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The other day I just happened to be listening to YouTube on my phone with earbuds as I was in a rather noisy environment. I never use earbuds. I stumbled upon a recap of the Shocker Temple game produced by Goshockers.com and Mike Kennedy (our game announcer). What happened next filled me with absolute joy.

I have never heard the unreal sonic force, when Koch Arena gets lit, reproduced in any fashion, on any device, in my lifetime. Yes, plenty of people around the country know our place gets loud, but they don't really know what "loud" is unless they've experienced it in person. For the first time in my life, I now have a way to share the meaning of "loud" with someone that hasn't been to the Roundhouse and feel confident that what they are hearing is a very close approximation of what it sounds like in person.

Now, you aren't going to feel your chest thumping or that eerie sensation you get in Koch when the ground (concrete) feels like it's shaking and your feet get "light", but the strange high pitched shriek along with weird medium and low tones can now be heard below. It's very different from normal loud cheers which are included in the highlight video. Those "normal" cheers are ear-splitting for sure, but the "Koch Arena Roar" is a completely different beast and was what prompted a staff member of the Florida State team to proclaim, that Koch Arena was louder than Duke.

Make sure you use high quality earbuds and have them jammed just about as deep into your ear holes as they can go. You have to get the lower tones to come across to hear the roar effect. It's almost like what you would imagine a mythical Spartan battle cry would sound like or some Armageddon scenario. The sound is borderline supernatural.

I have marked most of the times the "Koch Arena Roar" is present just to make sure those that try to experience the sound are indeed hearing it. If all the roars sound the same you either need better buds, your ears are shot, or you're just not worthy.

Listen from the beginning of the video and the difference between the loud cheers and the roars will be readily apparent. Here are the points that roar:

:36
:42
1:24
1:40
1:49
2:00
2:13





If you're hearing the good stuff you won't be able to keep from smiling. It's that awesome and spooky.


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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
Orlando Predators games back at the old Arena were much louder than that.
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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
I just listened to the video again through my laptop and nothing. It is imperative, if you want to experience "The Thrill", to jam a set of high quality earbuds deep within your canals. The volume doesn't have to be that loud, you just need them deep to pick up the subtle wavelengths, that before I discovered this, were impossible to capture unless you were at one of those games.

I wonder if this highlight video was remastered to bring out the true sound from that game or if deeply implanted earbuds will work on other videos of the crowd as well. I'll have to experiment. I'm still pinching myself that I have a "copy" of the Koch Arena Roar that I can listen to any time now. Koch Arena can make a jet engine sound like a Honda.


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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
Can you get some cell phone video? I think that might capture the raw sound better.
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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
Temple coach says Wichita State crowd gave his team 'no shot at hearing anything'

Quote:With the home team’s lead up to five with 17 seconds left, the noise from the crowd at Koch Arena reached a deafening level.

Temple coach Fran Dunphy screamed out the set he wanted his team to run, but knew the try was futile with a sellout crowd of 10,506 roaring in unison.

“We had no shot at hearing anything,” Dunphy said.

“The crowd was terrific here,” Dunphy said. “It’s a phenomenal environment. It’s the first time I’ve ever been here. Many people have talked about it and it’s a special place.”


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(02-18-2018 02:01 AM)thespiritof1976 Wrote:  Can you get some cell phone video? I think that might capture the raw sound better.

There really isn't a lot of video available online highlighting the crowd noise specifically because everybody has known for years that you can't duplicate the sound outside of the live setting. In fact, when you watch a game at Koch Arena on ESPN the crowd doesn't sound overpowering at all.

A conspiracy theory used to circulate amongst Shocker fans that they did it on purpose so as to minimize our building's reputation against some of ESPN's heavier promoted environments like ChicKUn Coop, Cameron Indoor, Gallagher-Iba, etc. Those arenas always sounded louder on television even though they aren't in person.

They may put a heavier filter on their mics when they come to Koch Arena. I have heard ESPN's studio do very coarse adjustments in mid-roar when the commentators get blown off the air. It's like you'll hear the crowd just overload the television and then it gets turned down really fast with the announcers saying something about how "this place is going wild" even though you barely hear the crowd any more.

I often hear Mike Kennedy's mic pop and then go offline for a little bit when we go wild. We're breaking equipment up in this mofo!


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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
I’ll try it on my Canz speakers. Those speakers can amplify the smallest of sounds.
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Mid-South Coliseum could get so loud that the sound became a physical thing - you could feel it. that was a great arena
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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
(02-18-2018 02:16 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Temple coach says Wichita State crowd gave his team 'no shot at hearing anything'

Quote:With the home team’s lead up to five with 17 seconds left, the noise from the crowd at Koch Arena reached a deafening level.

Temple coach Fran Dunphy screamed out the set he wanted his team to run, but knew the try was futile with a sellout crowd of 10,506 roaring in unison.

“We had no shot at hearing anything,” Dunphy said.

“The crowd was terrific here,” Dunphy said. “It’s a phenomenal environment. It’s the first time I’ve ever been here. Many people have talked about it and it’s a special place.”


