Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)
Open TigerLinks
 

Post Reply 
How good would this team be?
Author Message
Bookmark and Share
Shooters Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,211
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: -46
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
Post: #41
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 07:27 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Does Stammers ever tire of being wrong? From exactly two years ago yesterday, Feb. 18, 2016, Josh's last year, the Helmsman piggybacking on the Commercial Appeal having to file FOIA requests to get the true attendance at Tiger games: http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/sports/low-...f0f69.html


" . . . as the Memphis Tigers men’s basketball program has had an average attendance of only 5,889 fans per home game this season, as discovered in a Freedom of Information Act request filed by The Commercial Appeal."

That is with 3 home games left in the 2015-2016 season. We had to give away tickets to get the average up to 6,000 to get the $600K from the Grizzlies.

Now lie again, for about the 100th time, about how "Attendance went from 12,000 to 6,000 in Tubby's second season."

We're going to witness some major league backtracking now.

Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.
02-20-2018 12:38 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Tigx Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 11,419
Joined: Sep 2011
Reputation: 541
I Root For: Sanity
Location:
Post: #42
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 07:27 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Does Stammers ever tire of being wrong? From exactly two years ago yesterday, Feb. 18, 2016, Josh's last year, the Helmsman piggybacking on the Commercial Appeal having to file FOIA requests to get the true attendance at Tiger games: http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/sports/low-...f0f69.html


" . . . as the Memphis Tigers men’s basketball program has had an average attendance of only 5,889 fans per home game this season, as discovered in a Freedom of Information Act request filed by The Commercial Appeal."

That is with 3 home games left in the 2015-2016 season. We had to give away tickets to get the average up to 6,000 to get the $600K from the Grizzlies.

Now lie again, for about the 100th time, about how "Attendance went from 12,000 to 6,000 in Tubby's second season."

We're going to witness some major league backtracking now.

Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.
02-20-2018 12:43 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Shooters Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,211
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: -46
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
Post: #43
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

They did NOT discount per seat donation at least through the 2015 season, hence the very high revenue per seat through that year. How did you arrive at your contention that "Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years"? Unless you consider the years 2016 and 2017 "years"?
02-20-2018 02:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #44
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

You must be a little bit thick. Tickets sold were 12,028. How many tickets were sold last year? How many this year? Please provide links that don't exist to support your nonsense.

Try not to hurt yourself answering this question. Would you say that the average ticket price including donations is higher, lower or the same now as it was under Pastner?
02-20-2018 02:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #45
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 02:35 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

They did NOT discount per seat donation at least through the 2015 season, hence the very high revenue per seat through that year. How did you arrive at your contention that "Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years"? Unless you consider the years 2016 and 2017 "years"?

Jethro has been using his weirdo imagination and embarrassment at looking like a fool in front of everyone to calculate seat revenue.
02-20-2018 03:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #46
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

If you are making the dumb claim that tickets sold were around 6,000 Pastner's last season, then tickets sold are around 3,000 this season. Even the other 3 sheeples are too embarrassed to try and defend you.
There have been a dozen people on this board and friends with season tickets that have told me that $60/seat was a conservative estimate when Pastner was here.
02-20-2018 03:04 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Shooters Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,211
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: -46
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
Post: #47
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 03:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

If you are making the dumb claim that tickets sold were around 6,000 Pastner's last season, then tickets sold are around 3,000 this season. Even the other 3 sheeples are too embarrassed to try and defend you.
There have been a dozen people on this board and friends with season tickets that have told me that $60/seat was a conservative estimate when Pastner was here.

You do realize that season ticket revenue alone per seat is around and average of $45 very conservatively. That does NOT count per seat donation.
02-20-2018 03:11 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #48
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 03:11 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

If you are making the dumb claim that tickets sold were around 6,000 Pastner's last season, then tickets sold are around 3,000 this season. Even the other 3 sheeples are too embarrassed to try and defend you.
There have been a dozen people on this board and friends with season tickets that have told me that $60/seat was a conservative estimate when Pastner was here.

You do realize that season ticket revenue alone per seat is around and average of $45 very conservatively. That does NOT count per seat donation.

That's what I have been saying. I have been using $60 to be sure that my numbers are conservative and not open to dispute. I have been told by some that it is actually $80 and others that it is over $100.

