at the time is found to have known about it, it could be a much bigger deal.
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(02-23-2018 10:27 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 10:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines

Woosh. I responded to a statement made that assumed something that wasn’t even close to implied in the article.

Interesting remarks from fans whose coach is Kelvin Sampson.

and your point , his phone calls where at iu..
if any thing kelvin sampson and larry brown are why you should be worried ..

they essentially tried to ruin his life for making 1 too many calls..

they tried to destroy smu/larry for a self reported, situation that involved 1 player cheating on an exam without the coaches knowledge
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RE: Part 2: Trouble on the horizon for top basketball programs..
(02-23-2018 10:04 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

It doesn't have to, it doesn't matter if a school was directly involved if a player is ruled ineligible all wins are vacated

Will be curious how the NCAA handles this.. make an example this will not be tolerated or realize it wasnt that much money in the bigger picture and does something small like fines

You are kidding yourself if you think the ncaa will do anything. They will claim its not in their jurisdiction or some bs like the uNC case. They cant punish half of the schools in the country. Kind of makes me wish we were cheating too.
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(02-23-2018 08:50 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 06:59 AM)Philipvarg Wrote:  https://www.yahoo.com/sports/exclusive-f...38484.html

Looks like Wichita pays its players ...LOL..

Uh where does it say WSU paid him?

STRICT LIABILITY they call it
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(02-23-2018 10:44 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  
(02-23-2018 10:38 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  The loan to Fred was in February of his senior year. So doubtful WSU was involved at all in that. Most likely scenario is WSU has to vacate wins from late Feb to March of 2016.

But if anyone on Marshall's staff at the time is found to have known about it, it could be a much bigger deal.

Correct, but yet again. Why would WSU be involved at that point. This isn't a Louisville situation where they needed the money to get him to commit. This happened 4 years after his commitment.
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Sure - this will happen.

NCAA president Mark Emmert released a statement Friday morning.

"These allegations, if true, point to systematic failures that must be fixed and fixed now if we want college sports in America. Simply put, people who engage in this kind of behavior have no place in college sports. They are an affront to all those who play by the rules. Following the Southern District of New York's indictments last year, the NCAA Board of Governors and I formed the independent Commission on College Basketball, chaired by Condoleezza Rice, to provide recommendations on how to clean up the sport. With these latest allegations, it's clear this work is more important now than ever. The Board and I are completely committed to making transformational changes to the game and ensuring all involved in college basketball do so with integrity. We also will continue to cooperate with the efforts of federal prosecutors to identify and punish the unscrupulous parties seeking to exploit the system through criminal acts."
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We're cheaters now? We really ARE a National Power... 02-13-banana


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Book ‘em Danno.
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