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I saw a quote that Marshall thought the Koch crowd was the loudest he’d heard in his time there against Temple. Flattering!
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RE: This is what Koch Arena sounds like
Cool.

And this is what TDECU stadium sounds like. Sorta makes a basketball arena sound like one of those little handheld transistor radios. 02-13-banana


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(02-18-2018 11:51 AM)Coog Engineer Wrote:  Cool.

And this is what TDECU stadium sounds like. Sorta makes a basketball arena sound like one of those little handheld transistor radios. 02-13-banana


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An open air stadium can not make the same noise as a small dome. I’ve been to Arrowhead numerous times, it gets loud, but it’s a different kind of loud.
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(02-18-2018 10:02 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  Mid-South Coliseum could get so loud that the sound became a physical thing - you could feel it. that was a great arena

then:
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now:
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(02-18-2018 01:41 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The other day I just happened to be listening to YouTube on my phone with earbuds as I was in a rather noisy environment. I never use earbuds. I stumbled upon a recap of the Shocker Temple game produced by Goshockers.com and Mike Kennedy (our game announcer). What happened next filled me with absolute joy.

I have never heard the unreal sonic force, when Koch Arena gets lit, reproduced in any fashion, on any device, in my lifetime. Yes, plenty of people around the country know our place gets loud, but they don't really know what "loud" is unless they've experienced it in person. For the first time in my life, I now have a way to share the meaning of "loud" with someone that hasn't been to the Roundhouse and feel confident that what they are hearing is a very close approximation of what it sounds like in person.

Now, you aren't going to feel your chest thumping or that eerie sensation you get in Koch when the ground (concrete) feels like it's shaking and your feet get "light", but the strange high pitched shriek along with weird medium and low tones can now be heard below. It's very different from normal loud cheers which are included in the highlight video. Those "normal" cheers are ear-splitting for sure, but the "Koch Arena Roar" is a completely different beast and was what prompted a staff member of the Florida State team to proclaim, that Koch Arena was louder than Duke.

Make sure you use high quality earbuds and have them jammed just about as deep into your ear holes as they can go. You have to get the lower tones to come across to hear the roar effect. It's almost like what you would imagine a mythical Spartan battle cry would sound like or some Armageddon scenario. The sound is borderline supernatural.

I have marked most of the times the "Koch Arena Roar" is present just to make sure those that try to experience the sound are indeed hearing it. If all the roars sound the same you either need better buds, your ears are shot, or you're just not worthy.

Listen from the beginning of the video and the difference between the loud cheers and the roars will be readily apparent. Here are the points that roar:

:36
:42
1:24
1:40
1:49
2:00
2:13





If you're hearing the good stuff you won't be able to keep from smiling. It's that awesome and spooky.


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That's the first video from Koch I have found to actually concentrate on getting the crowd sound captured. Whoever put that together is to be complimented.
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(02-18-2018 10:21 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 02:16 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Temple coach says Wichita State crowd gave his team 'no shot at hearing anything'

Quote:With the home team’s lead up to five with 17 seconds left, the noise from the crowd at Koch Arena reached a deafening level.

Temple coach Fran Dunphy screamed out the set he wanted his team to run, but knew the try was futile with a sellout crowd of 10,506 roaring in unison.

“We had no shot at hearing anything,” Dunphy said.

“The crowd was terrific here,” Dunphy said. “It’s a phenomenal environment. It’s the first time I’ve ever been here. Many people have talked about it and it’s a special place.”


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I saw a quote that Marshall thought the Koch crowd was the loudest he’d heard in his time there against Temple. Flattering!

He said top 4 or 5 which would still be flattering. It was the perfect setup being down 14 at the half after suffering through near-perfect shooting (maybe a little weak perimeter defense on our part) and then coming back against a new conference foe. This was the 2nd largest comeback from a halftime deficit in 43 years. It required a superhuman effort to dig out of that hole and we were able to bring it. The game couldn't have had any wider emotional swings from period to period had it been scripted.

Koch Arena is always extremely loud. I think what separates the memorable games from the typical is the sustained loud periods. The loudest I've ever heard Koch Arena was an NIT game against FSU. That was the "louder than Duke game". Long sustained periods of "sound you can feel" all throughout your bones. That was a triple OT game.


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(02-18-2018 12:34 PM)Windiwu Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 01:41 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The other day I just happened to be listening to YouTube on my phone with earbuds as I was in a rather noisy environment. I never use earbuds. I stumbled upon a recap of the Shocker Temple game produced by Goshockers.com and Mike Kennedy (our game announcer). What happened next filled me with absolute joy.

I have never heard the unreal sonic force, when Koch Arena gets lit, reproduced in any fashion, on any device, in my lifetime. Yes, plenty of people around the country know our place gets loud, but they don't really know what "loud" is unless they've experienced it in person. For the first time in my life, I now have a way to share the meaning of "loud" with someone that hasn't been to the Roundhouse and feel confident that what they are hearing is a very close approximation of what it sounds like in person.