At $60 the difference between 12,000 and 6,000 is $6.5 million and that assumes that the program will be getting the same money per seat under Tubby as they were in Pastner's last season. We know that there is no chance of that.

If Pastner's last team was getting $80 and Tubby is getting $60, the difference is over $11 million per year when you include the $800,000 from the Grizzlies. All numbers will be even worse for Tubby next season.

I'm trying to make it as fair and balanced so that even simple folk like tigx can understand the horrible situation we are in.
02-20-2018 03:17 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Shooters Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,211
Joined: Jan 2018
Reputation: -46
I Root For: Memphis Tigers
Location:
Post: #49
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 03:17 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:11 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 03:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:43 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:38 PM)Shooters Wrote:  The story here is not the drop in attendance but the fact Memphis had among the highest, if not the highest, per seat revenues in the nation through at least the 2014 season. I was told this by an impeccable source. The University hid it through TSF and transfers to football and other legal accounting magic.

He keeps claiming attendance was at 12,000 for Josh's last year, which is a lie.

Re the seat revenues, they have been dropping for years. No assurance we ever get more than a percentage of them back. The Cal years might prove to be the outliers.

If you are making the dumb claim that tickets sold were around 6,000 Pastner's last season, then tickets sold are around 3,000 this season. Even the other 3 sheeples are too embarrassed to try and defend you.
There have been a dozen people on this board and friends with season tickets that have told me that $60/seat was a conservative estimate when Pastner was here.

You do realize that season ticket revenue alone per seat is around and average of $45 very conservatively. That does NOT count per seat donation.

That's what I have been saying. I have been using $60 to be sure that my numbers are conservative and not open to dispute. I have been told by some that it is actually $80 and others that it is over $100.

At $60 the difference between 12,000 and 6,000 is $6.5 million and that assumes that the program will be getting the same money per seat under Tubby as they were in Pastner's last season. We know that there is no chance of that.

If Pastner's last team was getting $80 and Tubby is getting $60, the difference is over $11 million per year when you include the $800,000 from the Grizzlies. All numbers will be even worse for Tubby next season.

I'm trying to make it as fair and balanced so that even simple folk like tigx can understand the horrible situation we are in.

"that assumes that the program will be getting the same money per seat under Tubby as they were in Pastner's last season. We know that there is no chance of that."

We will be lucky to get back to 2015 numbers under any coach. There had been no decrease in per seat donation under pastner and just a "special" they ran for a few games this year; forget the details but did not apply to whole year per seat donation (for the sake of brevity use PSD)
02-20-2018 03:58 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stammers Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 38,187
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 1739
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Montreal, Canada
Post: #50
RE: How good would this team be?
(02-20-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 12:12 PM)Shooters Wrote:  
(02-20-2018 01:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(02-19-2018 07:27 PM)Tigx Wrote:  Does Stammers ever tire of being wrong? From exactly two years ago yesterday, Feb. 18, 2016, Josh's last year, the Helmsman piggybacking on the Commercial Appeal having to file FOIA requests to get the true attendance at Tiger games: http://www.dailyhelmsman.com/sports/low-...f0f69.html


" . . . as the Memphis Tigers men’s basketball program has had an average attendance of only 5,889 fans per home game this season, as discovered in a Freedom of Information Act request filed by The Commercial Appeal."

That is with 3 home games left in the 2015-2016 season. We had to give away tickets to get the average up to 6,000 to get the $600K from the Grizzlies.

Now lie again, for about the 100th time, about how "Attendance went from 12,000 to 6,000 in Tubby's second season."

We're going to witness some major league backtracking now.

Still blah blah blah

The per ticket revenue quoted here is laughable.

Everything the Canadian says is laughable.

He's been peddling the attendance lie for months. Attendance dropped to the 6k level under his boy crush. No way to explain it away. End of story.

He is laughing at you Einstein.
02-20-2018 04:01 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
macgar32 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 32,671
Joined: Dec 2007
Reputation: 758
I Root For: Memphis
Location: Bartlett
Post: #51
RE: How good would this team be?
Add Leron Black to the list...I completely forgot about him
02-20-2018 08:54 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.
MemphisTigers.org is the number one message board for Memphis Tigers sports.