Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

Not as good as you think. Fisher and Chiozza weren't going to the same school. Nick and Dedric and JW3 all play the same position.

Why do people still bring up Marshall? Because once he was rated on some recruiting board? We saw him, trust your eyes, he sucks.

And still not a great shooting team.

Whose ego is the largest. That would be a dysfunctional team in today's game. This is not the 70-80's. Every one of those guys would think they should be the next one to the NBA.

(02-16-2018 05:41 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  Whose ego is the largest. That would be a dysfunctional team in today's game. This is not the 70-80's. Every one of those guys would think they should be the next one to the NBA.

Reminds of of Josh's last teams, when we had like 5 power forwards. And nobody who could shoot. Also didn't have a coach, but I digress.

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

(02-16-2018 05:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

look at Josh's season by season results then look at Joe Jackson's season results.

Joe Jackson MADE Josh -- he made him by making that recruiting class possible ( more layers came later to play with Joe) and Joe made Josh by glossing over Josh's coaching inadequacies .

If not for Joe Jackson the Josh Pastner experiment ended after a few hum drum years and Josh would have gone back to being an Asst Coach. -- Joe Jackson MADE Josh Pastner

(02-16-2018 05:59 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

look at Josh's season by season results then look at Joe Jackson's season results.

Joe Jackson MADE Josh -- he made him by making that recruiting class possible ( more layers came later to play with Joe) and Joe made Josh by glossing over Josh's coaching inadequacies .

If not for Joe Jackson the Josh Pastner experiment ended after a few hum drum years and Josh would have gone back to being an Asst Coach. -- Joe Jackson MADE Josh Pastner

I thought this was accepted fact by now.

At least Josh repaid Joe by dicking him over repeatedly and shoving him under the bus all the time

That's a lot of WHO'S

(02-16-2018 05:41 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  Whose ego is the largest. That would be a dysfunctional team in today's game. This is not the 70-80's. Every one of those guys would think they should be the next one to the NBA.

FYI The College teams of the 80s were the best. Most all NBA players,whether 4 years away or 1, were still playing CBB.

(02-16-2018 05:59 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

look at Josh's season by season results then look at Joe Jackson's season results.

Joe Jackson MADE Josh -- he made him by making that recruiting class possible ( more layers came later to play with Joe) and Joe made Josh by glossing over Josh's coaching inadequacies .

If not for Joe Jackson the Josh Pastner experiment ended after a few hum drum years and Josh would have gone back to being an Asst Coach. -- Joe Jackson MADE Josh Pastner

JJ coasted most of the season and only played hard at conference tournament time. Didn't make ****. And it took his grandma sitting his ass down and giving him a good talking to to keep him from quitting because he got his feeling hurt.

Barely average double figure in career scoring with 12.1 career average and a measly 4.0 asst per game average. If anything JJ was one of the most under performing Tigers ever.

Assist to turnover ratio was an anemic 1.5-1. Hard to locate player rankings from that far back. But if he was playing today those numbers would not even get him listed in the NCAA statistics since they only cover the top 250 players. His best season (2.10-1) would not get him on the list of top 100 ranked players if he was playing today.

(02-17-2018 01:11 AM)Shooters Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:41 PM)tigersroll Wrote:  Whose ego is the largest. That would be a dysfunctional team in today's game. This is not the 70-80's. Every one of those guys would think they should be the next one to the NBA.

FYI The College teams of the 80s were the best. Most all NBA players,whether 4 years away or 1, were still playing CBB.

That is exactly my point. Those 70's and 80's teams had Memphis kids up and down the roster but played for the university and the city. Not so much nowadays.

(02-17-2018 04:10 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:59 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

look at Josh's season by season results then look at Joe Jackson's season results.

Joe Jackson MADE Josh -- he made him by making that recruiting class possible ( more layers came later to play with Joe) and Joe made Josh by glossing over Josh's coaching inadequacies .

If not for Joe Jackson the Josh Pastner experiment ended after a few hum drum years and Josh would have gone back to being an Asst Coach. -- Joe Jackson MADE Josh Pastner

JJ coasted most of the season and only played hard at conference tournament time. Didn't make ****. And it took his grandma sitting his ass down and giving him a good talking to to keep him from quitting because he got his feeling hurt.

Barely average double figure in career scoring with 12.1 career average and a measly 4.0 asst per game average. If anything JJ was one of the most under performing Tigers ever.

Assist to turnover ratio was an anemic 1.5-1. Hard to locate player rankings from that far back. But if he was playing today those numbers would not even get him listed in the NCAA statistics since they only cover the top 250 players. His best season (2.10-1) would not get him on the list of top 100 ranked players if he was playing today.

You must be kidding...

Without JJ then there would likely have been no Black or Crawford.

No tourney that second year for certain and a tougher recruiting road to be able to sell that Josh can win.

Whining about JJ wanting to transfer when everyone wanted to transfer is not an indictment of JJ it is actually a compliment that he stayed.