Now, you aren't going to feel your chest thumping or that eerie sensation you get in Koch when the ground (concrete) feels like it's shaking and your feet get "light", but the strange high pitched shriek along with weird medium and low tones can now be heard below. It's very different from normal loud cheers which are included in the highlight video. Those "normal" cheers are ear-splitting for sure, but the "Koch Arena Roar" is a completely different beast and was what prompted a staff member of the Florida State team to proclaim, that Koch Arena was louder than Duke.

Make sure you use high quality earbuds and have them jammed just about as deep into your ear holes as they can go. You have to get the lower tones to come across to hear the roar effect. It's almost like what you would imagine a mythical Spartan battle cry would sound like or some Armageddon scenario. The sound is borderline supernatural.

I have marked most of the times the "Koch Arena Roar" is present just to make sure those that try to experience the sound are indeed hearing it. If all the roars sound the same you either need better buds, your ears are shot, or you're just not worthy.

Listen from the beginning of the video and the difference between the loud cheers and the roars will be readily apparent. Here are the points that roar:

:36
:42
1:24
1:40
1:49
2:00
2:13





If you're hearing the good stuff you won't be able to keep from smiling. It's that awesome and spooky.


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That's the first video from Koch I have found to actually concentrate on getting the crowd sound captured. Whoever put that together is to be complimented.

Thanks for the confirmation. Many, many, many compliments to the sound/editing crew. Magic trapped in a YouTube bottle!


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(02-18-2018 10:02 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  Mid-South Coliseum could get so loud that the sound became a physical thing - you could feel it. that was a great arena

That's a good descriptor of loud and is where it just begins when Koch Arena goes off the hook. People literally describe the floor as shaking if you're sitting at the bottom. I think around 10k in a fairly tightly packed arena is the key for maximum noise. Our "Roundhouse" configuration, perhaps something about the roof construction, and some seriously passionate/knowledgeable basketball fans is the secret sauce. Oh... and a great team.

A detractor might say it's because Wichita fans are so bored they have nothing else to cheer for so they let it all out at Shocker games. I'll accept that as that would be my angle of attack if I were jealous... 07-coffee3


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(02-18-2018 12:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 10:02 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  Mid-South Coliseum could get so loud that the sound became a physical thing - you could feel it. that was a great arena

then:
[Image: coliseum-interior.jpg]

that looks like an early era (65-66) photo. the tell is the hockey boards are up for a south stars game. fun fact, the MSC has/had a refrigerated floor to keep ice down full time during hockey season. this photo is from the hey day 11,200 seating capacity era (there were always people getting in and standing it seemed)

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^ I thought it looked kinda odd (it came up when I googled 'Memphis Coliseum')
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(02-18-2018 12:12 PM)UofMemphis Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 10:02 AM)tigerjeb Wrote:  Mid-South Coliseum could get so loud that the sound became a physical thing - you could feel it. that was a great arena

then:
[Image: coliseum-interior.jpg]

now:
[Image: flyby_coliseumin04.jpg]

Mid-South was a madhouse for opponents. MSU has some dominant teams playing in that place. A huge home court advantage for the Tigers.
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(02-18-2018 12:55 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 10:21 AM)vick mike Wrote:  
(02-18-2018 02:16 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Temple coach says Wichita State crowd gave his team 'no shot at hearing anything'

Quote:With the home team’s lead up to five with 17 seconds left, the noise from the crowd at Koch Arena reached a deafening level.

Temple coach Fran Dunphy screamed out the set he wanted his team to run, but knew the try was futile with a sellout crowd of 10,506 roaring in unison.

“We had no shot at hearing anything,” Dunphy said.

“The crowd was terrific here,” Dunphy said. “It’s a phenomenal environment. It’s the first time I’ve ever been here. Many people have talked about it and it’s a special place.”


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I saw a quote that Marshall thought the Koch crowd was the loudest he’d heard in his time there against Temple. Flattering!

He said top 4 or 5 which would still be flattering. It was the perfect setup being down 14 at the half after suffering through near-perfect shooting (maybe a little weak perimeter defense on our part) and then coming back against a new conference foe. This was the 2nd largest comeback from a halftime deficit in 43 years. It required a superhuman effort to dig out of that hole and we were able to bring it. The game couldn't have had any wider emotional swings from period to period had it been scripted.

Koch Arena is always extremely loud. I think what separates the memorable games from the typical is the sustained loud periods. The loudest I've ever heard Koch Arena was an NIT game against FSU. That was the "louder than Duke game". Long sustained periods of "sound you can feel" all throughout your bones. That was a triple OT game.


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The loudest I ever heard the roundhouse was the Iowa game in 1981. The Shockers were down by 14 in the second half and the crowd literally seemed to will the Shockers to a 60-56 victory. Lute Olson, the Iowa coach at the time, was stunned at how loud the crowd was and how crazy the environment was. He said at the time that he had never seen anything like that.
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