(02-17-2018 04:10 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:59 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:50 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:48 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(02-16-2018 05:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Dedric Lawson
KJ Lawson
Nick King
Jonathan Williams III
Chris Chiozza
Jeremiah Martin
Markell Crawford
Nathan Hoover
Jemerio Jones
Legerald Vick
Nick Marshall
Jaylen Fisher

all Memphis/ west TN kids.

bubble team

Whose coaching? If Josh, sounds about right.

look at Josh's season by season results then look at Joe Jackson's season results.

Joe Jackson MADE Josh -- he made him by making that recruiting class possible ( more layers came later to play with Joe) and Joe made Josh by glossing over Josh's coaching inadequacies .

If not for Joe Jackson the Josh Pastner experiment ended after a few hum drum years and Josh would have gone back to being an Asst Coach. -- Joe Jackson MADE Josh Pastner

JJ coasted most of the season and only played hard at conference tournament time. Didn't make ****. And it took his grandma sitting his ass down and giving him a good talking to to keep him from quitting because he got his feeling hurt.

Barely average double figure in career scoring with 12.1 career average and a measly 4.0 asst per game average. If anything JJ was one of the most under performing Tigers ever.

Assist to turnover ratio was an anemic 1.5-1. Hard to locate player rankings from that far back. But if he was playing today those numbers would not even get him listed in the NCAA statistics since they only cover the top 250 players. His best season (2.10-1) would not get him on the list of top 100 ranked players if he was playing today.

Wow, you really aren't very smart, are you?

Andre Turner, a pure point guard had a 1.8:1 a/to ratio. Darius had a 1:1 and actually a negative a/to ratio his 2nd year. Jeremiah has a 1.4:1 this year.

If anything, it was your boy Opie who had no idea how to use Joe. Basically the end of the 2nd season, Joe said f-it and put the team on his back in the CUSA tourney.

Joe wasn’t an all American player or anything, but I’d kill to have a guy like him on the roster now.

Joe was a talented player and Josh had no idea how to use that talent, which can be said of other players during his tenure here, like Tarik for example.
If pastner had a team of Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, Barkley, Lebron, Penny, Malone etc, he would lead them to a 21-11 record and a second round tourney exit with half the team transferring.

I think Pastner gets a bad rap when it comes to JJ. He sat him in the Bahamas and JJ's attitude changed and he was a completely different player. He improved as a point guard all 4 seasons. His junior season was one of the finest seasons ever for a Memphis point guard. It is a shame that he lost his shooting touch from outside his senior season, because by then his point guard skills had improved 100% since he first set foot on campus. The 2014 disappointment happened for these reasons.

1. Black transferring
2. JJ couldn't hit from outside
3. Geron couldn't hit from outside
4. Having the bigs run out to almost the 3 point line to hedge on screens
5. Having the guards guard too far away from the basket and too aggressively
6. Pellom being hurt

That team for sure had Sweet 16, Elite 8 talent and potential.

(02-17-2018 12:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  Joe was a talented player and Josh had no idea how to use that talent, which can be said of other players during his tenure here, like Tarik for example.
If pastner had a team of Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, Barkley, Lebron, Penny, Malone etc, he would lead them to a 21-11 record and a second round tourney exit with half the team transferring.

True. Georgia Tech on the way to 11-16 if they lose today to Va Tech (losing now), then play at Virginia and at Clemson, so could easily be 11-18.

Any Josh fluffers left besides the Canadian? Amazing how quiet they have become. Even rue the day guy doesn't seem to rue anymore.

(02-17-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 12:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  Joe was a talented player and Josh had no idea how to use that talent, which can be said of other players during his tenure here, like Tarik for example.
If pastner had a team of Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, Barkley, Lebron, Penny, Malone etc, he would lead them to a 21-11 record and a second round tourney exit with half the team transferring.

True. Georgia Tech on the way to 11-16 if they lose today to Va Tech (losing now), then play at Virginia and at Clemson, so could easily be 11-18.

Any Josh fluffers left besides the Canadian? Amazing how quiet they have become. Even rue the day guy doesn't seem to rue anymore.

You and the tiny group of sheeple need to get your facts straight. After 2015 it was time for Pastner to go. I'm just pointing out that Pastner was much better than Tubby when he was here, something your sad little group can't seem to grasp.

(02-17-2018 12:23 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 12:17 PM)Tigx Wrote:  

(02-17-2018 12:09 PM)450bench Wrote:  Joe was a talented player and Josh had no idea how to use that talent, which can be said of other players during his tenure here, like Tarik for example.
If pastner had a team of Magic, Bird, Jordan, Wilt, Barkley, Lebron, Penny, Malone etc, he would lead them to a 21-11 record and a second round tourney exit with half the team transferring.

True. Georgia Tech on the way to 11-16 if they lose today to Va Tech (losing now), then play at Virginia and at Clemson, so could easily be 11-18.

Any Josh fluffers left besides the Canadian? Amazing how quiet they have become. Even rue the day guy doesn't seem to rue anymore.

You and the tiny group of sheeple need to get your facts straight. After 2015 it was time for Pastner to go.

Your wonder boy now down by 9 to Va Tech at home. Taken his poster off your bedroom ceiling in your mom's basement yet?

Back on ignore.